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2018 NBA Offseason

Postby Brian » Tue May 15, 2018 11:44 pm

Draft lottery coming up here in a couple of minutes.

I have a feeling the Bulls are going to get the nightmare scenario and end up at 9.

I think this is the first lottery that i've watched since 2008, so there's that.
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Re: 2018 NBA Offseason

Postby Regular Show » Tue May 15, 2018 11:59 pm

Brian wrote:Draft lottery coming up here in a couple of minutes.

I have a feeling the Bulls are going to get the nightmare scenario and end up at 9.

I think this is the first lottery that i've watched since 2008, so there's that.


Oh man, I was going to make a post about that earlier! Totally forgot lol.

I really hope the Bulls move up (please let those stupid NBA conspiracies be true) in this draft lottery. If they don't get lucky we'll still get a good player, but we need great players to contend/convince FAs to come here.

Maybe lady luck will shine on us again.
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Re: 2018 NBA Offseason

Postby Regular Show » Wed May 16, 2018 12:15 am

Here we go...
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Re: 2018 NBA Offseason

Postby Derwood » Wed May 16, 2018 12:16 am

Jesus, drag this out longer ESPN
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Re: 2018 NBA Offseason

Postby Brian » Wed May 16, 2018 12:20 am

damn it
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Re: 2018 NBA Offseason

Postby Derwood » Wed May 16, 2018 12:20 am

Who is the guy repping the Cavs?
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Re: 2018 NBA Offseason

Postby Regular Show » Wed May 16, 2018 12:22 am

Damn it. The Bulls get the #7 pick. Great job tanking this past season idiots.
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Postby UMFan83 » Wed May 16, 2018 12:22 am

Wasted an entire season and the Bulls aren’t going to get a star in the draft. Guess we either get lucky in draft or FA or suck for a lot longer
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Re: 2018 NBA Offseason

Postby Derwood » Wed May 16, 2018 12:23 am

The system of rewarding the teams who suck the most is getting old
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Re: 2018 NBA Offseason

Postby Regular Show » Wed May 16, 2018 12:24 am

UMFan83 wrote:Wasted an entire season and the Bulls aren’t going to get a star in the draft. Guess we either get lucky in draft or FA or suck for a lot longer
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Re: 2018 NBA Offseason

Postby Brian » Wed May 16, 2018 12:25 am

what a double kick in the nuts, we "won" the tie breaker with the Kings, and the pick they moved back to gets into the top 3
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Re: 2018 NBA Offseason

Postby Andy » Wed May 16, 2018 12:27 am

Brian wrote:what a double kick in the nuts, we "won" the tie breaker with the Kings, and the pick they moved back to gets into the top 3

#2, to be specific. If they get Doncic, I'm going to be pissed.
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Postby soccer10k » Wed May 16, 2018 1:13 am

Andy wrote:
Brian wrote:what a double kick in the nuts, we "won" the tie breaker with the Kings, and the pick they moved back to gets into the top 3

#2, to be specific. If they get Doncic, I'm going to be pissed.


I bet they take either Ayton or Bagley. They already have Fox and are probably too stupid to think about playing both together. Plus they have Bogdanovic and Hield, aka Steph Curry 2.0.
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Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Wed May 16, 2018 1:53 am

At first I thought that was a riff on the speech Thanos’s right hand man made at the start of Infinity War, but nope, just weird
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Postby Old Style » Wed May 16, 2018 5:02 pm


Whoa
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Re: 2018 NBA Offseason

Postby Brian » Wed May 16, 2018 8:59 pm

Am I completely reading the new lottery rules wrong, or is it really not going to curb tanking at all? If you aren't a playoff team you are still going to want to lose as many games as possible.
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Re: 2018 NBA Offseason

Postby Cubswin11 » Wed May 16, 2018 9:13 pm

Brian wrote:Am I completely reading the new lottery rules wrong, or is it really not going to curb tanking at all? If you aren't a playoff team you are still going to want to lose as many games as possible.

It’s not going to stop “tanking” because for about 1/3rd of the league it’s pretty hard to be remotely competitive. The talent level either isn’t there or their coaching/FO sucks.

But yeah there’s still some incentive to finish the worst, iirc, just don’t get as heavy odds for the 1 pick to do it.


Also I’m going on the record that this upcoming draft mostly sucks and the best guys are role players at best. There isn’t a single franchise player in it and no perennial all stars.
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Re: 2018 NBA Offseason

Postby Derwood » Wed May 16, 2018 9:25 pm

I'd say that it promotes tanking since now the worst 3 teams all have the same chances of getting the #1 pick, so it makes tanking "easier".

Stop rewarding bad teams with high picks and tanking goes away
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Postby Cubswin11 » Wed May 16, 2018 9:31 pm

Derwood wrote:I'd say that it promotes tanking since now the worst 3 teams all have the same chances of getting the #1 pick, so it makes tanking "easier".

Stop rewarding bad teams with high picks and tanking goes away

“Tanking” might go away but there’s always going to be horsefeathers teams in the NBA. You need stars to win. Idk what the Bulls, Mavs, Magic, Kings, etc all could’ve done this year to be good.
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Postby TBS Playoffs Insider » Wed May 16, 2018 9:52 pm

when im commish:
1.)Teams can sign maxed out FAs on a sliding scale, so ok you have steph curry for $30m, the next max you can offer is $22.5m, after that $15m, or something like that.

2.) There's no draft, all college players who lose eligibility or declare become FAs.

3.) There is a lottery that determines which teams (of those who missed the playoffs or have traded into lottery position) have higher budgets to sign "rookies." This way Sacramento can offer Ben Simmons 5/150 if they want, but the Warriors can only offer him 5/25 or something like that.

There is certainly no downside to this or way to rig the system.
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Re: 2018 NBA Offseason

Postby Derwood » Wed May 16, 2018 10:15 pm

Reward the teams that tried but barely missed the playoffs. Three teams with the best records (but missed the playoffs) get highest chance for #1 pick, but draft is still in reverse order of finish.
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Re: 2018 NBA Offseason

Postby Cubswin11 » Wed May 16, 2018 10:20 pm

Derwood wrote:Reward the teams that tried but barely missed the playoffs. Three teams with the best records (but missed the playoffs) get highest chance for #1 pick, but draft is still in reverse order of finish.

How do u define “tried?” A team like Memphis was “trying” this year and they paid a to keep guys but then Conley and Gasol got hurt and they finished with a bottom ~3 record.
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Re: 2018 NBA Offseason

Postby Cubswin11 » Wed May 16, 2018 10:22 pm

TBS Playoffs Insider wrote:when im commish:
1.)Teams can sign maxed out FAs on a sliding scale, so ok you have steph curry for $30m, the next max you can offer is $22.5m, after that $15m, or something like that.

2.) There's no draft, all college players who lose eligibility or declare become FAs.

3.) There is a lottery that determines which teams (of those who missed the playoffs or have traded into lottery position) have higher budgets to sign "rookies." This way Sacramento can offer Ben Simmons 5/150 if they want, but the Warriors can only offer him 5/25 or something like that.

There is certainly no downside to this or way to rig the system.

I don’t mind this idea. It would make “super teams” easier to put together if guys are willing to take less and probably keeps smaller markets down short of way overpaying for dudes (would like John Wall rather be the highest paid guy in Minnesota for example vs Durant’s 2nd or 3rd guy and taking the appropriate pay cut?). But a few super teams is good for business, imo, instead of each team only having one all-star level guy.
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Re: 2018 NBA Offseason

Postby davell » Wed May 16, 2018 10:54 pm

Salaries or teams being over the cap doesn't bother me at all, with the NBA. In a perfect world, you don't have guys making super teams, but that's just how it is at this point. It sucks you go into a season knowing there's only 2-3 teams that have a shot at winning it all. But, I think that's just how it's going to be unfortunately.

My changes would be to switch to an even schedule, no more Eastern and Western Conferences. 4 Divisions, which teams rotate in and out of. A drawing for playoff matchups and which divisions play which each year first, takes the place of the draft lotto. Because I'd go to a 30 year Wheel, in which every team gets to know EXACTLY where they pick in each draft for that entire period of time.
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