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Re: National Fascism League

Postby TBS Playoffs Insider » Thu May 24, 2018 2:05 pm

Banedon wrote:


I have deeply covered two of those cases. Pretty weird.
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Re: National Fascism League

Postby javy knows my name » Thu May 24, 2018 2:09 pm

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Re: National Fascism League

Postby mul21 » Fri May 25, 2018 11:40 am

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Brian wrote:respect to the Jets



But did the Jets vote to implement the rule?


He did vote for it, so this is a weird mixed message.


The story that there wasn’t an actual vote and just basically a straw poll taken makes this a little more interesting. I hope the NFLPA takes it to court as something that should have been collectively bargained.
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Re: National Fascism League

Postby Derwood » Fri May 25, 2018 11:50 am

Trey Wingo, who usually has the most milquetoast, tepid takes on the radio, really laid into the NFL about this. Completely called out the league using patriotism to turn a buck, called out Goodell's buddy buddy relationship with Trump, and said that with Trump and Pence chiming in about sports decisions, that no one can tell athletes to "shut up and stick to sports" anymore.
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Re: National Fascism League

Postby Brian707 » Fri May 25, 2018 2:25 pm

Well said Steve Kerr

Steve Kerr wrote:They're just playing off their fan base, and they're just basically trying to use the anthem as fake patriotism, nationalism, scaring people. It's idiotic, but that's how the NFL has handled their business


Steve Kerr wrote:I'm proud to be in a league that understands patriotism in America is about free speech, It's about peacefully protesting. I think our leaders in the NBA understand that when an NFL player is kneeling, they were kneeling to protest police brutality, to protest racial inequality. They're weren't disrespecting the flag or the military, but our president decided to make it about that and the NFL followed suit and pandered to their fan base by creating this hysteria.

It's kind of what's wrong with our country. People in high places are trying to divide us, divide loyalties, make this about the flag, as if the flag is something other than what it really is. It's a representation of what we're about, which is diversity, peaceful protest, the abilities, the right to free speech. So, it's really ironic, actually, what the NFL is doing
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Re: National Fascism League

Postby minnesotacubsfan » Fri May 25, 2018 2:49 pm

Its not ironic Steve

Its horsefeathering moronic
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Re: National Fascism League

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Fri May 25, 2018 4:42 pm

Doesnt the NBA require their players to stand during the anthem?
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Re: National Fascism League

Postby Andy » Fri May 25, 2018 5:49 pm

WrigleyField 22 wrote:Doesnt the NBA require their players to stand during the anthem?

Yes, but conventional wisdom is that since the NBA tolerates and even encourages its players to speak out on topics that mean something to them, they're happier to play ball on that topic.

And in any case I think that's an old rule, made before this stuff blew up, that could be changed.
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Re: National Fascism League

Postby Bertz » Fri May 25, 2018 5:53 pm

Andy wrote:
WrigleyField 22 wrote:Doesnt the NBA require their players to stand during the anthem?

Yes, but conventional wisdom is that since the NBA tolerates and even encourages its players to speak out on topics that mean something to them, they're happier to play ball on that topic.

And in any case I think that's an old rule, made before this stuff blew up, that could be changed.


Also, it was collectively bargained rather than implemented unilaterally.
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Re: National Fascism League

Postby Brian707 » Fri May 25, 2018 6:06 pm

Also the NBA fanbase isn't full of snowflake Trumpsters who get offended that minorities aren't standing for the Anthem.
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Postby SouthSideRyan » Fri May 25, 2018 8:36 pm

Brian707 wrote:Also the NBA fanbase isn't full of snowflake Trumpsters who get offended that minorities aren't standing for the Anthem.


It was enacted because a Muslim wouldn't though.
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Re: National Fascism League

Postby ConstableRabbit » Fri May 25, 2018 8:49 pm

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Brian707 wrote:Also the NBA fanbase isn't full of snowflake Trumpsters who get offended that minorities aren't standing for the Anthem.


It was enacted because a Muslim wouldn't though.

A black man from Mississippi who converted to Islam, at that. Ultimately, he and the league worked out a compromise and he ended up playing for several more years. I can't imagine that would be the outcome today.
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Re: National Fascism League

Postby Brian » Fri May 25, 2018 9:10 pm

I forgot all about that. In grade school the 4th, 5th & 6th graders would have a indoor volleyball tournament where the winning team would face the teachers. The year my team won, I did this before serving every time... I was really cool.

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Re: National Fascism League

Postby rawaction » Fri May 25, 2018 10:36 pm

Brian707 wrote:Also the NBA fanbase isn't full of snowflake Trumpsters who get offended that minorities aren't standing for the Anthem.


Those people all left as NBA fans when Allen Iverson was the face of the league and "thugs" were ruining the game. They don't pay attention to basketball at all.
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Re: National Fascism League

Postby ConstableRabbit » Sat May 26, 2018 3:18 am

rawaction wrote:
Brian707 wrote:Also the NBA fanbase isn't full of snowflake Trumpsters who get offended that minorities aren't standing for the Anthem.


Those people all left as NBA fans when Allen Iverson was the face of the league and "thugs" were ruining the game. They don't pay attention to basketball at all.

Kinda. Didn’t AI’s throwback jerseys on the bench lead to the mandate to wear a suit when injured?
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Re: National Fascism League

Postby TomtheBombadil » Mon May 28, 2018 9:47 pm

Whoa, between lucking into Darnold and Chris Johnson's statement on this topic the Jets are finally moving up. I'm pretty torn on this since the NFL blooooows and I haven't actually watched more than a couple minutes of a game in 3+ years.
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Re: National Fascism League

Postby jersey cubs fan » Tue May 29, 2018 6:35 pm

I will be disappointed if this gets no traction

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Postby TBS Playoffs Insider » Tue May 29, 2018 6:42 pm

a little high concept but i like it
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Re: National Fascism League

Postby jersey cubs fan » Tue May 29, 2018 6:44 pm

TBS Playoffs Insider wrote:a little high concept but i like it

Well see the coach of the Seahawks, Pete Carroll, is famously a 9/11 conspir, ah horsefeathers it.
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Re: National Fascism League

Postby UK » Thu May 31, 2018 5:54 am

https://sports.yahoo.com/cant-win-one-president-trump-told-jerry-jones-private-player-protests-182554834.html


The NFL can’t win.

That was the message that President Donald Trump delivered to Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones in a private telephone conversation between the two men in September of 2017 – an exchange that took place in the midst of a mushrooming player protest controversy for the league. Jones revealed Trump’s warning in an April deposition in the collusion complaint brought against the NFL by Colin Kaepernick, according to a report by the Wall Street Journal. The contents of that deposition, which have been confirmed to Yahoo Sports by a source familiar with the proceedings, included revelations about Jones’ conversation with Trump regarding political attacks against the league for failing to quell player protests during the national anthem.

According to the Wall Street Journal story and an additional confirming source, Trump instructed Jones to relay a simple message to other power brokers in the league:

“Tell everybody, you can’t win this one,” Jones recalled Trump saying, according to a deposition transcript. “This one lifts me.”
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Re: National Fascism League

Postby Sammy Sofa » Thu May 31, 2018 11:06 am

So, ostensibly, doesn't that really open the door to players being able to take this up as a true First Amendment issue?
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Re: National Fascism League

Postby javy knows my name » Thu May 31, 2018 1:18 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:So, ostensibly, doesn't that really open the door to players being able to take this up as a true First Amendment issue?


Would think that this first moves the collusion case forward and then that would be the next domino to fall.

horsefeathers, this is the most interesting the NFL has been in years
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