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Re: 2018/19 Blackhawks march to the lottery

Postby jersey cubs fan » Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:03 pm

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2018/19 Blackhawks march to the lottery

Postby minnesotacubsfan » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:17 pm

I mean, we DID win 3 stanleys and just got our goalie back. How is it not possible with a young star or two of infusion that we could be good?

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Re: 2018/19 Blackhawks march to the lottery

Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:21 pm

They look pretty mediocre to me, but who knows. Better than last year.
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Re: 2018/19 Blackhawks march to the lottery

Postby UMFan83 » Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:08 pm

minnesotacubsfan wrote:I mean, we DID win 3 stanleys and just got our goalie back. How is it not possible with a young star or two of infusion that we could be good?

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We don't really have depth, particularly defensively. It's the same story as the last decade, we are relying on Keith and Seabrook to log heavy minutes and they just arent the same players as before. Also while we've come out scoring quite a bit I don't see where consistent scoring is coming from outside of Debrincat, Kane and Toews. We do have some money to spend for once but I am pretty sure they intend to use a chunk of it to extend Debrincat.

They could be decent and make the playoffs, but legit good? I see too many holes.
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Re: 2018/19 Blackhawks march to the lottery

Postby bcl412 » Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:31 am

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Re: 2018/19 Blackhawks march to the lottery

Postby Butterscup » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:40 pm

i had fun while it lasted!
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Postby Banedon » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:18 pm

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Postby Banedon » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:20 pm

The Blackhawks have also fired assistant coaches Kevin Dineen and Ulf Samuelsson. Barry Smith was named as an assistant coach on Colliton’s staff.The rest of the Blackhawks coaching staff will remain with the team.
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Re: 2018/19 Blackhawks march to the lottery

Postby jersey cubs fan » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:29 pm

I don't get it
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Re: 2018/19 Blackhawks march to the lottery

Postby Old Style » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:45 pm

I'm sorry but this is an asinine move IMO.
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Re: 2018/19 Blackhawks march to the lottery

Postby squally1313 » Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:01 pm

It's hard to talk about coaching without sounding too much like a meatball sports fan, but...I'm fine with it. This team has all the motivation/veteran leadership they need sitting in the locker room already. What they need is someone to teach these fringe-y young players how to develop into reliable NHL players. At this point in Q's career, I can't really see that being up his alley, both in terms of his skill set and his interest level.

Whether it actually accomplishes anything in the short term...probably not. The team stinks (and some of that/a lot of that falls on Bowman, who made the decision today). But I guess it's worth a shot. I'm willing to bet this came with the blessing, either implicit or explicit, of Toews, Keith, etc.
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Re: 2018/19 Blackhawks march to the lottery

Postby Butterscup » Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:10 pm

Dumb, wrong, bad decision. Bowman's trying to save his ass for failing to manage the salary cap and roster and Q takes the hit for it. What a shame.
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Re: 2018/19 Blackhawks march to the lottery

Postby squally1313 » Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:12 pm

You can my word vomit above, but this sums up my opinion a lot better:

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Re: 2018/19 Blackhawks march to the lottery

Postby UMFan83 » Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:12 pm

I would have fired Bowman before Q, but I'm not super upset about this move. I would have been fine if they kept him too. Sometimes a new voice is a good thing, though I'm not sure any one coach is going to turn the talent on this roster into a playoff team.
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Re: 2018/19 Blackhawks march to the lottery

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Re: 2018/19 Blackhawks march to the lottery

Postby Banedon » Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:50 pm

They should've just done this in the offseason if it's what they wanted to do. Doing it now is pretty gross.

I'm not that upset with the coaching change....just with how it was done.
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Re: 2018/19 Blackhawks march to the lottery

Postby Brian707 » Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:19 pm

Banedon wrote:They should've just done this in the offseason if it's what they wanted to do. Doing it now is pretty gross.

I'm not that upset with the coaching change....just with how it was done.



Bowman was just waiting for the first losing streak. I agree, why didn't they do it last April?

New coach is 33. 18 months younger than Duncan Keith
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Re: 2018/19 Blackhawks march to the lottery

Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:12 pm

They've got 3.5 more years of $33m in cap hits to players who are in total not close to worth $33m in cap hits.

They can shuffle all the chairs around they want, it's over.
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Re: 2018/19 Blackhawks march to the lottery

Postby squally1313 » Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:17 pm

Yeah you can point out plenty of flaws for both Q and Bowman, especially over the last couple years, but I think the reality is this is pretty much an inevitably for a cap league dynasty team. You get as much success as you can out of your group of players, and then you are left with bloated contracts with money being paid for past performance. We got three of them, not going to complain about the downside of the slope.
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Re: 2018/19 Blackhawks march to the lottery

Postby minnesotacubsfan » Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:19 pm

squally1313 wrote:Yeah you can point out plenty of flaws for both Q and Bowman, especially over the last couple years, but I think the reality is this is pretty much an inevitably for a cap league dynasty team. You get as much success as you can out of your group of players, and then you are left with bloated contracts with money being paid for past performance. We got three of them, not going to complain about the downside of the slope.


this is pretty much where I'm at, but I keep pining for one last run out of the group.
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Re: 2018/19 Blackhawks march to the lottery

Postby Brian707 » Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:20 pm

minnesotacubsfan wrote:
squally1313 wrote:Yeah you can point out plenty of flaws for both Q and Bowman, especially over the last couple years, but I think the reality is this is pretty much an inevitably for a cap league dynasty team. You get as much success as you can out of your group of players, and then you are left with bloated contracts with money being paid for past performance. We got three of them, not going to complain about the downside of the slope.


this is pretty much where I'm at, but I keep pining for one last run out of the group.


Maybe 2021.
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Re: 2018/19 Blackhawks march to the lottery

Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:21 pm

I don't think it was 100% unavoidable. There's a world out there where someone had the nerve not to sign Seabrook to a long extension. And as good as Crawford is, there's a reason we got so much mileage out of bad goalies when we were good.

But it was always going to be a very narrow path.
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