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NFL Week 4

Postby jersey cubs fan » Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:05 pm

NFL Lines For Week 4 - NFL Football Line Week Four
NFL Line 9/26 - 9/30, 2019
Date & Time Favorite Line Underdog Total
9/26 8:20 ET At Green Bay -4.5 Philadelphia 45.5
9/29 1:00 ET At Houston -4.5 Carolina 46.5
9/29 1:00 ET At Baltimore -7 Cleveland 45.5
9/29 1:00 ET At NY Giants -3 Washington 49
9/29 1:00 ET LA Chargers -16 At Miami 44
9/29 1:00 ET At Indianapolis -7 Oakland 45
9/29 1:00 ET Kansas City -6.5 At Detroit 54
9/29 1:00 ET New England -7 At Buffalo 42.5
9/29 1:00 ET At Atlanta -4 Tennessee 45
9/29 4:05 ET At LA Rams -10 Tampa Bay 50
9/29 4:05 ET Seattle -5 At Arizona 48
9/29 4:25 ET At Chicago -2.5 Minnesota 38
9/29 4:25 ET At Denver -3 Jacksonville 39
9/29 8:20 ET Dallas -2.5 At New Orleans 47

Monday Night Football Line
9/30 8:15 ET At Pittsburgh -4 Cincinnati 43.5

The bye weeks have begun, with the Jets and 49ers taking a break. New England is back to being just a 7 point favorite. There are no 20 point spreads after 2 last week, but the Chargers are 16 point favorites over the lowly Dolphins.
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Postby SouthSideRyan » Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:08 pm

Chiefs, Rams, Saints
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:37 pm

you figure out which game is which

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the maps look like that every weekend
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Postby biittner77 » Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:35 pm

Why are the Bears -2.5 at home? Seems like a sucker line. As bad as the Dolphins are, +16 at home seems tempting.
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Postby Brian707 » Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:47 pm

biittner77 wrote:Why are the Bears -2.5 at home? Seems like a sucker line. As bad as the Dolphins are, +16 at home seems tempting.



It opened at -3, I would surmise a lot of early money on Minnesota.

I wouldn't bet any games involving the Dolphins
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Postby SouthSideRyan » Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:02 pm

I would bet the Chargers if I had to. If the Dolphins don't beat the Redskins at home, I think they go 0-16.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:07 pm

SouthSideRyan wrote:I would bet the Chargers if I had to. If the Dolphins don't beat the Redskins at home, I think they go 0-16.

Do they get the Jets at all without Darnold? That would be my only other guess as a chance for them to win.
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SouthSideRyan wrote:I would bet the Chargers if I had to. If the Dolphins don't beat the Redskins at home, I think they go 0-16.

Do they get the Jets at all without Darnold? That would be my only other guess as a chance for them to win.


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Cubswin11 wrote:
SouthSideRyan wrote:I would bet the Chargers if I had to. If the Dolphins don't beat the Redskins at home, I think they go 0-16.

Do they get the Jets at all without Darnold? That would be my only other guess as a chance for them to win.


Nah, they host them 11/3, on the road 12/8. I guess they could beat the Bengals in game 15, depending on which team needs the loss more.
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Postby Old Style » Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:51 am

Puck the Fackers!
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Postby BigbadB » Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:50 pm

Jordan Howard sure looked good last night. Caught a screen pass for a TD. Ran well. Not sure how his accomplishments offensively don't fit Nagy's system. You are welcome, Philadelphia.
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Postby Chocolate Milk » Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:00 pm

BigbadB wrote:Jordan Howard sure looked good last night. Caught a screen pass for a TD. Ran well. Not sure how his accomplishments offensively don't fit Nagy's system. You are welcome, Philadelphia.

He had one good season and was probably the worst 'feature' running back in the league last year (maybe Carlos Hyde was worse). Glad to see he had one good game with the Eagles, though.

Tough one for the Packers last night when you consider the injuries. Adams is so key for their offense.
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Postby WrigleyField 22 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:38 pm

Chocolate Milk wrote:
BigbadB wrote:Jordan Howard sure looked good last night. Caught a screen pass for a TD. Ran well. Not sure how his accomplishments offensively don't fit Nagy's system. You are welcome, Philadelphia.

He had one good season and was probably the worst 'feature' running back in the league last year (maybe Carlos Hyde was worse). Glad to see he had one good game with the Eagles, though.

Tough one for the Packers last night when you consider the injuries. Adams is so key for their offense.

Hey he's still probably better than Mike Davis which would be about the difference of 1 or 2 rounds in the draft this year (the pick for Howard at 5 or 6 vs a comp 4 for Amos), and you'd still maybe get comp for just letting him walk in FA.
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BigbadB wrote:Jordan Howard sure looked good last night. Caught a screen pass for a TD. Ran well. Not sure how his accomplishments offensively don't fit Nagy's system. You are welcome, Philadelphia.

He had one good season and was probably the worst 'feature' running back in the league last year (maybe Carlos Hyde was worse). Glad to see he had one good game with the Eagles, though.

Tough one for the Packers last night when you consider the injuries. Adams is so key for their offense.

Hey he's still probably better than Mike Davis which would be about the difference of 1 or 2 rounds in the draft this year (the pick for Howard at 5 or 6 vs a comp 4 for Amos), and you'd still maybe get comp for just letting him walk in FA.


I never liked losing Howard, but Monty has lessened that blow. Now if we can dump Davis, I'm not a fan
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Postby BigbadB » Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:13 pm

Chocolate Milk wrote:
BigbadB wrote:Jordan Howard sure looked good last night. Caught a screen pass for a TD. Ran well. Not sure how his accomplishments offensively don't fit Nagy's system. You are welcome, Philadelphia.

He had one good season and was probably the worst 'feature' running back in the league last year (maybe Carlos Hyde was worse). Glad to see he had one good game with the Eagles, though.

Tough one for the Packers last night when you consider the injuries. Adams is so key for their offense.


I felt that Howard's usage by Nagy's playbook is why Howard was rated so poorly. Howard in the game= running play or pass to potentially anyone not named Jordan Howard. Cohen in the game=more likely a pass play. Howard was open on check downs repeatedly and ignored as an option time and again. Screen plays were just not an option when Howard was in the game, allowing the safeties to key on the run between the tackles. That predictability lessened the strength of the running game and eliminated a potential backfield threat in the passing game.
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Re: NFL Week 4

Postby Derwood » Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:20 pm

The Patriots have a giant horseshoe up their collective asses.
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Postby Andy » Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:35 pm

Derwood wrote:The Patriots have a giant horseshoe up their collective asses.

In other news the sun came up in the East, et al
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Postby Andy » Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:36 pm

Carolina went 0-2 at home with Cam Newton, has now gone 2-0 on the road with Kyle Allen. This all makes perfect sense.
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Postby NOLA » Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:21 am

The Saints defense is absolutely carrying them right now.
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Re: NFL Week 4

Postby Derwood » Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:24 am

Patriots have a +121 point differential

49ers are second best with +42
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Postby PackLandVA » Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:28 am

Derwood wrote:Patriots have a +121 point differential


On the surface, this may seem impressive. But in four of their wins, their point differential is +115. The combined
record of those 4 opponents: 1-17. And the point differential of those four teams is -242.

The one game they played against a "decent team, Buffalo (4-1), they won by less than a TD.

So really not that impressive.


The Pats are a very good team and excellent franchise, but they benefit every season that B&B have been there by playing 6 games against perrenial dregs, and 2 games against third and fourth place teams in the AFC and NFC. Just the 6 games in their own division almost assure them of a playoff spot at worst, and HFA. Is it any wonder they've got so many SB appearances?
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Postby minnesotacubsfan » Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:37 pm

PackLandVA wrote:
Derwood wrote:Patriots have a +121 point differential


On the surface, this may seem impressive. But in four of their wins, their point differential is +115. The combined
record of those 4 opponents: 1-17. And the point differential of those four teams is -242.

The one game they played against a "decent team, Buffalo (4-1), they won by less than a TD.

So really not that impressive.


The Pats are a very good team and excellent franchise, but they benefit every season that B&B have been there by playing 6 games against perrenial dregs, and 2 games against third and fourth place teams in the AFC and NFC. Just the 6 games in their own division almost assure them of a playoff spot at worst, and HFA. Is it any wonder they've got so many SB appearances?


I wish we could play 4 games against the Dolphins and the Jets every year
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