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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby gflore34 » Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:44 pm

Graham smacks of desperation, still, it's an upgrade at TE. With Quinn Pace is admitting Floyd was a bust and needs to be dumped, have to think he'll be more impactful than Floyd ever was, wouldn't take much.
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Postby David » Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:01 pm

gflore34 wrote:Graham smacks of desperation, still, it's an upgrade at TE. With Quinn Pace is admitting Floyd was a bust and needs to be dumped, have to think he'll be more impactful than Floyd ever was, wouldn't take much.


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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby Derwood » Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:08 pm

NFL GM's are treating this off-season like Madden '20
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby Brian707 » Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:28 pm

Floyd released
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby ChiCubsFan » Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:30 pm

Solid move. Cap # for Quinn shouldn’t be too much more than Floyd.
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby scarey » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:16 am

Nice move for the D-Line but...
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:37 am

Lots of Dalton, Foles, Newton talk, but I'm not really crazy about trading assets for those guys. Definitely not at their salaries, any of those guys need to be restructured.

And the FA market dried up pretty quick. Really want nothing to do with Jameis Winston, who is the best FA QB left.

This is the crazy part of me talking, but I say let's just sign Blake Bortles and draft a QB with one of the first three picks. Yea he's been a bad QB, but I'm definitely at the point where I say let's just throw a few cheap bodies at that and focus whatever cap they have left on the other holes. Maybe he picked up a few things from McVay that will aid him in his next shot, and it's not like he ever lacked physical tools.

Still need a G, CB, S and a few depth spots (2 S, 1-2 ILB, OL, RB). Obviously you'll fill a couple depth spots in the draft. But they have a chance at having a dominant D again, perhaps even better than the 2018 version. Throw some extra supporting pieces to help. Whatever below average QB they run out there.
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:28 am

This is basically what I expected from this offseason, which is also what I feared.

Pace is gonna triple-down on veterans, trade assets for a QB, and pray that we stay healthy enough for a 10-7 season to save his job. (Are we playing 17 games now? I think I heard that).
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby jumbo » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:38 am

WrigleyField 22 wrote:Lots of Dalton, Foles, Newton talk, but I'm not really crazy about trading assets for those guys. Definitely not at their salaries, any of those guys need to be restructured.

And the FA market dried up pretty quick. Really want nothing to do with Jameis Winston, who is the best FA QB left.

This is the crazy part of me talking, but I say let's just sign Blake Bortles and draft a QB with one of the first three picks. Yea he's been a bad QB, but I'm definitely at the point where I say let's just throw a few cheap bodies at that and focus whatever cap they have left on the other holes. Maybe he picked up a few things from McVay that will aid him in his next shot, and it's not like he ever lacked physical tools.

Still need a G, CB, S and a few depth spots (2 S, 1-2 ILB, OL, RB). Obviously you'll fill a couple depth spots in the draft. But they have a chance at having a dominant D again, perhaps even better than the 2018 version. Throw some extra supporting pieces to help. Whatever below average QB they run out there.


I agree that trading for Dalton/Foles/Newton is not a great idea. I'd rather sign a washed up "pray for Tannehill" type or just a half-competent backup that's younger than Chase AND keep my eye on the draft for a QB to fall. They're essentially going the game manager route at QB in terms of roster construction. What are the odds a QB prospect is available in the 2nd? I'd rather use those picks to fill other holes, but you can't squander a defense with this much talent by holding a horsefeathers QB like Mitch or signing the Jimmy Graham of QBs (Newton/Dalton/etc.)
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby jersey cubs fan » Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:14 pm

Hairyducked Idiot wrote:This is basically what I expected from this offseason, which is also what I feared.

Pace is gonna triple-down on veterans, trade assets for a QB, and pray that we stay healthy enough for a 10-7 season to save his job. (Are we playing 17 games now? I think I heard that).

17 games in 2021 likely. But 10-6 and a first round playoff loss does seem to be a upside potential
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby gflore34 » Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:05 pm

What about Carr? He's a definite upgrade, the others seem like lateral moves, Mitch will give you whatever they will.
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Postby David » Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:24 pm

gflore34 wrote:What about Carr? He's a definite upgrade, the others seem like lateral moves, Mitch will give you whatever they will.


not sure there's anyone left that oakland would want over carr at this point, so i doubt they'll be trading him anymore.
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Postby Old Style » Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:31 pm

David wrote:
gflore34 wrote:What about Carr? He's a definite upgrade, the others seem like lateral moves, Mitch will give you whatever they will.


not sure there's anyone left that oakland would want over carr at this point, so i doubt they'll be trading him anymore.

They signed Mariota.
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby David » Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:38 pm

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gflore34 wrote:What about Carr? He's a definite upgrade, the others seem like lateral moves, Mitch will give you whatever they will.


not sure there's anyone left that oakland would want over carr at this point, so i doubt they'll be trading him anymore.

They signed Mariota.


As a backup. He's clearly not an upgrade over Carr.
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby BigbadB » Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:45 pm

I'd be okay with Bortles. But, I still think they can hold out and only give up a 4th for one of Newton, Foles or Dalton. Winston still needs a job somewhere and the teams in need of a veteran are also drying up. They all have starter salaries and those teams will want to be rid of them as much as the Bears need to trade for one. That leaves both 2nd rounders and a 4th to improve the holes in the draft.

Trubisky doesn't scare defenses, so an upgrade is an absolute must.
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby Bertz » Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:14 pm

Trading for Cam instead of waiting like three days for his release would be the Pace-iest thing Pace has ever done.

I don't like any of the QB options, but to me Dalton has the best chance of actually ending up a good move. He's been very good in the right situations in the past, and I imagine he will cost the least to acquire.
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby BigbadB » Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:21 pm

Bertz wrote:Trading for Cam instead of waiting like three days for his release would be the Pace-iest thing Pace has ever done.

I don't like any of the QB options, but to me Dalton has the best chance of actually ending up a good move. He's been very good in the right situations in the past, and I imagine he will cost the least to acquire.


I'd be surprised if Dalton doesn't end up in NE.
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby Derwood » Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:37 pm

Bertz wrote:Trading for Cam instead of waiting like three days for his release would be the Pace-iest thing Pace has ever done.

I don't like any of the QB options, but to me Dalton has the best chance of actually ending up a good move. He's been very good in the right situations in the past, and I imagine he will cost the least to acquire.


Waiting for him to be released runs the risk of him just not coming.
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby David » Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:43 pm

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Bertz wrote:Trading for Cam instead of waiting like three days for his release would be the Pace-iest thing Pace has ever done.

I don't like any of the QB options, but to me Dalton has the best chance of actually ending up a good move. He's been very good in the right situations in the past, and I imagine he will cost the least to acquire.


Waiting for him to be released runs the risk of him just not coming.



yeah. on the other hand, there were those reports that indicated he was interested in coming to the bears a few months ago.

it would depend on how much they'd actually be giving up. if it was a nothing return, like a really late pick or something, it wouldn't really bother me.
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby jersey cubs fan » Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:51 pm

the bears have no business trading picks for old Qbs
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Postby Bertz » Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:36 pm

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Bertz wrote:Trading for Cam instead of waiting like three days for his release would be the Pace-iest thing Pace has ever done.

I don't like any of the QB options, but to me Dalton has the best chance of actually ending up a good move. He's been very good in the right situations in the past, and I imagine he will cost the least to acquire.


Waiting for him to be released runs the risk of him just not coming.


That's what makes it such a Pace move IMO. Paying an extra $0.50 on the dollar to make completely sure you get your Plan A is his signature move.
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby Sammy Sofa » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:23 pm

BigbadB wrote:I'd be okay with Bortles.


I feel like they should rename Soldier Field using this quote. It's Bear fandom in a nutshell.
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby ChiCubsFan » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:25 pm

Had he traded up and got Mahomes and Bears Mahomes is remotely close to KC Mahomes, Pace looks like a genius. Yes, some people would still say they could have stayed put to get their guy, and you’re giving up unnecessary assets. But If there’s a QB worth giving up assets for, give up whatever you have to. You just have to be right. Unfortunately I don’t really think Cam is that guy and Trubisky certainly wasn’t.
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