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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby BigbadB » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:39 pm

That play doesn't stand alone. it happened over and over again. He doesn't see the entire field. He can't anticipate an open receiver. He can't see an open receiver. He can't hit an open receiver. It's why defenses challenge him to throw deep and stuff the line. I'm going to guess that he makes a lot of these plays in practice, but in game situations against a challenging defense, he has no confidence to make these plays. You can see it in his happy feet, his locked in target 5 yards away. it's affected the line play, the running game and the entire offense. I'm so ready to see this team move on. I bought my wife a Trubisky jersey, so I there was a time I was excited about him. I'll hold off on buying a Foles jersey, but I am happy with this trade.
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby BigbadB » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:40 pm

minnesotacubsfan wrote:
UMFan83 wrote:https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1241427168611237891?s=21

Steelers fans are rushing to the replies to inform Bears fans how bad he is

Pace loves 1st rd busts tho


It's a prove it deal, and they need cheap help somewhere. If he can't make plays in training camp, he won't make the opening day roster.
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby MidoreX » Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:31 am

Looks like it's a 6M signing bonus for Graham, meaning the 9M guaranteed is 6M this year against the cap, and 3M next year if we cut him... Still very much not a fan of the move
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:51 am

DVOA and DYAR thought Graham was a starter quality TE last year so there's that :dontknow:
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Postby minnesotacubsfan » Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:07 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote:DVOA and DYAR thought Graham was a starter quality TE last year so there's that :dontknow:



how could that be???? Aaron Rodgers is GOD!!!!!

(what if....Rodgers really can't see TE's)
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Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:54 pm

minnesotacubsfan wrote:
TomtheBombadil wrote:DVOA and DYAR thought Graham was a starter quality TE last year so there's that :dontknow:



how could that be???? Aaron Rodgers is GOD!!!!!

(what if....Rodgers really can't see TE's)

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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby jumbo » Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:10 pm

BigbadB wrote:That play doesn't stand alone. it happened over and over again. He doesn't see the entire field. He can't anticipate an open receiver. He can't see an open receiver. He can't hit an open receiver. It's why defenses challenge him to throw deep and stuff the line. I'm going to guess that he makes a lot of these plays in practice, but in game situations against a challenging defense, he has no confidence to make these plays. You can see it in his happy feet, his locked in target 5 yards away. it's affected the line play, the running game and the entire offense. I'm so ready to see this team move on. I bought my wife a Trubisky jersey, so I there was a time I was excited about him. I'll hold off on buying a Foles jersey, but I am happy with this trade.


I don't remember which game, but I watched the outside receiver flash across the middle, wide open, and I jumped up yelling "he's open!" Trubisky danced around and checked down for a gain of 4-5 yards. The color guy recaps the play as Trubisky doing a good job of taking what's available and getting a gain on the play, he actually said, "Trubisky makes his read, doesn't see anything, checks it down to keep the chains moving," which I guess was accurate, but he DIDN'T see the wide open receiver and missed a huge gain. I wonder how pissed Nagy had to be due to this, and can only think that this is why he ended up sitting him down at the end of the season. Hard to buy that hip injury...
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:35 pm

The Bears invented that Jaguars model
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Postby minnesotacubsfan » Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:41 pm

jersey cubs fan wrote:The Bears invented that Jaguars model


yea but nick foles
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby Soul » Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:43 pm

Lather, rinse, repeat...


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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby rawaction » Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:56 pm



Was really hoping there was a correlation here. Need a larger sample size.....of t*tties.
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby jumbo » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:54 am

So working from home has given me time to look at the Bears current roster and how things stack up at the moment:
Offense (24)
QB - 2 - Foles, Trubisky
RB - 4 - Montgomery, Cohen, ______, Nall
TE - 4 - Graham, Burton, ______, Harris
WR - 6 - Robinson, Miller, Patterson, Wins, Ridley, ______
OL - 8 - Leno, Daniels, Whitehair, ______, Massie, Bars, Coward, ______
Defense (26)
DL - 6 - Hicks, Goldman, RRH, Nichols, Urban, Anderson
OLB - 5 - Mack, Quinn, Mingo, ______, Irving
ILB - 5 - Smith, Trevathan, ______, Iggy, Woods
CB - 5 - Fuller, ______, Skrine, Tolliver, Burns, Shelly/Roberson
S - 5 - Jackson, ______, Bush, Lucas, Houston-Carson
ST (3)
Scales, ODonnell, Pineiro

So the way I see it, we have obvious needs for starters at: RG, RCB, SS, TE-Y
A backup/rotation player needed at: RB, ILB, T

My priority:
OL needs a G and a T. Maybe Bars and Coward compete for RG? Loser backs up G/T? This would be a nice time to draft a couple guys
CB could be a competition between Tolliver and Burns, but we have nothing behind Fuller
SS could be Bush, but I like him best as the backup to both SS and FS
TE is a bit tricky, Graham and Burton are both U types, meaning Braunecker is gone. Shaheen, Harris, Holtz would be your Y-type, but I think Shaheen is replaced and we have a new Y-type with Harris or Holtz as #2
WR could use a speed guy, could be Patterson, I guess - could Horsted by the #6 WR to keep him on the roster until next season when we have some more roster movement at TE?
RB needs a real backup to Montgomery that can run inside; Cohen is on the last year of his rookie deal
ILB needs a backup ahead of Iggy, ideally, but he may be good for that
OLB has a #3 in Mingo, but it would be great to get someone ahead of Irving

Like others have said, trading down with the 2nd round picks has to be in play to pick up a 4 or 5. I may look at prior trade downs in the second to see what we could realistically get by trading back, but likely a slight trade down (5 spots let's say) gets us a 4 or 5, a significant trade down could get us a 3 and a 4 or 5.
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby BigbadB » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:41 pm

Bears brought back Bray, which I assume will give him the practice squad job once again unless they draft someone that beats him out in camp.
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Postby WrigleyField 22 » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:58 pm

BigbadB wrote:Bears brought back Bray, which I assume will give him the practice squad job once again unless they draft someone that beats him out in camp.

He won't be practice squad eligible again.

That said, they may still be trying to trade Trubisky. Or even if they don't trade Trubisky, they still don't have a 3rd QB on the roster anywhere. And they may only carry 2, but you need at least 3 in camp and preseason.
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby jumbo » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:17 pm

Rapaport is reporting Germain Ifedi to the Bears, but Biggs hasn't reported the same thing. Is that really happening?
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Postby WrigleyField 22 » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:45 pm

jumbo wrote:Rapaport is reporting Germain Ifedi to the Bears, but Biggs hasn't reported the same thing. Is that really happening?

In what world does someone wait on Biggs to validate Rapaport news?
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Postby minnesotacubsfan » Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:24 am

Ifedi would be a nice addition
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby Old Style » Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:04 am

minnesotacubsfan wrote:Ifedi would be a nice addition

Don’t want to hate on my fellow Aggie but he’s been fairly underwhelming in Seattle. He’s not terrible and has the potential to be very good so he should be an upgrade at least.
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Postby Old Style » Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:07 am


This was done for James Harden a year or so ago.
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Postby Tim » Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:11 am

Old Style wrote:

This was done for James Harden a year or so ago.

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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:50 am

Old Style wrote:

This was done for James Harden a year or so ago.

Yes, he thanked the guy who did the Harden thing at the end.
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:36 pm

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BigbadB wrote:Bears brought back Bray, which I assume will give him the practice squad job once again unless they draft someone that beats him out in camp.

He won't be practice squad eligible again.

That said, they may still be trying to trade Trubisky. Or even if they don't trade Trubisky, they still don't have a 3rd QB on the roster anywhere. And they may only carry 2, but you need at least 3 in camp and preseason.

And I just found out the new CBA allows for one practice squad player with any experience level. Tyler Bray, come on down to the practice squad!
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