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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby UMFan83 » Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:18 pm



PFF’s biggest draft busts since 2014. Ryan Pace has made 4 first round picks as GM. Guess how many are on this list of 10?
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

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UMFan83 wrote:https://twitter.com/pff/status/1243251882522554369?s=21

PFF’s biggest draft busts since 2014. Ryan Pace has made 4 first round picks as GM. Guess how many are on this list of 10?


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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

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In case you're wanting a Jalen Hurts or someone in like the 4th
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:21 pm

Bertz wrote:https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/1243551019461730311?s=19

In case you're wanting a Jalen Hurts or someone in like the 4th

Well the Bears don't have anything from pick 50 to 163 in the 5th now. They might move around, and Pace is always game to trade future picks, but as it stands, they could miss on that tier 3 QB prospect too.
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby Bertz » Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:25 pm

WrigleyField 22 wrote:
Bertz wrote:https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/1243551019461730311?s=19

In case you're wanting a Jalen Hurts or someone in like the 4th

Well the Bears don't have anything from pick 50 to 163 in the 5th now. They might move around, and Pace is always game to trade future picks, but as it stands, they could miss on that tier 3 QB prospect too.


Oh that's right, I forgot that Pace decided to flush our 4th away for Foles. Fantastic.
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:47 pm

Seems like there could be a good converging of need and BPA in the second and the Bears can add a G and S. But I wouldn't be mad at a QB (perhaps Hurts) in the second either. If a guy like him does start dropping, maybe you can fill a need like G at 43, drop back into the late second with a trade down at 50 to pick back up a 4th, and grab a QB with one of those picks, plus still be able to plug another hole.

It would be really great to grab a developmental OT as well. Just looking ahead to next year the cap is REALLY tight and that's before they probably make some more cap adjusting moves for more space thus year. Two top candidates to clear some space on the cap will be the starting two OT. But all the good OT prospects may be gone by 43.

Supposed to be a really good WR draft. Hopefully they can get a good slot receiver in the 5th who can stretch the field a little. They lack top end speed in the WR group since cutting Gabriel.
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby UMFan83 » Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:02 pm

Cant believe we only have 2 picks (both 2nds) in the first 4 rounds. At least it means I only have to pay attention for like a 45 minute period in the 2nd round between picks 43 and 50, then can just read about who the Bears drafted with their 5(!) picks in the 5th-7th rounds.
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby BigbadB » Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:07 pm

UMFan83 wrote:Cant believe we only have 2 picks (both 2nds) in the first 4 rounds. At least it means I only have to pay attention for like a 45 minute period in the 2nd round between picks 43 and 50, then can just read about who the Bears drafted with their 5(!) picks in the 5th-7th rounds.


They still have a 4th rounder.
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby BigbadB » Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:13 pm

WrigleyField 22 wrote:Seems like there could be a good converging of need and BPA in the second and the Bears can add a G and S. But I wouldn't be mad at a QB (perhaps Hurts) in the second either. If a guy like him does start dropping, maybe you can fill a need like G at 43, drop back into the late second with a trade down at 50 to pick back up a 4th, and grab a QB with one of those picks, plus still be able to plug another hole.

It would be really great to grab a developmental OT as well. Just looking ahead to next year the cap is REALLY tight and that's before they probably make some more cap adjusting moves for more space thus year. Two top candidates to clear some space on the cap will be the starting two OT. But all the good OT prospects may be gone by 43.

Supposed to be a really good WR draft. Hopefully they can get a good slot receiver in the 5th who can stretch the field a little. They lack top end speed in the WR group since cutting Gabriel.


I kind of expect to see them use one of the 2nd's and then trade down with the other. If they can gather an early 4th, I could see them go after Jake Fromm. There does seem to a be lot of interest in the Georgia program. Is it entirely coincidental that there are currently 3 rostered WR's from Georgia?
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby BigbadB » Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:14 pm

Bertz wrote:
WrigleyField 22 wrote:
Bertz wrote:https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/1243551019461730311?s=19

In case you're wanting a Jalen Hurts or someone in like the 4th

Well the Bears don't have anything from pick 50 to 163 in the 5th now. They might move around, and Pace is always game to trade future picks, but as it stands, they could miss on that tier 3 QB prospect too.


Oh that's right, I forgot that Pace decided to flush our 4th away for Foles. Fantastic.


Gambling on a 4th round QB in the draft or trading that pick for an established starter in Foles. I'll take the Foles trade.
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby UMFan83 » Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:20 pm

BigbadB wrote:
UMFan83 wrote:Cant believe we only have 2 picks (both 2nds) in the first 4 rounds. At least it means I only have to pay attention for like a 45 minute period in the 2nd round between picks 43 and 50, then can just read about who the Bears drafted with their 5(!) picks in the 5th-7th rounds.


They still have a 4th rounder.


Weird I just looked up an article and it said we only had the compensatory 4th that we ultimately traded for foles.
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:34 pm

UMFan83 wrote:
BigbadB wrote:
UMFan83 wrote:Cant believe we only have 2 picks (both 2nds) in the first 4 rounds. At least it means I only have to pay attention for like a 45 minute period in the 2nd round between picks 43 and 50, then can just read about who the Bears drafted with their 5(!) picks in the 5th-7th rounds.


They still have a 4th rounder.


Weird I just looked up an article and it said we only had the compensatory 4th that we ultimately traded for foles.

Yea, the other 4th I think was part of the Montgomery trade last year??
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:36 pm

UMFan83 wrote: their 5(!) picks in the 5th-7th rounds.

Just wait for 2021. They could end up with as many as 4 comp picks, all in the 6th round! That would be like 4 late round picks in a 12-15 pick spread.
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby UMFan83 » Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:58 pm

BigbadB wrote:
Bertz wrote:
WrigleyField 22 wrote:Well the Bears don't have anything from pick 50 to 163 in the 5th now. They might move around, and Pace is always game to trade future picks, but as it stands, they could miss on that tier 3 QB prospect too.


Oh that's right, I forgot that Pace decided to flush our 4th away for Foles. Fantastic.


Gambling on a 4th round QB in the draft or trading that pick for an established starter in Foles. I'll take the Foles trade.


4th round QB and maybe cap space spent elsewhere is a consideration as well, though I'd still probably take Foles

Or use the 4th on someone else and sign Newton, but it looks like they favored Foles
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby UK » Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:56 am

BigbadB wrote:
Bertz wrote:
WrigleyField 22 wrote:Well the Bears don't have anything from pick 50 to 163 in the 5th now. They might move around, and Pace is always game to trade future picks, but as it stands, they could miss on that tier 3 QB prospect too.


Oh that's right, I forgot that Pace decided to flush our 4th away for Foles. Fantastic.


Gambling on a 4th round QB in the draft or trading that pick for an established starter in Foles. I'll take the Foles trade.


It's not that Foles is terrible, it's just that he had a bad contract and most importantly, no trade market and yet the Bears likely bid against themselves and lost. It was a buyer's market and they still managed to overpay.
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Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:46 am

UK wrote:
BigbadB wrote:
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Oh that's right, I forgot that Pace decided to flush our 4th away for Foles. Fantastic.


Gambling on a 4th round QB in the draft or trading that pick for an established starter in Foles. I'll take the Foles trade.


It's not that Foles is terrible, it's just that he had a bad contract and most importantly, no trade market and yet the Bears likely bid against themselves and lost. It was a buyer's market and they still managed to overpay.

...how much is a 4th round pick really worth?
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

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JudasIscariotTheBird wrote:
UK wrote:
BigbadB wrote:
Gambling on a 4th round QB in the draft or trading that pick for an established starter in Foles. I'll take the Foles trade.


It's not that Foles is terrible, it's just that he had a bad contract and most importantly, no trade market and yet the Bears likely bid against themselves and lost. It was a buyer's market and they still managed to overpay.

...how much is a 4th round pick really worth?


More than Foles (unless you're the Bears).
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

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JudasIscariotTheBird wrote:
UK wrote:
BigbadB wrote:
Gambling on a 4th round QB in the draft or trading that pick for an established starter in Foles. I'll take the Foles trade.


It's not that Foles is terrible, it's just that he had a bad contract and most importantly, no trade market and yet the Bears likely bid against themselves and lost. It was a buyer's market and they still managed to overpay.

...how much is a 4th round pick really worth?


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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby jumbo » Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:25 pm

WrigleyField 22 wrote:
UMFan83 wrote: their 5(!) picks in the 5th-7th rounds.

Just wait for 2021. They could end up with as many as 4 comp picks, all in the 6th round! That would be like 4 late round picks in a 12-15 pick spread.

I think Ifedi is going to wipe out their highest 6th round comp pick, so likely two 6ths and one 7th
Still nice to accumulate some picks
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:55 pm

jumbo wrote:
WrigleyField 22 wrote:
UMFan83 wrote: their 5(!) picks in the 5th-7th rounds.

Just wait for 2021. They could end up with as many as 4 comp picks, all in the 6th round! That would be like 4 late round picks in a 12-15 pick spread.

I think Ifedi is going to wipe out their highest 6th round comp pick, so likely two 6ths and one 7th
Still nice to accumulate some picks

I'm kind of expecting him to not count against the comp formula. They really don't have much cap space to be offering deals above the comp line.
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby jumbo » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:04 pm

WrigleyField 22 wrote:
jumbo wrote:
WrigleyField 22 wrote:Just wait for 2021. They could end up with as many as 4 comp picks, all in the 6th round! That would be like 4 late round picks in a 12-15 pick spread.

I think Ifedi is going to wipe out their highest 6th round comp pick, so likely two 6ths and one 7th
Still nice to accumulate some picks

I'm kind of expecting him to not count against the comp formula. They really don't have much cap space to be offering deals above the comp line.

Hope you're right. The Over the Cap guy on Twitter predicted he would cancel out a pick, we'll see...
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:29 pm

jersey cubs fan wrote:https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1245381026018463745?s=20

So depending on the nature of the incentives that sounds like it gives the Bears some cap wiggle room, if they're not likely to be earned incentives. Though if he hits them, they will take that cap hit eventually.
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby BigbadB » Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:38 pm

WrigleyField 22 wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1245381026018463745?s=20

So depending on the nature of the incentives that sounds like it gives the Bears some cap wiggle room, if they're not likely to be earned incentives. Though if he hits them, they will take that cap hit eventually.


They are saying the current cap flexibility is 9m, but the Ifedi deal is still pending. They can still rework ARob's contract as well. I would like to see them be able to add some guys when the later roster cuts start happening.
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Re: Chicago Bears offseason

Postby Old Style » Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:37 am

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