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Postby NOLA » Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:42 am



I’ll take it.

Looks like a late January season start.
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Re: NBA ‘20-‘21 Offseason

Postby UMFan83 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:49 am

The horsefeathers part about the NBA and NHL finishing their seasons is that we’re about to go on another no daily sports gap. Hopefully college basketball starts up on schedule so at least there is that during the week.

It will be nearly a calendar year between Bulls games when they actually get on the court again lol
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Re: NBA ‘20-‘21 Offseason

Postby NOLA » Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:52 am

Yes, please.

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Re: NBA ‘20-‘21 Offseason

Postby rawaction » Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:05 am

Anthony Davis opting out of his contract with the Lakers. It is expected that he will then become an unrestricted free agent and sign a contract with......The Lakers. Rondo also declining his option and becoming a FA.
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Re: NBA ‘20-‘21 Offseason

Postby NOLA » Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:41 pm



I like it.
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Re: NBA ‘20-‘21 Offseason

Postby Cubswin11 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:54 pm

Harden to the Nets sounds like it’s happening
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Re: NBA ‘20-‘21 Offseason

Postby rawaction » Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:10 am

Dennis Shroeder to the Lakers is happening for Danny Green and the 28th pick. I hate how good a fit this is, but probably takes them out of DeRozan and whatever else they've been rumored for. Though, still have Kuzma as a trade chip (lol).
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Re: NBA ‘20-‘21 Offseason

Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:29 am

Holiday to the Bucks for an absolute horsefeathers load and Covington to the Blazers for a pretty big haul too.

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Re: NBA ‘20-‘21 Offseason

Postby TomtheBombadil » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:38 am

I wanted Holiday on the Nets pretty bad but 3 firsts are alot for them with Durant and Irving not as young as Giannis. I get the move for the Bucks even if 3 firsts can sound like alot. That cost is nothing compared to losing an MVP in his prime and this move makes that less likely if still likely
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Re: NBA ‘20-‘21 Offseason

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:42 am

TomtheBombadil wrote:I wanted Holiday on the Nets pretty bad but 3 firsts are alot for them with Durant and Irving not as young as Giannis. I get the move for the Bucks even if 3 firsts can sound like alot. That cost is nothing compared to losing an MVP in his prime and this move makes that less likely if still likely


Those 3 first are pretty problematic for Milwaukee when Giannis is in Miami in 2021-22.
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Re: NBA ‘20-‘21 Offseason

Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:45 am

TomtheBombadil wrote:I wanted Holiday on the Nets pretty bad but 3 firsts are alot for them with Durant and Irving not as young as Giannis. I get the move for the Bucks even if 3 firsts can sound like alot. That cost is nothing compared to losing an MVP in his prime and this move makes that less likely if still likely

I certainly get doing it if it means Giannis is staying. But we’ve seen in this league that’s a roll of the dice to assume stars intentions. Just seems like a lot for a 30+ year old (on an expiring contract) who plays the deepest position in the league when that’s a package that typically can return you a top 12-15 player in the league and not a top 30-50 player. Plus idk of Holiday is all that much better than Bledsoe, or at least spending all those picks on a marginal upgrade is worth it. Just seems like that package (or swapping Bledsoe out for Middleton) could’ve returned a better/younger player/star.
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Re: NBA ‘20-‘21 Offseason

Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:20 am

Like this move a ton for the Bucks. They had too much useless depth last year and needed to consolidate it in to more known things.

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Re: NBA ‘20-‘21 Offseason

Postby TomtheBombadil » Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:06 am

Counterpoints: Holiday seems much better than Bledsoe because of the defense, is a better a passer too. The stuff I've read (one article) made it seem like keeping Middleton was something they wanted to do. I'm big on one year deals these days too, think it's more a positive than a negative for teams. In the scenario the Bucks can't bring Giannis back, there's not a whole lot of benefit to having Holiday under contract. Hell, I think there's a case to be made that those first round picks are a whole lot less valuable to the Bucks if they lose Giannis since nothing's happening for a few years with or without them

The rest of this post is insane, should be read (should not be read at all) in the context that I think pro sports are a part of the oligarchy which is also insane:

Maybe the league's setting them up to sim some new kind of player development plan? The Nets built alot of their roster with second round picks, it took a while but they got there. Maybe this go around will take less time? I have no idea what their coaching and FO situation is but it does seem like the Bucks got to where they are through player development and smaller transactions, good opportunity for the league to explore how long it takes to rebuild from scratch after losing an MVP?
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Re: NBA ‘20-‘21 Offseason

Postby rawaction » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:24 pm

I really like the Bogdanovic move for the Bucks. That's underrated. I don't know what kind of depth they'll have at this point, but the starting 5 of: Holiday, Middleton, Bogdanovic, Giannis, Lopez is as good as there is in the league.

I'm really liking the Suns roster too. I was sold on them as a playoff team after that bubble performance. Chris Paul will take them up a notch. I've heard their next move is PJ Tucker, which I think could make them the team most likely to go on a Nuggets like run next year.
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Re: NBA ‘20-‘21 Offseason

Postby soccer10k » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:53 pm

rawaction wrote:I'm really liking the Suns roster too. I was sold on them as a playoff team after that bubble performance. Chris Paul will take them up a notch. I've heard their next move is PJ Tucker, which I think could make them the team most likely to go on a Nuggets like run next year.


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Re: NBA ‘20-‘21 Offseason

Postby NOLA » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:39 pm

Between the Anthony Davis and Jru trades, the Pelicans now have Zion and Brandon Ingram, tons of cap space and 13 first round draft picks in the next 8 drafts. This feels like the Dallas Cowboys after the Herschel Walker trade.
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Re: NBA ‘20-‘21 Offseason

Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:50 pm

NOLA wrote:Between the Anthony Davis and Jru trades, the Pelicans now have Zion and Brandon Ingram, tons of cap space and 13 first round draft picks in the next 8 drafts. This feels like the Dallas Cowboys after the Herschel Walker trade.

Yeah the Pelicans and Thunder are set up great the next few years with their pick war chests. Should absolutely be able to add another star or two either with the actual picks (or at least solid role players) or use them to trade for the next disgruntled star.
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Re: NBA ‘20-‘21 Offseason

Postby rawaction » Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:20 pm

NOLA wrote:Between the Anthony Davis and Jru trades, the Pelicans now have Zion and Brandon Ingram, tons of cap space and 13 first round draft picks in the next 8 drafts. This feels like the Dallas Cowboys after the Herschel Walker trade.


Just wait for the picks they get when Ingram and Zion inevitably want out of there! But seriously, they should be able to be a solid team for a long time with all those assets. Between NOLA and OKC, there aren't going to be many other teams on the clock for the foreseeable future.
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Re: NBA ‘20-‘21 Offseason

Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:40 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote:Counterpoints: Holiday seems much better than Bledsoe because of the defense, is a better a passer too. The stuff I've read (one article) made it seem like keeping Middleton was something they wanted to do. I'm big on one year deals these days too, think it's more a positive than a negative for teams. In the scenario the Bucks can't bring Giannis back, there's not a whole lot of benefit to having Holiday under contract. Hell, I think there's a case to be made that those first round picks are a whole lot less valuable to the Bucks if they lose Giannis since nothing's happening for a few years with or without them

The rest of this post is insane, should be read (should not be read at all) in the context that I think pro sports are a part of the oligarchy which is also insane:

Maybe the league's setting them up to sim some new kind of player development plan? The Nets built alot of their roster with second round picks, it took a while but they got there. Maybe this go around will take less time? I have no idea what their coaching and FO situation is but it does seem like the Bucks got to where they are through player development and smaller transactions, good opportunity for the league to explore how long it takes to rebuild from scratch after losing an MVP?

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Re: NBA ‘20-‘21 Offseason

Postby rawaction » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:21 pm

These "Anthony Edwards doesn't love basketball" comments are killing me. But the best things I have ever read...

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Re: NBA ‘20-‘21 Offseason

Postby rawaction » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:40 pm

Sixers trading Al Horford to OKC for newly acquired Danny Green. Sixers also give up pick 34 tonight and a 2025 first rounder (yes, 5 years from now) to OKC.
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Re: NBA ‘20-‘21 Offseason

Postby rawaction » Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:24 am

Klay Thompson tore his Achilles today apparently.

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Re: NBA ‘20-‘21 Offseason

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:42 am

rawaction wrote:Klay Thompson tore his Achilles today apparently.

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Re: NBA ‘20-‘21 Offseason

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