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Postby Banedon » Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:01 pm

Better late than never I guess.
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:12 pm

they actively antagonized the barstool hating portion of their audience, then pissed off the barstool adoring portion. This is a huge mess-up.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:39 pm

Nobody at ESPN has any horsefeathering clue what they're doing as they die the slowest of deaths.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:46 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:Nobody at ESPN has any horsefeathering clue what they're doing as they die the slowest of deaths.

Yeah it was a weird partnership from the start, especially from ESPN's side. They had to of known they were going to get blowback by doing a show with them and had to of calculated it was "worth the risk" to partner with Barstool to get their demo, so it's weird they are already pulling the plug for stuff that they should've seen coming when they initially started putting this together. But yeah ESPN is just a giant [expletive] of a company and agree they are very much on the downward trend and this whole thing with Barstool from the beginning to now is and was horsefeathering dumb.
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Re: Sports Media Thread

Postby David » Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:19 pm

more espn horsefeathers ups

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Postby Sammy Sofa » Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:21 pm

It would be so ESPN to try and scramble to fix this by doing something amazingly stupid like hiring Clay Travis.
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Postby WrigleyField 22 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:31 pm

This all happened so quick, I didn't even know it happened originally. I really haven't paid much attention to ESPN in years though.
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Re: Sports Media Thread

Postby davell » Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:00 am

You know that most of the writers at The Athletic had to be pissed, when seeing their boss make such an idiotic comment. Then he backed it up for hours, before finally apologizing and even used having had 3 beers prior to his interview, as his excuse.
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Re: Sports Media Thread

Postby KingCubsFan » Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:26 am

jersey cubs fan wrote:they actively antagonized the barstool hating portion of their audience, then pissed off the barstool adoring portion. This is a huge mess-up.

They couldn't have possibly handled this any worse. They shouldn't have agreed to include Barstool in the title of the show. The PMT guys are much bigger than Barstool and that's who they were hiring.
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Re: Sports Media Thread

Postby Chocolate Milk » Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:39 am

jersey cubs fan wrote:

Big Cat tweeted at Mooch today and he’s coming on the podcast to discuss getting fired in 11 days.

PFT and Big Cat should leave Barstool. They don’t belong there anymore. I was never really exposed to any of the Barstool horsefeathers before I started listening to PMT. I just saw PFT Commenter was doing a podcast and was curious. They are really almost a parody of the dopey Barstool shtick.

All the other Barstool people seem terrible and not funny. If I was PFT, I’d stuff Portnoy into a pillow case and throw him in the East river.
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Re: Sports Media Thread

Postby davell » Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:52 am

I know nothing about Barstool. I had no idea PFTCommenter was even on there. I thought he had a fairly solid reputation? Am I wrong?
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Re: Sports Media Thread

Postby KingCubsFan » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:28 pm

Chocolate Milk wrote:
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Big Cat tweeted at Mooch today and he’s coming on the podcast to discuss getting fired in 11 days.

PFT and Big Cat should leave Barstool. They don’t belong there anymore. I was never really exposed to any of the Barstool horsefeathers before I started listening to PMT. I just saw PFT Commenter was doing a podcast and was curious. They are really almost a parody of the dopey Barstool shtick.

All the other Barstool people seem terrible and not funny. If I was PFT, I’d stuff Portnoy into a pillow case and throw him in the East river.

They discussed the cancellation on PMT today. It's pretty clear they both blame Portnoy for this, and he inserted himself at the last minute to get the show renamed to "Barstool Van Talk" at the last minute. I think they'll continue to distance themselves from the rest of the company after this debacle.
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Re: Sports Media Thread

Postby Banedon » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:37 pm

KingCubsFan wrote:I think they'll continue to distance themselves from the rest of the company after this debacle.


Too horsefeathering late.

There's so many awful, sexist, misogynistic reasons that they should have distanced themselves from Barstool before this...but now they'll distance themselves because Portnoy screwed up their ESPN deal? horsefeathers them.
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Re: Sports Media Thread

Postby KingCubsFan » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:03 pm

Banedon wrote:
KingCubsFan wrote:I think they'll continue to distance themselves from the rest of the company after this debacle.


Too horsefeathering late.

There's so many awful, sexist, misogynistic reasons that they should have distanced themselves from Barstool before this...but now they'll distance themselves because Portnoy screwed up their ESPN deal? horsefeathers them.

Well, I think they've already been doing it. I think this will just expedite the process.
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Re: Sports Media Thread

Postby Chocolate Milk » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:34 pm

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KingCubsFan wrote:I think they'll continue to distance themselves from the rest of the company after this debacle.


Too horsefeathering late.

There's so many awful, sexist, misogynistic reasons that they should have distanced themselves from Barstool before this...but now they'll distance themselves because Portnoy screwed up their ESPN deal? horsefeathers them.

What exactly did you want them to do? Barstool owns the rights to PMT. I think you could say that PFT should have never joined Barstool given their history - that's fair. I think they did distance themselves from Barstool as much as was practical given that it was a Barstool owned property. The show is literally a satire of the bro-dude sports culture.

I honestly don't really even fault ESPN here, but I do feel bad for Big Cat and PFT.
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Re: Sports Media Thread

Postby Banedon » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:44 pm

Like you said, PFT just never should have joined Barstool. And I don't know why Big Cat gets a pass. He's been a part of Barstool for years and has benefited largely from the culture that it endorses. I don't feel bad for either of them.
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:53 pm

Banedon wrote:Like you said, PFT just never should have joined Barstool. And I don't know why Big Cat gets a pass. He's been a part of Barstool for years and has benefited largely from the culture that it endorses. I don't feel bad for either of them.

On one hand, he never should have joined. On the other hand, he was looking for his first real break into the biz as it was disintegrating. Being twitter famous and writing the occasional piece at SBNation? wasn't going to pay the bills.

But big cat is just a jock sniffing douchebro.


And even if you are doing a bit, at some point in the process, if all you do is act the douchebro to make fun of douchebros, you're being a douchebro. The comedian that plays the racist homophobe all day every day is eventually just hiding behind the label of comedian. At some point you have to come on the other side of the camera and make clear where you stand. Their audience is littered with the people they are making fun of, and those people don't view it as them being made fun of, because in their eyes they are being celebrated.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:05 pm

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jersey cubs fan wrote:
Banedon wrote:Like you said, PFT just never should have joined Barstool. And I don't know why Big Cat gets a pass. He's been a part of Barstool for years and has benefited largely from the culture that it endorses. I don't feel bad for either of them.

On one hand, he never should have joined. On the other hand, he was looking for his first real break into the biz as it was disintegrating. Being twitter famous and writing the occasional piece at SBNation? wasn't going to pay the bills.

But big cat is just a jock sniffing douchebro.


And even if you are doing a bit, at some point in the process, if all you do is act the douchebro to make fun of douchebros, you're being a douchebro. The comedian that plays the racist homophobe all day every day is eventually just hiding behind the label of comedian. At some point you have to come on the other side of the camera and make clear where you stand. Their audience is littered with the people they are making fun of, and those people don't view it as them being made fun of, because in their eyes they are being celebrated.

Out of completely random curiosity, how did Colbert strike the balance?
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Re: Sports Media Thread

Postby jersey cubs fan » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:29 pm

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jersey cubs fan wrote:
Banedon wrote:Like you said, PFT just never should have joined Barstool. And I don't know why Big Cat gets a pass. He's been a part of Barstool for years and has benefited largely from the culture that it endorses. I don't feel bad for either of them.

On one hand, he never should have joined. On the other hand, he was looking for his first real break into the biz as it was disintegrating. Being twitter famous and writing the occasional piece at SBNation? wasn't going to pay the bills.

But big cat is just a jock sniffing douchebro.


And even if you are doing a bit, at some point in the process, if all you do is act the douchebro to make fun of douchebros, you're being a douchebro. The comedian that plays the racist homophobe all day every day is eventually just hiding behind the label of comedian. At some point you have to come on the other side of the camera and make clear where you stand. Their audience is littered with the people they are making fun of, and those people don't view it as them being made fun of, because in their eyes they are being celebrated.

Out of completely random curiosity, how did Colbert strike the balance?

Well, he existed in the public eye before that show went big, he did interviews all the time and the way he went about it was beyond obvious.

He also didn't work for a company that was openly exactly the same thing he was making fun of.

If Colbert was doing the Colbert Show on Fox that would have been a different thing.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:30 pm

Because he was always so absurd. There's this weird misconception that Colbert was baffling massive amounts of conservatives into thinking he was one of them, like he somehow tricked his way into something like hosting the Correspondents Dinner, and that simply wasn't the case. When you're peppering every episode with things like your obsessive hatred of bears, you're making it pretty damn obvious that the whole thing is a bit.
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Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:33 pm

I'm a little surprised there's this much discussion about Big Cat and PFT. I've never seen anything entertaining or insightful from either of them. I'm not a podcast person though, so maybe they're audio savants?
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:38 pm

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:I'm a little surprised there's this much discussion about Big Cat and PFT. I've never seen anything entertaining or insightful from either of them. I'm not a podcast person though, so maybe they're audio savants?

I think PFT's schtick has lost some of its luster but he's been entertaining. Big Cat, much less so.
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