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Postby David » Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:06 pm

Erm, wow...

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Postby Sammy Sofa » Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:09 pm

Probably a Trump fan, too.

I like the idea that NFL coaches can "physically impose their will" on their players. Yeah, I'm sure Belichick only truly asserted himself over his team when he dropped Bledsoe over his horsefeathering knee and snapped his back in two.
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Postby Banedon » Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:38 am

Sammy Sofa wrote:Probably a Trump fan, too.

I like the idea that NFL coaches can "physically impose their will" on their players. Yeah, I'm sure Belichick only truly asserted himself over his team when he dropped Bledsoe over his [expletive] knee and snapped his back in two.


Anybody seen Todd Haley's resume? Spoiler alert. It doesn't include playing football.
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Postby biittner77 » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:30 pm

I coach Ladies Field Hockey. As a man, that makes me something of an anomaly. The prevailing attitude seems to be that what could I possibly know about the sport since I never played. I suppose, on some level, that concern is somewhat legitimate. Dads at field hockey games are some of the worst fans of any sport anywhere. It's sort of a guilt by association thing. Over the years I've been able to win people over and gain some margin of respect for actually knowing how the game works and successfully teaching that to players. Look for my tell all book The Grass Ceiling whenever I get around to writing it.

The "How can you coach a sport that you didn't play?" crowd misses an important point: coaches need only be able to command the respect of their players in order to be effective. Maybe it's a little harder at first because it's something new but I don't see why a woman couldn't coach football.
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Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:17 pm

biittner77 wrote:I don't see why a woman couldn't coach football.


biittner77 wrote:coaches need only be able to command the respect of their players in order to be effective


You answered yourself. You think a bunch of dumb, meatball jocks with varying levels of brain owies are going to show any level of respect to a woman? I'd say not likely.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:24 pm

Sometimes not even men; ONLY MIGHTY ANIMALS:

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Postby jersey cubs fan » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:15 pm

Ding Dong Johnson wrote:
biittner77 wrote:I don't see why a woman couldn't coach football.


biittner77 wrote:coaches need only be able to command the respect of their players in order to be effective


You answered yourself. You think a bunch of dumb, meatball jocks with varying levels of brain owies are going to show any level of respect to a woman? I'd say not likely.

this is ridiculous
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:42 pm

They only respect men's men like Pete Carroll and Jon Gruden. Hulking, intimidating he-men like Sean Payton and Mike McCarthy. Indomitable alpha bros like Marvin Louis and Chuck Pagano and Bruce Arians. I get nervous just talking about them.
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Postby ConstableRabbit » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:59 pm

There's only one woman who's fit to be a coach in professional men's sports.
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Postby David » Mon Jan 25, 2016 6:55 pm

Apparently, this is where Sharma is going

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Postby David » Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:24 pm

^BTW, this seems to me like a terrible idea. i'd never pay $10 a month for local sports writing, and i'm a pretty avid local sports fan. there's more than enough free quality content out there.
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Postby davell » Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:36 pm

David wrote:^BTW, this seems to me like a terrible idea. i'd never pay $10 a month for local sports writing, and i'm a pretty avid local sports fan. there's more than enough free quality content out there.


Yeah, its unfortunately pretty underwhelming.
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:22 pm

David wrote:^BTW, this seems to me like a terrible idea. i'd never pay $10 a month for local sports writing, and i'm a pretty avid local sports fan. there's more than enough free quality content out there.

it's $10? That's nuts.
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Postby David » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:28 pm

jersey cubs fan wrote:
David wrote:^BTW, this seems to me like a terrible idea. i'd never pay $10 a month for local sports writing, and i'm a pretty avid local sports fan. there's more than enough free quality content out there.

it's $10? That's nuts.


yup

compared to what people pay for like netflix, it seems insane
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:28 pm

David wrote:^BTW, this seems to me like a terrible idea. i'd never pay $10 a month for local sports writing, and i'm a pretty avid local sports fan. there's more than enough free quality content out there.


The people behind this are monstrous alcoholics or did this on a dare or a lost bet because it's one of the most blatantly stupid business ideas I've ever seen.
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Postby RammyFanny » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:35 pm

David wrote:
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David wrote:^BTW, this seems to me like a terrible idea. i'd never pay $10 a month for local sports writing, and i'm a pretty avid local sports fan. there's more than enough free quality content out there.

it's $10? That's nuts.


yup

compared to what people pay for like netflix, it seems insane

Was literally about to say the same thing. It's twice the price of a BP subscription and while the writers sound good, there's no way single guys covering teams can churn out that much useful information single handedly to make it worth it.
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:39 pm

David wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:
David wrote:^BTW, this seems to me like a terrible idea. i'd never pay $10 a month for local sports writing, and i'm a pretty avid local sports fan. there's more than enough free quality content out there.

it's $10? That's nuts.


yup

compared to what people pay for like netflix, it seems insane

one guy is covering the cubs and white sox and the other guy is covering the bulls and blackhawks.

what kind of weirdo would pay any money for that?
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Postby David » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:39 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:
David wrote:^BTW, this seems to me like a terrible idea. i'd never pay $10 a month for local sports writing, and i'm a pretty avid local sports fan. there's more than enough free quality content out there.


The people behind this are monstrous alcoholics or did this on a dare or a lost bet because it's one of the most blatantly stupid business ideas I've ever seen.


well i'm pretty sure they do like to consume alcohol
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:40 pm

David wrote:
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David wrote:^BTW, this seems to me like a terrible idea. i'd never pay $10 a month for local sports writing, and i'm a pretty avid local sports fan. there's more than enough free quality content out there.

it's $10? That's nuts.


yup

compared to what people pay for like netflix, it seems insane


Any amount of money for this is insane.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:47 pm

What a horrible idea and an even more horrible/ridiculous price point for subscription
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Postby Andy » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:50 pm

A friend of mine works for a similar site that covers Pittsburgh sports, but they only have 1 writer per team and the price is like $2 per month.

What I'm saying is this site is going to be a disaster.
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Postby davell » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:53 pm

Most of the guys at BP work a full time job and write on the side, from what it appears. My guess is someone gave these guys a bit of capital to work with(no idea why) and they'll use it as long as it lasts. A year seems about right to me.

On a side note, BP is truly a sinking ship. All those guys left for 2080, now Sharma.....That Rien Watt guy who had just started writing some decent stuff for BP Wrigleyville is now in charge of it......
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Postby CP_414 » Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:05 pm

$10 a month is crazy. If they build strong traffic on a free site, they should be able to generate far more through advertising than they'll get in subscriber fees.

The goal should be to get investors to keep it going to a point where they can be supported by advertising to get to a point where they can sell the site to a large media company. They'll need a lot of traffic to get to the point of being purchased and you can't get traffic as a startup if you charge. I think they should reconsider their plan.

Based on their comments, they seem to be banking on people being willing to pay for analytic based coverage. I don't think that will be the case.
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Tue Jan 26, 2016 12:55 am

Andy wrote:A friend of mine works for a similar site that covers Pittsburgh sports, but they only have 1 writer per team and the price is like $2 per month.

What I'm saying is this site is going to be a disaster.

That kovacavic guys site? My friend is a Pittsburgh fan and subscribes. That's about the same as a full newspaper but at least it's more reasonable
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Postby David » Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:01 am

CP_414 wrote:$10 a month is crazy. If they build strong traffic on a free site, they should be able to generate far more through advertising than they'll get in subscriber fees.

The goal should be to get investors to keep it going to a point where they can be supported by advertising to get to a point where they can sell the site to a large media company. They'll need a lot of traffic to get to the point of being purchased and you can't get traffic as a startup if you charge. I think they should reconsider their plan.

Based on their comments, they seem to be banking on people being willing to pay for analytic based coverage. I don't think that will be the case.


not to mention what the hell does jon greenberg know about analytics
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