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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:40 pm

davell wrote:Personally, I'm starting to think that Theo just got blindsided by our end of the year org meetings and was told we've got budget restraints due to the uncertainty of the TV deal......

If that's the case, the Hamels deal doesn't matter, because they're more concerned long term, than short term.


They don’t have any money for Harper so it doesn’t matter if they give 20 million to Hamels is logic I have a hard time getting behind.
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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby davell » Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:49 pm

A Cubs Off Season via Twitter

November 6, 2018 (Carlsbad, California)

Gordo- Cubs expect to be bit players in Free Agency
Sharma- Theo: "Yes, contrary to popular opinion, we DO we have a budget and it's on me and everyone in our department to do everything to the best of our abilities, to get the Chicago Cubs back to the World Series

November 7, 2018

Rosenthal- Rival clubs expect Cubs to keep Luxury Tax number under the second tier.
Nightingale- Cubs to set payroll under the Luxury Tax
Manu- Just sell the team.

November 8, 2018

Nightengale- Now that the Cubs run is over, why the Cards get Bryce Harper in Las Vegas

November 15, 2018

Morrissey- As Cubs falter, has Theo Epstein checked out?

November 19, 2018

Rogers- Breaking- Cubs bring back Rene Rivera
Passan- Rivera gets 3 million
Greenberg- Cubs having an off season that makes Pirates fans feel bad.

November 24, 2018

Gordo- Theo Epstein to leave Cubs once current contract is up
Mooney- Nothing to say, other than that's a writer's opinion, not a fact.
Brisbee- Hey Theo, we like the cut of your jib, how to kidnap him(not really, but maybe)

November 29, 2018

Rosenthal- Addison Russell is a non tender
Rogers- Theo" We wish Addison Russell the best, but feel Javy is our best option at SS"
Kelly Wallace- Why did this take this long?

December 2, 2018

Rosenbloom- Theo Epstein to whimper out of Chicago

December 4, 2018

Lavine- Cubs on periphery of Harper sweepstakes

December 7, 2018

Muskat- Cubs Winter Meetings expect to be quiet
Rogers- Theo- "We've got a good grasp of what we're trying to accomplish this off season. Our sole mission is to put the best possible team on the field as we can and we'll do that. Even if it takes all offseason.

December 9, 2018

Sharma- Theo: "Come on, that's not even worth commenting on. You guys wonder why the National guys break lots of news? Really?"

December 10, 2018

Greenberg- Sahadev, do we have a pass to Britney's concert?

December 11, 2018

Muskat- Cubs putting lots of work in during expected slow paced off season

December 12, 2018

10:43 AM Heyman- Cubs get Galvis
Greenberg- Not even Mercer?

12:44 PM Gordo- Rival Execs- Cubs are frustrated

5:33 PM Rogers- Theo- "Its slow. We solidified our depth behind Javy and we feel good about that. We are keeping our heads up and bouncing ideas off everyone.

6:16 PM Sharma- Maddon- " The lights here hurt my eyes. That's why I'm down. I think we may need to show these dealers what a Hazelton Heart is.
Greenberg- Joe has mailed it in.
Mooney- Maddon won't talk to me.

11:38 PM

Heyman- Dodgers looking good in Harper sweepstakes

11:47 PM

Nightingale- Cardinals still in hunt for Bryce Harper


Part 2 in 2nd Post......
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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby davell » Sat Nov 03, 2018 4:01 pm

December 13th

12:21 AM

Rosenthal- Duensing to Mariners
Gordo- Cubs cost cutting continues as Cubs send Victor Caratini away to get out from Duensing' 3.5 million

12:25 AM

Heyman- Kintzler to Oakland
Nightingale- Cubs appear to be selling off
Greenberg- Theo is trolling the horsefeathers out of us.

12:30

Passan- Alex Lange packaged with Kintzler for ptbnl
Sharma- Cubs save 8.5 million late Wednesday night
Craig Edwards- I almost feel bad for Cubs fans

12:33 AM

Tim Brown- Sources: Tyler Chatwood to Texas
Sharma- This may be a long night

12:36 AM

Rosenthal- Cubs closing in on Bryce Harper
Rogers- Wow
Greenberg- Holy horsefeathers
Heyman- Cubs making late push for Bryce
Lavine- More deals expected as Cubs Hendry gets busy

12:38 AM
Nightingale- Cards feel they've got great shot on Harper
Gordo- Cubs cost cutting continued with late night sale
Lavine- Epstein, not Hendry

12:39 AM
Passan- Miguel Amaya, Cubs top prospect, included in Chatwood move.
Heyman- Braves get Schwarber
Brisbee- Theo is a Gangsta, you guys should have kidnapped him, like I said.
Keith Law- Hearing Brailyn Marquez has been dealt to Texas

12:40 AM
Rosenthal- Cubs and Harper closing in on 400 million dollar deal.
Derrick Gould- Cards try, but fall short in Harper pursuit
Joel Sherman- Cubs get Minter
Bowden- No one is answering my texts
Rogers- I am just waiting to see the final tally, there's another move or two.
Mooney- How Maddon and Theo clashed on Morrow usage

12:41 AM
Passan- Full deal: Cubs send Chatwood, Miguel Amaya, Brailyn Marquez, and ptbnl to Toronto for Ryan Tepera
Heyman- Carlos Quintana to Phillies
Sharma- Sweet Lord
Keith Law- Holy horsefeathers
Brisbee- The Giants, horsefeathers it, I'm a Cubs fan, and we should all be.
Nightingale- Cubs move on from bad contracts of Kintzler and Duensing
Lavine- Roman Quinn traded to Cubs
Muskat- Theo Epstein has confidence Cubs will put a better product on field in 2019

12:43 AM
Bowden- Cubs evidently are busy this evening.
Chris Crawford- My head is exploding
Dayn Perry- This is fun and it sucks. It's ok to say this.
Brisbee- Cubs trade for Steph and Klay, Obama, Game of Thrones rights, the Marvel Universe, and the animated version of the Wendy's Where's the Beef Lady. I think they gave up a Stanley Nickel for these things.

12:44
Rosenthal- Full deal is Schwarber for Minter and Fried.
Heyman- Chavez back to Cubs
Passan- Hearing Cubs are getting Ranger Suarez as part of Quintana deal
Gordo- Cubs showing interest in Harper
Peter Gammons- Theorstucidoreblomngs

12:47 AM

Sharma- Ian Happ is being traded to Colorado
Brisbee- I've been known to cut fools that aren't Cubs fans
Lavine- Cubs trade for Bob Dernier

12:48
Lavine- Disregard last post, I'm having a beer with him.

12:49
Lavine- Cubs give Chavez 1 year deal for 5 million
Bowden- Cubs are making some moves

12:50
Rosenthal- Cubs trade Ian Happ straight up for Jon Gray

12:51
Heyman - Cubs giving Harper 16/400. Multiple opt outs.
Julie DiCaro- Sources- Cubs closing in on Bryce Harper

1:55 AM
Sharma- Recap of trades today
1) Duensing and Caratini to Seattle for ptbnl-salary saver
2) Kintzler and Lange to Oakland for ptbnl-salary saver
3) Chatwood, Miguel Amaya, and Brailyn Marquez to Texas for ptbnl-salary saver
4) Quintana to Philadelphia for OF Roman Quinn and LHP Ranger Suarez
5) Schwarber to Atlanta for Minter and Fried
6) Happ for Jon Gray

Signings
1) Chavez-1/5
2) Bryce-16/400
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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby Derwood » Sat Nov 03, 2018 4:33 pm

That reeked of effort
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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby davell » Sat Nov 03, 2018 4:41 pm

Derwood wrote:That reeked of effort


So, try it sometime?
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Postby Bryant's Disco Ball » Sat Nov 03, 2018 5:40 pm

davell wrote:
Derwood wrote:That reeked of effort


So, try it sometime?


I'm going to give this a try.

Sometime in November/December: Dodgers sign Bryce Harper.
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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby Cubswin11 » Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:31 pm

LOL, nice work Davell


I do like that team/offseason quite a bit if we have to do all those cost cutting moves to get Bryce.

Also, between the end of the regular season and yesterday it seems like it has been reported that every team has a hesitancy or a limited budget/willingness to spend this offseason, I think the idea we have little money to spend (by choice or by real factors) is a bit overblown and just some typical team positioning going in to the FA period and also writers sensationalizing things. Of course Theo isn’t going to come out bragging about how much money the Cubs have and how willing they are to be signing Bryce and ~4 other guys for half a billion dollars this offseason on day 1 of FA.
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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby TomtheBombadil » Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:06 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:LOL, nice work Davell


I do like that team/offseason quite a bit if we have to do all those cost cutting moves to get Bryce.

Also, between the end of the regular season and yesterday it seems like it’s been reported every team has hesistance or a limited budge/willingness this offseason, I think the idea we have little money to spend (by choice or by real factors) is a bit overblown and just some typical team positioning going in to the FA period and also writers sensationalizing things. Of course teams aren’t going to come out bragging about how much money they have and how willing they are to be signing Bryce and 2-4 other guys for for half a billion dollars this offseason on day 1 of FA.


Ya think? They just took a $20 million dollar cap hit to keep a 34 YO pitcher because he’s a way better 2019 bet than the $7 million rehab project traded to free up more money to spend. I mean who is really buying that 6 years in, on some random November day, they’re suddenly lost on the media rights deal/s, might be crying poor soon, but still picked up the Hamels option?

That’s a fun offseason davell. Quinn and Minter are excellent bit player pickups for this team and roster, Fried’s got an arm despite my TJ prejudices, added a huge and healthy power armed young talent to the rotation in Gray, and obviously Harper glues it all together. Suarez is a strong MiL arm too, clean healthy IIRC with some excellent performance at young ages. Maybe the names don’t stick but that’s really more or less how I expect the offseason to go down - lots of trades
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:51 pm

The Yankees were out on Harper the second they pulled the trigger on Stanton really. They’re 5 OFers deep including two perrenial AS talents (both RH power hitters!), a switch hitting CF, and an expensive LHH bench both capable of spotting CF. It’s a complete OF already
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Postby Cubswin11 » Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:08 pm

It’s possible something drastically changed with current or future cash projections/availability but a reminder of what Theo said after Darvish. This “Cubs having no money” narrative is all posturing by the FO/idiot writers being idiot writers, IMO.

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Postby Bertz » Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:43 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:It’s possible something drastically changed with current or future cash projections/availability but a reminder of what Theo said after Darvish. This “Cubs having no money” narrative is all posturing by the FO/idiot writers being idiot writers, IMO.



I was looking for that quote earlier but couldn't find it, thanks for posting. I kind of wonder if there's a set payroll, but Ricketts is fine going to another number only for Bryce. Like payroll is 230, but if Theo can reel in Bryce then PTR is willing to go into the 250's. So like, we have the $ for Bryce, but if we miss on him Theo can't just turn around and grab Pollock, Andrew Miller, and David Robertson or whatever else $35m buys.
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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby davell » Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:51 pm

I don't think there's any chance we go to the 250's. Honestly, I think it's extremely likely we stay under the 246 top tier. In fact, I agree we may have 2 separate payroll areas too. 246 or under with Bryce, 226 or under without him.

But, I don't think there's any chance we wind up in the 250's. If by some slim chance we go past the 246 mark, I think we go to at least 265, maybe even 275. It doesn't make sense to be taxed harder and take the pick penalty, unless you take complete advantage of it. Like we did on IFA's before that loophole closed.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:55 pm

Bertz wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:It’s possible something drastically changed with current or future cash projections/availability but a reminder of what Theo said after Darvish. This “Cubs having no money” narrative is all posturing by the FO/idiot writers being idiot writers, IMO.



I was looking for that quote earlier but couldn't find it, thanks for posting. I kind of wonder if there's a set payroll, but Ricketts is fine going to another number only for Bryce. Like payroll is 230, but if Theo can reel in Bryce then PTR is willing to go into the 250's. So like, we have the $ for Bryce, but if we miss on him Theo can't just turn around and grab Pollock, Andrew Miller, and David Robertson or whatever else $35m buys.

I think that’s likely very much the case. You make special accommodations and exceptions for a guy like Bryce and are willing to go to payroll levels your normally wouldn’t unless it’s for him. You don’t go in to that upper level for the A.J. Pollock’s of the world.
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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby Sammy Sofa » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:45 pm

Bryant's Disco Ball wrote:
davell wrote:
Derwood wrote:That reeked of effort


So, try it sometime?


I'm going to give this a try.

Sometime in November/December: Dodgers sign Bryce Harper.


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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby Brian » Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:51 am

DISCLAIMERS

1. I'm not saying this person has real sources or knows anything
2. I haven't even looked into anything he's said since last offseason

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That Charles the Cat account on twitter that was pretty early on the Yu is going to be a Cub and did not waver at all when things were looking like it was not even on the Cubs radar from mainstream sources says this ...
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Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:54 am

I can totally buy PTR2 being a front office smokescreen.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Sun Nov 04, 2018 4:16 am

Charles The Cat was always a man of honor and integrity and shame on those who doubt a man of his track record
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Postby r_mack » Sun Nov 04, 2018 6:30 am

CharlsMeow is absolute garbage
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r_mack wrote:CharlsMeow is absolute garbage


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Postby UMFan83 » Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:18 pm

Kap chimes in



#PTR

If this is true and I’m still dubious I’d be mad that we went after Darvish at the expense of Harper
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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby CyHawk_Cub » Sun Nov 04, 2018 4:07 pm

I've seen some scattered, weird takes from some Cubs fans (who are against signing Harper) that they're "just fine" w/ this "not enough money to sign Harper" scenario. What kind of idiot is actually "just fine" w/ their team not having enough money to sign a superstar?
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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby treebird » Sun Nov 04, 2018 4:20 pm

kaplan is pretty plugged in, that tweet is very concerning. failing to leave money to make harper a real offer will be a good fit in the roster has been mismanaged thread.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Sun Nov 04, 2018 4:34 pm

Heyward, Darvish and Chatwood (and, soon, Hamels) are history's greatest monsters.
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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby davell » Sun Nov 04, 2018 4:35 pm

All of Theo's prior comments have alluded to having funds available for this exact situation. If they don't have them now, I'm damn near certain that Theo got blindsided by Ricketts at the end of the season org meetings, where they discuss budget and all that stuff.
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