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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby Sammy Sofa » Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:19 pm

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David wrote:Eloy is not going to be anything special



I have a hunch the overwhelming majority of Cub fans would love to trade Quintana for Jimenez & Cease.


As a trade chip I'd take him back, sure.


That's pretty much why everyone here wants him back. That's a trade that badly, BADLY needs a do-over.
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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby David » Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:23 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:Based on the sweaty, kinda desperate attempts here to claim otherwise, it's weird how the White Sox system keeps getting rated so highly, I guess.

NSBB sees through the smoke and mirrors; all of the farm systems are actually reversed! The Cubs' is actually top 5 instead of bottom 5!



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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:52 pm

Can't make it past the Wild Card game. Can't beat the White Sox in the Vaunted Prospect Rankings.

Cubs are in mediocrity hell. Either sign Harper or tank.
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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby 17 Seconds » Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:14 pm

I'm miserable during the season sometimes but I'm sure as horsefeathers not going to sit here and suck off the white sox for having a good farm system
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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby Bluescale » Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:17 pm

Hairyducked Idiot wrote:Cubs are in mediocrity hell. Either sign Harper or tank.


A mediocre 95 wins last year...A mediocre 96 wins averaged over the last 4 years. BLOW IT ALL UP!
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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby Backtobanks » Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:27 pm

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David wrote:Eloy is not going to be anything special



I have a hunch the overwhelming majority of Cub fans would love to trade Quintana for Jimenez & Cease.


As a trade chip I'd take him back, sure. As a big league player, he is a DH or a bad corner outfielder.



Sounds like my description of Schwarber two years ago.
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Postby UMFan83 » Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:28 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:Based on the sweaty, kinda desperate attempts here to claim otherwise, it's weird how the White Sox system keeps getting rated so highly, I guess.

NSBB sees through the smoke and mirrors; all of the farm systems are actually reversed! The Cubs' is actually top 5 instead of bottom 5!


I’m reminded of similar comments on CardsTalk as the Cubs prospects were getting close to coming up. Of course those people are morons and we’re slightly less moronic
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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby SouthSideRyan » Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:38 pm

Hairyducked Idiot wrote:Can't make it past the Wild Card game. Can't beat the White Sox in the Vaunted Prospect Rankings.

Cubs are in mediocrity hell. Either sign Harper or tank.


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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby Sammy Sofa » Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:54 pm

17 Seconds wrote:I'm miserable during the season sometimes but I'm sure as horsefeathers not going to sit here and suck off the white sox for having a good farm system


Great, but it's pretty horsefeathering funny to watch people essentially flat out deny they have a good system right now. How many different ways can someone say, "no, no; it actually sucks despite (seemingly) literally every farm ranking" before they just sound crazy.
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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby Cubswin11 » Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:57 pm

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I have a hunch the overwhelming majority of Cub fans would love to trade Quintana for Jimenez & Cease.


As a trade chip I'd take him back, sure. As a big league player, he is a DH or a bad corner outfielder.



Sounds like my description of Schwarber two years ago.

Right, but we had Bryant and Rizzo as our star anchors of 5-8+ WAR guys. Schwarber turning in to a 2-3 (with a ~4 ceiling) WAR player doesn’t hurt us, we obviously want more but as our ~5th best position player it’s fine. The White Sox need Eloy to be that 6-8 WAR player because they don’t have it anywhere else and it’s nearly impossible to be that as a bat only DH/bad defensive Of and base runner type player. The ceiling on that guy is around 4 wins unless he hits like peak Bonds.

I do think he will hit though, but think he tops out at closer to 3 than 5 WAR and he isn’t going to be the superstar so many are anointing him as by default. He also doesn’t walk a ton and he’s had injury issues already.
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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby Cubswin11 » Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:59 pm

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17 Seconds wrote:I'm miserable during the season sometimes but I'm sure as horsefeathers not going to sit here and suck off the white sox for having a good farm system


Great, but it's pretty horsefeathering funny to watch people essentially flat out deny they have a good system right now. How many different ways can someone say, "no, no; it actually sucks despite (seemingly) literally every farm ranking" before they just sound crazy.

They have a nice system right now but there’s a lot of pitchers in it (one of which already blew out in Kopech) and I don’t see the Bryant type prospect that will anchor things to lead to a turn around. It seems like more depth and complimentary pieces than stars. Which is good to have, but they need stats to finish the turn around.
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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby Sammy Sofa » Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:06 pm

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17 Seconds wrote:I'm miserable during the season sometimes but I'm sure as horsefeathers not going to sit here and suck off the white sox for having a good farm system


Great, but it's pretty horsefeathering funny to watch people essentially flat out deny they have a good system right now. How many different ways can someone say, "no, no; it actually sucks despite (seemingly) literally every farm ranking" before they just sound crazy.

They have a nice system right now but there’s a lot of pitchers in it (one of which already blew out in Kopech) and I don’t see the Bryant type prospect that will anchor things to lead to a turn around. It seems like more depth and complimentary pieces than stars. Which is good to have, but they need stats to finish the turn around.


Now how could they dramatically alleviate such a situation...
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Postby Cubswin11 » Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:13 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:
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Great, but it's pretty horsefeathering funny to watch people essentially flat out deny they have a good system right now. How many different ways can someone say, "no, no; it actually sucks despite (seemingly) literally every farm ranking" before they just sound crazy.

They have a nice system right now but there’s a lot of pitchers in it (one of which already blew out in Kopech) and I don’t see the Bryant type prospect that will anchor things to lead to a turn around. It seems like more depth and complimentary pieces than stars. Which is good to have, but they need stats to finish the turn around.


Now how could they dramatically alleviate such a situation...

Bryce absolutely helps. But they’re still going to have to way over pay him to come to sit around for a few years while everyone develops with no certainty of these prospects and them all like being more 2-3 win guys than anything else and my response was not about Bryce it was just regarding why the White Sox system is good but not great and lacks stars.
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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby Sammy Sofa » Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:17 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:
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Cubswin11 wrote:They have a nice system right now but there’s a lot of pitchers in it (one of which already blew out in Kopech) and I don’t see the Bryant type prospect that will anchor things to lead to a turn around. It seems like more depth and complimentary pieces than stars. Which is good to have, but they need stats to finish the turn around.


Now how could they dramatically alleviate such a situation...

Bryce absolutely helps. But they’re still going to have to way over pay him to come to sit around for a few years while everyone develops with no certainty of these prospects and them all like being more 2-3 win guys than anything else and my response was not about Bryce it was just regarding why the White Sox system is good but not great and lacks stars.


It seems like most of the projections out there are talking about 2020 for them, with occasional talk of surprising in 2019.
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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby Cubswin11 » Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:37 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:
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Now how could they dramatically alleviate such a situation...

Bryce absolutely helps. But they’re still going to have to way over pay him to come to sit around for a few years while everyone develops with no certainty of these prospects and them all like being more 2-3 win guys than anything else and my response was not about Bryce it was just regarding why the White Sox system is good but not great and lacks stars.


It seems like most of the projections out there are talking about 2020 for them, with occasional talk of surprising in 2019.

They’d have to go nuts in FA to surprise this year. Eloy was the only bat above A ball last year for them, Kopech already died and a bunch of their other prospects are pitchers so who knows with them. 2020 seems like the absolute soonest and that’s with a lot of stuff breaking right.
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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby Brian » Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:39 pm

Since it's just as productive as arguing about the White Sox for some reason





And it doesn't really mean anything especially considering he appears to be AZ based, but he is at least pretending to be in Vegas.
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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby Sammy Sofa » Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:55 pm

Mmmm, yeah, if there's anything that's going to lure a team to taking on that horsefeathering millstone of a contract, it's guys like Happ and Schwarber.
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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby Backtobanks » Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:01 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:Mmmm, yeah, if there's anything that's going to lure a team to taking on that horsefeathering millstone of a contract, it's guys like Happ and Schwarber.



Apparently you didn't hear that Schwarber isn't on the trade block, so we'll have to lure a team to take on Heywards contract by using Chatwood, Russell, Duensing, Kintzler, Bote, or Caratini. :lol:
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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby 17 Seconds » Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:06 pm

Backtobanks wrote:
Sammy Sofa wrote:Mmmm, yeah, if there's anything that's going to lure a team to taking on that horsefeathering millstone of a contract, it's guys like Happ and Schwarber.



Apparently you didn't hear that Schwarber isn't on the trade block, so we'll have to lure a team to take on Heywards contract by using Chatwood, Russell, Duensing, Kintzler, Bote, or Caratini. :lol:


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17 Seconds wrote:
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Sammy Sofa wrote:Mmmm, yeah, if there's anything that's going to lure a team to taking on that horsefeathering millstone of a contract, it's guys like Happ and Schwarber.



Apparently you didn't hear that Schwarber isn't on the trade block, so we'll have to lure a team to take on Heywards contract by using Chatwood, Russell, Duensing, Kintzler, Bote, or Caratini. :lol:


It's funny how you disappeared when the cubs were on top of the world and now you're back with a vengeance at the slightest hint of trouble.



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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby Cubswin11 » Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:41 pm

Brian wrote:Since it's just as productive as arguing about the White Sox for some reason





And it doesn't really mean anything especially considering he appears to be AZ based, but he is at least pretending to be in Vegas.

Unfortunately it appears the Cat has been outed

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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

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17 Seconds wrote:
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Sammy Sofa wrote:Mmmm, yeah, if there's anything that's going to lure a team to taking on that horsefeathering millstone of a contract, it's guys like Happ and Schwarber.



Apparently you didn't hear that Schwarber isn't on the trade block, so we'll have to lure a team to take on Heywards contract by using Chatwood, Russell, Duensing, Kintzler, Bote, or Caratini. :lol:


It's funny how you disappeared when the cubs were on top of the world and now you're back with a vengeance at the slightest hint of trouble.



I never disappeared as you keep claiming, but what is this trouble that you talk about? I see posters claiming we're a 95 win team without making any moves. We just need Harper to put the cherry on top of the cupcake.
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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:58 pm

Bluescale wrote:
Hairyducked Idiot wrote:Cubs are in mediocrity hell. Either sign Harper or tank.


A mediocre 95 wins last year...A mediocre 96 wins averaged over the last 4 years. BLOW IT ALL UP!


Average finish since the end of the 2017 season: Behind the Milwaukee Brewers.
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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby Gmoney08 » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:09 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:
Brian wrote:Since it's just as productive as arguing about the White Sox for some reason





And it doesn't really mean anything especially considering he appears to be AZ based, but he is at least pretending to be in Vegas.

Unfortunately it appears the Cat has been outed



I cant believe I googled Barry Manilow Vegas to try and verify if something named CharlestheCat was lying about being in Vegas.

But, I did.. and Manilow had a return tour in Vegas through October and is back again in 2019.. so a Manilow advertisement is very lucky.

So CtheCat still good, and Harper to Cubs done deal is what this means.
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Re: The Bryce is Right, Bitch

Postby Gmoney08 » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:10 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:
Brian wrote:Since it's just as productive as arguing about the White Sox for some reason





And it doesn't really mean anything especially considering he appears to be AZ based, but he is at least pretending to be in Vegas.

Unfortunately it appears the Cat has been outed



I cant believe I googled Barry Manilow Vegas to try and verify if something named CharlestheCat was lying about being in Vegas.

But, I did.. and Manilow had a return tour in Vegas through October and is back again in 2019.. so a Manilow advertisement is very lucky.

So CtheCat still good, and Harper to Cubs done deal is what this means.
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