Cubs trade for Caleb Smith from NYY via MIL in rule 5

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Cubs trade for Caleb Smith from NYY via MIL in rule 5

Postby jersey cubs fan » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:57 pm

http://www.baseball-reference.com/regis ... ith-005cal

25 y/0 LHP with decent minor league numbers over 367 innings of mostly starting. Supposedly a long man.
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Re: Cubs trade for Caleb Smith from NYY via MIL in rule 5

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:02 pm

Even with an 8 man pen I'd be surprised if he and Duensing both make the roster.

Does anyone know how hard he throws? Some brief searching didn't turn anything up. Per a Pinstripe alley post he's got decent changeup.
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Re: Cubs trade for Caleb Smith from NYY via MIL in rule 5

Postby jersey cubs fan » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:04 pm

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:Even with an 8 man pen I'd be surprised if he and Duensing both make the roster.

Does anyone know how hard he throws? Some brief searching didn't turn anything up. Per a Pinstripe alley post he's got decent changeup.

The Basics:

Name: Caleb Smith
Age: 22
Draft: 2013 14th round pick out of Sam Houston State
Size: 6-foot-3, 180-pounds
Fastball: 95 mph
Other Pitchers: Slider, Changeup
BBDP Ranking: 48
Position: LHP

http://bronxbaseballdaily.com/2013/10/2 ... leb-smith/
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Re: Cubs trade for Caleb Smith from NYY via MIL in rule 5

Postby jersey cubs fan » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:06 pm

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http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/ ... -1.9106954

ampa (A+) (6-2, 175)
BORN: July 28, 1991 | DRAFTED: 14th round (2013)
MOST LIKELY OUTCOME: Middle relief
ETA: 2017
NOTES: Caleb Smith features a mid-90s fastball, slider and changeup. Has reverse platoon splits and will need to be as dominating against lefthanders as he is against righthanders in order to succeed as a starter. He also possesses better control when facing righthanders.
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Re: Cubs trade for Caleb Smith from NYY via MIL in rule 5

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:14 pm

Wow, those reverse splits are bizarre. I bet that's what makes him a decent target, he's already pretty good at the hard part so if they can find a way to tweak his slider or something to help him against same sided hitters, that's a pretty decent option.
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Re: Cubs trade for Caleb Smith from NYY via MIL in rule 5

Postby JeffH » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:21 pm

Just FYI...

The player link in the mlbtraderumors.com article points to the wrong Caleb Smith.

The right guy (as correctly shown in the initial post in this thread):

http://www.baseball-reference.com/regis ... ith-005cal
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Re: Cubs trade for Caleb Smith from NYY via MIL in rule 5

Postby champaignchris » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:18 pm

So how does this work? Milwaukee drafted Smith in the Rule 5 and then traded him to the Cubs? We know for what?

Same Rule 5 rules apply even though he was traded? If he doesn't make the Cubs roster, the Yankees can take him back?
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Re: Cubs trade for Caleb Smith from NYY via MIL in rule 5

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:21 pm

champaignchris wrote:So how does this work? Milwaukee drafted Smith in the Rule 5 and then traded him to the Cubs? We know for what?

Same Rule 5 rules apply even though he was traded? If he doesn't make the Cubs roster, the Yankees can take him back?


Same Rule 5 rules apply to Smith on the Cubs. I haven't seen what was traded, but in most cases it's a small amount of cash.
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Re: Cubs trade for Caleb Smith from NYY via MIL in rule 5

Postby Little Slide Rooter » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:28 pm

One day, Brewer fans will have debate on why they gave him up for nothing despite the fact that he was never in their plans.
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Re: Cubs trade for Caleb Smith from NYY via MIL in rule 5

Postby Tim » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:39 pm

Little Slide Rooter wrote:One day, Brewer fans will have debate on why they gave him up for nothing despite the fact that he was never in their plans.

He'll be their Josh Hamilton.
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Re: Cubs trade for Caleb Smith from NYY via MIL in rule 5

Postby jersey cubs fan » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:57 pm

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:
champaignchris wrote:So how does this work? Milwaukee drafted Smith in the Rule 5 and then traded him to the Cubs? We know for what?

Same Rule 5 rules apply even though he was traded? If he doesn't make the Cubs roster, the Yankees can take him back?


Same Rule 5 rules apply to Smith on the Cubs. I haven't seen what was traded, but in most cases it's a small amount of cash.

it was stated to be a cash consideration, perhaps part of the world series share
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