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Re: Random In-season Musings and Rumors

Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:22 pm

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:

Is Gonzalez hurt or is he playing the OF?
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Re: Random In-season Musings and Rumors

Postby Liam Neeson » Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:35 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:
CaliforniaRaisin wrote:

Is Gonzalez hurt or is he playing the OF?


Looks like LF.
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Re: Random In-season Musings and Rumors

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:39 pm

Liam Neeson wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:
CaliforniaRaisin wrote:

Is Gonzalez hurt or is he playing the OF?


Looks like LF.


Joc is hurt.
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Re: Random In-season Musings and Rumors

Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:10 pm

man, the Dodgers keep calling up young stud position players. oh wait, that's the Cubs
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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby mikeyt34 » Mon May 01, 2017 10:57 pm

Interesting article by Buster Olney about the availability of several starters come trade deadline. Not that the Cubs will be in the market for one. Interesting names mentioned, especially Gerrit Cole, I can't really fathom the price tag he would carry but it would start with Eloy at least. Only pitcher I would be willing to go all-in-on would be Chris Archer (still has 4 years left on his team friendly deal), but Olney doesn't even have him listed.

http://www.espn.com/blog/buster-olney/i ... -be-traded
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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Mon May 01, 2017 11:13 pm

Greinke is the name that piqued my interest. Some interesting considerations with him but could turn out very well if they line up.

EDIT: This is also a topic better for Transactions, I'll move it there.
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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby Cubswin11 » Mon May 01, 2017 11:34 pm

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:Greinke is the name that piqued my interest. Some interesting considerations with him but could turn out very well if they line up.

EDIT: This is also a topic better for Transactions, I'll move it there.

Yeah Greinke is a guy who really interests me. Obviously they have to eat some of his salary but I like him as a target. Kinda want Stroman or bust though.
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Re: Random In-season Musings and Rumors

Postby TomtheBombadil » Mon May 01, 2017 11:42 pm

Greinke was the name that stuck out for me as well, but will hold strong for the Stroman pipedream.
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Re: Random In-season Musings and Rumors

Postby Gilby » Mon May 01, 2017 11:46 pm

I'm basically penciling in a Candelario for Marco Estrada swap sometime in June.

I'd love a Archer/Quintana/Stroman, but in the end I don't see Theo paying the price.
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Re: General Cubs Chit-Chat

Postby mikeyt34 » Mon May 01, 2017 11:48 pm

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:Greinke is the name that piqued my interest. Some interesting considerations with him but could turn out very well if they line up.

EDIT: This is also a topic better for Transactions, I'll move it there.


Cool. I thought I should have put this in transactions after I hit submit. Anyways, yeah Greinke is interesting but with the Diamondbacks playing pretty well I think by the trade deadline they will be in at least contention for a wild card spot so they may want to hang on to him.
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Re: Random In-season Musings and Rumors

Postby Cubswin11 » Mon May 01, 2017 11:50 pm

Gilby wrote:I'm basically penciling in a Candelario for Marco Estrada swap sometime in June.

Gross
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Re: Random In-season Musings and Rumors

Postby mikeyt34 » Tue May 02, 2017 12:02 am

Gilby wrote:I'm basically penciling in a Candelario for Marco Estrada swap sometime in June.

I'd love a Archer/Quintana/Stroman, but in the end I don't see Theo paying the price.


I could live with that deal, not sure Candelario alone would be enough though. You're probably right about the other 3, it would cost at least Happ or Eloy in a package.
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Re: Random In-season Musings and Rumors

Postby davell » Tue May 02, 2017 12:18 am

mikeyt34 wrote:
Gilby wrote:I'm basically penciling in a Candelario for Marco Estrada swap sometime in June.

I'd love a Archer/Quintana/Stroman, but in the end I don't see Theo paying the price.


I could live with that deal, not sure Candelario alone would be enough though. You're probably right about the other 3, it would cost at least Happ or Eloy in a package.


I'd be shocked if it didn't cost both, for either of them. We have no shot at Quintana anyway.
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Re: Random In-season Musings and Rumors

Postby Derwood » Tue May 02, 2017 12:56 am

Any chance we trade for Verlander?
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Re: Random In-season Musings and Rumors

Postby Cubswin11 » Tue May 02, 2017 1:03 am

Derwood wrote:Any chance we trade for Verlander?

He's def be on my short list
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Re: Random In-season Musings and Rumors

Postby davell » Tue May 02, 2017 1:16 am

4/138.5 left for Greinke, AFTER this season. That for his 34-37 year old seasons.

2/56 left for Verlander at 35,36 year old seasons.

Verlander fits much better on all levels.
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Re: Random In-season Musings and Rumors

Postby We Got The Whole 9 » Tue May 02, 2017 3:17 am

If Detroit falls out if it by July a Verlander/Wilson package would be my top choice, as far as what we could realistically obtain.



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Re: Random In-season Musings and Rumors

Postby TomtheBombadil » Tue May 02, 2017 4:10 pm

horsefeathers yes to Verlander
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Re: Random In-season Musings and Rumors

Postby sneakypower » Tue May 02, 2017 6:11 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote:will hold strong for the Stroman pipedream.

never gonna happen; one could even call that a stroman fallacy
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Re: Random In-season Musings and Rumors

Postby Cubswin11 » Tue May 02, 2017 6:22 pm

sneakypower wrote:
TomtheBombadil wrote:will hold strong for the Stroman pipedream.

never gonna happen; one could even call that a stroman fallacy

Why so? Just because you don't think we'd pay the cost? Their competitive window seems to be shut, they have a roster of aging/expensive players and trading Stroman could be a jumpstart to a reboot.
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Re: Random In-season Musings and Rumors

Postby davell » Tue May 02, 2017 6:42 pm

I think we'll bandaid our starting pitching thru trades, to be honest. We'll sign a high dollar guy and we'll get as creative as we can to try and nab Otani.

But, I think the trades we'll see for SP's will be for the back end types that don't cost much of a return and more tries on guys like Butler.
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Re: Random In-season Musings and Rumors

Postby Liam Neeson » Tue May 02, 2017 6:53 pm

davell wrote:4/138.5 left for Greinke, AFTER this season. That for his 34-37 year old seasons.

2/56 left for Verlander at 35,36 year old seasons.

Verlander fits much better on all levels.


Since Verlander has 10 and 5 no trade rights could he hold out until the other team picks agrees to pick up that 2020 vested option?

So that would mean 3/78 and be 37 going into his last year.
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Re: Random In-season Musings and Rumors

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Tue May 02, 2017 6:59 pm

Is Verlander going to be that much cheaper in terms of prospects someone like Stroman?
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Re: Random In-season Musings and Rumors

Postby sneakypower » Tue May 02, 2017 7:00 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:
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TomtheBombadil wrote:will hold strong for the Stroman pipedream.

never gonna happen; one could even call that a stroman fallacy

Why so? Just because you don't think we'd pay the cost? Their competitive window seems to be shut, they have a roster of aging/expensive players and trading Stroman could be a jumpstart to a reboot.

i just wanted to make a bad joke

but i think conversations start with Schwarber there, and this FO wouldn't relinquish him for pitching imo
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Re: Random In-season Musings and Rumors

Postby TomtheBombadil » Tue May 02, 2017 9:13 pm

Speaking of the Blue Jays - Guerrero Jr. looks like a monster hitter in the making. One of those guys who could be in the majors at 20? As an 18 YO in full season ball he is hitting .348 with a .217 IsoSLG and a K rate somewhere around 13-14% through 85 PAs. He's even stolen a base.
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