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Cubs trade Eloy, Cease, others for Quintana

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Re: Cubs trade Eloy, Cease, others for Quintana

Postby TomtheBombadil » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:28 pm

Solid, but no second piece?
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Postby Post Count Padder » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:29 pm

What. The. F---.
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Re: Cubs trade Eloy, Cease, others for Quintana

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Re: Cubs trade Eloy, Cease, others for Quintana

Postby squally1313 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:30 pm

SOMEONE TELL ME HOW I SHOULD FEEL
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Re: Cubs trade Eloy, Cease, others for Quintana

Postby The_Achiever » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:30 pm

I like it but man I was excited for Eloy to come up and crush dongs.
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Re: Cubs trade Eloy, Cease, others for Quintana

Postby SRQCub » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:30 pm

Now let's figure out how to get Fulmer from Detroit, and let's make another run at the Championship.
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Re: Cubs trade Eloy, Cease, others for Quintana

Postby ZMovieman » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:31 pm

I mean, I'm excited. But I'm not sure how to feel. I'm ok with Eloy going, but I'd have preferred not to package Cease with him.
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Re: Cubs trade Eloy, Cease, others for Quintana

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:31 pm

squally1313 wrote:SOMEONE TELL ME HOW I SHOULD FEEL


Sad about losing Eloy, very happy about getting Quintana
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Re: Cubs trade Eloy, Cease, others for Quintana

Postby javy knows my name » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:32 pm

I horsefeathering love this. We lose 0 major league talent for a top-20 pitcher with 3? more years of control
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Re: Cubs trade Eloy, Cease, others for Quintana

Postby Guancous » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:32 pm

Quintana is owed something like $35 million through 2020. I am okay with this.

http://www.spotrac.com/mlb/chicago-whit ... ana-10660/
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Re: Cubs trade Eloy, Cease, others for Quintana

Postby Post Count Padder » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:33 pm

Like, I love getting Quintana. I don't love giving up both Eloy and Cease. Wish we could have at least gotten a secondary piece.
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Re: Cubs trade Eloy, Cease, others for Quintana

Postby Flames24Rulz » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:34 pm

I like it a lot. Nice to have a young starter who's under control for a while and who can make a difference in the second half of this year.
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Re: Cubs trade Eloy, Cease, others for Quintana

Postby TomtheBombadil » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:35 pm

I've already worked it out in my head that Eloy is an A ball COF struggling to hit for average in High A despite hitting more groundballs this year. Cease is way easier since the arm surgery ruined him for me.
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Re: Cubs trade Eloy, Cease, others for Quintana

Postby TomtheBombadil » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:36 pm

Oh, they also didn't move any of the Candelario/Zagunis/Caratini/etc crowd so there's plenty of room for another major trade.
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Re: Cubs trade Eloy, Cease, others for Quintana

Postby mul21 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:37 pm

I like the concept of the deal but not sure I like the amount given up. Now somebody tell me why Quintana has been bad this year and how we're going to fix him.
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Re: Cubs trade Eloy, Cease, others for Quintana

Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:38 pm

Screw prospects
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Re: Cubs trade Eloy, Cease, others for Quintana

Postby Post Count Padder » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:41 pm

I DO love though that we have Quintana through 2020, and the secondary pieces in the deal are basically roster filler. So we can still trade Jeimer and Zagunis and Almora/Happ for another piece before the deadline.

What does this make our top 10 look like now?
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Re: Cubs trade Eloy, Cease, others for Quintana

Postby Tim » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:41 pm

I'm okay with trading away Eloy + Cease. But I more like Quintana than love him.
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Re: Cubs trade Eloy, Cease, others for Quintana

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:41 pm

mul21 wrote:I like the concept of the deal but not sure I like the amount given up. Now somebody tell me why Quintana has been bad this year and how we're going to fix him.


Quintana has better peripherals than his performance this year, and a big chunk of his struggles are from a slow start(maybe the WBC impacted how he prepped?), and everything I said about Fulmer applies equally to Quintana. AL to NL, crap framing catchers to above average, and better defense(Sox are better than the Tigers here so the impact is smaller).
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Re: Cubs trade Eloy, Cease, others for Quintana

Postby squally1313 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:42 pm

mul21 wrote:I like the concept of the deal but not sure I like the amount given up. Now somebody tell me why Quintana has been bad this year and how we're going to fix him.

Jump in K rate and walk rate, both career highs, and a weird uptick in HR/FB with no corresponding change in batted ball profile (also has doubled his infield fly ball rate).

The walk rate is concerning, but he's proven he can be a top 10 pitcher with a 7-8 K/9, and he's at 9.4/9 now. Focus on the strike zone a little more against weaker hitters with a better defense, hope the HR rate drops back down to his norms, and he should be just fine.
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Re: Cubs trade Eloy, Cease, others for Quintana

Postby shnsajax » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:42 pm

mul21 wrote:I like the concept of the deal but not sure I like the amount given up. Now somebody tell me why Quintana has been bad this year and how we're going to fix him.


This is my scare of this trade. That and the loss of dongs.
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Re: Cubs trade Eloy, Cease, others for Quintana

Postby Bobson Dugnutt » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:42 pm

mul21 wrote:I like the concept of the deal but not sure I like the amount given up. Now somebody tell me why Quintana has been bad this year and how we're going to fix him.


He's been much better recently. 2.70 ERA since the start of June.
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Re: Cubs trade Eloy, Cease, others for Quintana

Postby PetermanRealityTour » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:42 pm

They probably stole him from Milwaukee as well.

Good Move.
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Re: Cubs trade Eloy, Cease, others for Quintana

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:43 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote:I've already worked it out in my head that Eloy is an A ball COF struggling to hit for average in High A despite hitting more groundballs this year. Cease is way easier since the arm surgery ruined him for me.


I'm really wishing I had verbalized that I was starting to worry about Eloy's lack of average. That hit tool was supposed to be the thing that made him more Miggy than Soler, but I promise this isn't hindsight. Also the repeated injuries on a big dude aren't great harbingers. Still pains me to lose him, but at least it's for a target I love.
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