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Postby SCCubbieFAN » Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:48 pm

I saw an article a few days ago about the BOSOX showing interest in Abreu from the ChiSOX in exchange for JBJr. Said the BOSOX were looking for more power. What are y'alls thoughts on swapping Schwarber for JBJr? I've always been a huge JBJr. fan after watching him play his college ball here, and I lobbied for the Cubs going after him instead of signing Heyward but was thrilled just the same when Heyward signed.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby Backtobanks » Sat Dec 02, 2017 5:13 pm

SCCubbieFAN wrote:I saw an article a few days ago about the BOSOX showing interest in Abreu from the ChiSOX in exchange for JBJr. Said the BOSOX were looking for more power. What are y'alls thoughts on swapping Schwarber for JBJr? I've always been a huge JBJr. fan after watching him play his college ball here, and I lobbied for the Cubs going after him instead of signing Heyward but was thrilled just the same when Heyward signed.


The Sox will get JBJr. + a whole lot more for Abreu. I wouldn't mind the deal, but I think Almora is just as good or better as a CF, so unless this is tied to another deal I don't see it happening.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Sat Dec 02, 2017 5:26 pm

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SCCubbieFAN wrote:I saw an article a few days ago about the BOSOX showing interest in Abreu from the ChiSOX in exchange for JBJr. Said the BOSOX were looking for more power. What are y'alls thoughts on swapping Schwarber for JBJr? I've always been a huge JBJr. fan after watching him play his college ball here, and I lobbied for the Cubs going after him instead of signing Heyward but was thrilled just the same when Heyward signed.


The Sox will get JBJr. + a whole lot more for Abreu. I wouldn't mind the deal, but I think Almora is just as good or better as a CF, so unless this is tied to another deal I don't see it happening.


No, the White Sox are not going to get JBJ alone for Abreu, who is a slightly above average first baseman getting near market rates for his age 31 and 32 seasons.

As for trading for JBJ, I like him as a player, but I don't see a whole lot of point when he's a slightly better version of Almora. You definitely don't trade Schwarber for him.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby NOLA » Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:33 pm

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The Logan wrote:I seem to recall Cardinal fans saying they'd rather have Diaz than Russell. That makes me laugh.


Grichuk > Bryant


Grichuk is also definitely getting moved this offseason. I think Piscotty might get traded too. What will Cardinals fans say then lol?

I’m really fascinated by their pursuit of Giancarlo. If they don’t get him I could see them unofficially tanking 2018. No way they’re better than 3rd in the NLC.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby davell » Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:38 pm

JBJ just isn't a great fit for the Cubs. I feel oddly confident Almora is going to be very solid going forward. My guess is the Cubs do too.

That said, you're getting Abreu and much more, for JBJ. Not the other way around.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby Backtobanks » Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:48 pm

davell wrote:JBJ just isn't a great fit for the Cubs. I feel oddly confident Almora is going to be very solid going forward. My guess is the Cubs do too.

That said, you're getting Abreu and much more, for JBJ. Not the other way around.


Yeah, I think Almora is going to be our CF for quite a few years.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby davell » Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:27 am



Holy horsefeathers. A move! Not a Cubs move, but a move nonetheless.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:32 am

davell wrote:https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/937868682373550081

Holy horsefeathers. A move! Not a Cubs move, but a move nonetheless.

I wonder if they plan on using him as a starter or reliever, if it’s as a starter that could be an indication they are out on Otani
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby davell » Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:43 am

Cubswin11 wrote:
davell wrote:https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/937868682373550081

Holy horsefeathers. A move! Not a Cubs move, but a move nonetheless.

I wonder if they plan on using him as a starter or reliever, if it’s as a starter that could be an indication they are out on Otani


They are evidently going to use him as a starter. But, they've not even presented yet. They're not out on him. Plus, they've got multiple holes in their rotation anyway.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:17 am

Cubswin11 wrote:
davell wrote:https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/937868682373550081

Holy horsefeathers. A move! Not a Cubs move, but a move nonetheless.

I wonder if they plan on using him as a starter or reliever, if it’s as a starter that could be an indication they are out on Otani


Or they could use him like the Cubs have used Montgomery to help them go to a 6-man rotation.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby davell » Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:23 am



Its about damn time. Let's sign some damn guys.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby davell » Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:26 pm



Second potential target off the board.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby davell » Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:28 pm



He's was mostly projected at 2/10 or 2/12. Might be an indication on prices.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:33 pm

Heyman says 2/$15.5 million.

I was very interested in him as a 5th starter.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby Tryptamine » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:42 pm

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:Heyman says 2/$15.5 million.

I was very interested in him as a 5th starter.


Agreed, if Ohtani happens to not work out where they have to grab Cobb and someone else, Mikolas was neck and neck with Chatwood for me.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby TomtheBombadil » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:55 pm

What are the chances everyone already knows who got Ohtani and that is why signings are coming out?
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby jersey cubs fan » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:07 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote:What are the chances everyone already knows who got Ohtani and that is why signings are coming out?

the odds that everybody knows and nobody is leaking are extremely low.

the extremely low cost of Ohtani also means he's not really holding everything up
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby Banedon » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:14 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote:What are the chances everyone already knows who got Ohtani and that is why signings are coming out?


I'd take odds that even he doesn't know where he's signing yet.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby TomtheBombadil » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:26 pm

jersey cubs fan wrote:
TomtheBombadil wrote:What are the chances everyone already knows who got Ohtani and that is why signings are coming out?

the odds that everybody knows and nobody is leaking are extremely low.

the extremely low cost of Ohtani also means he's not really holding everything up


Agreed

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I like the Rangers’ move of signing Minor for the rotation. Just my steaming hot take but sometimes a pitcher just needs some bullpen time (or shorter outings) to tune up the delivery and approach.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:39 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote:What are the chances everyone already knows who got Ohtani and that is why signings are coming out?

I could see the Mikolas signing by the Cardinals somewhat being a byproduct of this, not that they know where Ohtani is going just that they knew they were out so moved on to another option
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby PackLandVA » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:17 am

Banedon wrote:
TomtheBombadil wrote:What are the chances everyone already knows who got Ohtani and that is why signings are coming out?


I'd take odds that even he doesn't know where he's signing yet.



I thought the Cubs just presented earlier today???
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:20 am

Wily Peralta got a major league deal with the Royals, he’s been a guy I’ve liked for a while to try and turn in to a relief pitcher on a minor league deal. Didn’t think there was any way he’d get a major league deal.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby Cubswin11 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:48 pm

Really, really, really, really smart visionary, Aj Preller, wants to spend a 9 figure deal on the easiest position to fill in MLB to sign Eric Hosmer who’s been worth literally 0, 3.5, -.1 and 4.1 fWAR the last 4 years. So smart.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby bd811 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:56 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:Really, really, really, really smart visionary, Aj Preller, wants to spend a 9 figure deal on the easiest position to fill in MLB to sign Eric Hosmer who’s been worth literally 0, 3.5, -.1 and 4.1 fWAR the last 4 years. So smart.


#savvy
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby David » Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:01 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:Really, really, really, really smart visionary, Aj Preller, wants to spend a 9 figure deal on the easiest position to fill in MLB to sign Eric Hosmer who’s been worth literally 0, 3.5, -.1 and 4.1 fWAR the last 4 years. So smart.


Probably smarter than trading for Matt Kemp. #progress #savvy #savvyprogress
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