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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby Backtobanks » Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:08 pm

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:Russell is a career +13 UZR at SS while Baez is a career +1. I don't think that's the gospel truth, but there's a significant gap. Baez's 2016 and end of 2017 have obscured perceptions because 1) like most he's much better at 2B and that's where most of his defensive wizardry has been 2) he has higher highs and lower lows in terms of the plays he does and doesn't make


I agree with some of what you posted, but Baez has been moved around as a very young player. I think if he was put at SS permanently, you would see him settle in to become an excellent defender in addition to the weekly highlight reel play. Obviously, if the Baez and Russell are both on the team, you don't mess with what works.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby Banedon » Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:18 pm

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/red_ ... lo_stanton

A baseball source said yesterday that he’s been told Stanton will not accept a trade to either the Red Sox or the Cardinals


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Postby TBS Playoffs Insider » Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:20 am

Banedon wrote:http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox/2017/11/jennings_dont_bet_on_red_sox_trading_for_giancarlo_stanton

A baseball source said yesterday that he’s been told Stanton will not accept a trade to either the Red Sox or the Cardinals


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its all fun and games until the dodgers trade joc pederson and some trash A-ball guys for stanton in late january.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:09 am

TBS Playoffs Insider wrote:
Banedon wrote:http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox/2017/11/jennings_dont_bet_on_red_sox_trading_for_giancarlo_stanton

A baseball source said yesterday that he’s been told Stanton will not accept a trade to either the Red Sox or the Cardinals


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its all fun and games until the dodgers trade joc pederson and some trash A-ball guys for stanton in late january.


Yep, I'm with imb. The Dodgers better not get Stanton or Ohtani.

MLB.com: Source: Dodgers in mix on Stanton talks
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby 17 Seconds » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:25 pm

haha i just remembered that the dodgers got to within 1 win of a world series and came away with nothing
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby David » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:28 pm

The Dodgers aren't in our division. I really don't give a rat's ass who they get. And they're going to be really good regardless.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby David » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:29 pm

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
TBS Playoffs Insider wrote:
Banedon wrote:http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox/2017/11/jennings_dont_bet_on_red_sox_trading_for_giancarlo_stanton



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its all fun and games until the dodgers trade joc pederson and some trash A-ball guys for stanton in late january.


Yep, I'm with imb. The Dodgers better not get Stanton or Ohtani.

MLB.com: Source: Dodgers in mix on Stanton talks


I'm going to chalk this up to your Dodger hate from being a non Dodger fan living in LA. The Dodgers improving by a win or two (if they do) is going to have a negligible impact on our championship hopes. It's a massively better outcome than him going to St. Louis.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby champaignchris » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:06 pm

David wrote:I'm going to chalk this up to your Dodger hate from being a non Dodger fan living in LA. The Dodgers improving by a win or two (if they do) is going to have a negligible impact on our championship hopes. It's a massively better outcome than him going to St. Louis.


I guess you could go the other way in thinking on it... The Cubs are about 32 games better than the Cardinals over the last 2 1/2 seasons. Will Giancarlo Stanton make a big enough difference for the Cardinals? Or could taking on a lodestone of a contract and trading away prospects just as the Cubs' cost-controlled superstars enter their prime years be the exact type of thing we should be hoping the Cardinals do?

Obviously, the question hinges on how much of the contract the Cards have to take on and how much they have to empty their system of prospects.

I don't think it can be overstated how ugly Stanton's contract has the potential to be. He'll still be owed $180M five years from now after he turns 33!
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby Banedon » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:55 pm

champaignchris wrote:
David wrote:I'm going to chalk this up to your Dodger hate from being a non Dodger fan living in LA. The Dodgers improving by a win or two (if they do) is going to have a negligible impact on our championship hopes. It's a massively better outcome than him going to St. Louis.


I guess you could go the other way in thinking on it... The Cubs are about 32 games better than the Cardinals over the last 2 1/2 seasons. Will Giancarlo Stanton make a big enough difference for the Cardinals? Or could taking on a lodestone of a contract and trading away prospects just as the Cubs' cost-controlled superstars enter their prime years be the exact type of thing we should be hoping the Cardinals do?

Obviously, the question hinges on how much of the contract the Cards have to take on and how much they have to empty their system of prospects.

I don't think it can be overstated how ugly Stanton's contract has the potential to be. He'll still be owed $180M five years from now after he turns 33!


The Cardinals are in the division. Keep the good players away from them.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:16 pm

Stanton to the Dodgers keeps them out of the Harper sweepstakes next year most likely
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby Banedon » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:36 pm



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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby Post Count Padder » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:16 pm

The Mariners announced that they’ve acquired first baseman Ryon Healy from the division-rival Athletics in exchange for right-hander Emilio Pagan and minor league infielder Alexander Campos.


Good return for the A's. Campos was a big IFA signing and Pagan had a really good season as a reliever.

Also means Vogelbach is kept buried on the depth chart.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:35 pm

Banedon wrote:https://twitter.com/bnicholsonsmith/status/931194473513734145

A few NSBBers might make good GM's after all.


Jed Hoyer surely sends some sort of spanking it GIFs.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby Banedon » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:39 pm

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
Banedon wrote:https://twitter.com/bnicholsonsmith/status/931194473513734145

A few NSBBers might make good GM's after all.


Jed Hoyer surely sends some sort of spanking it GIFs.


Surely.

Although, "That's what the money is for" is the first one I thought of that must get used a lot.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:17 pm

Banedon wrote:https://twitter.com/bnicholsonsmith/status/931194473513734145

A few NSBBers might make good GM's after all.

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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby Cubswin11 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:23 pm

Banedon wrote:https://twitter.com/bnicholsonsmith/status/931194473513734145

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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby Cubswin11 » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:28 am

The Giants made an offer for Stanton and are willing to take on a good chunk of his contract according to Rosenthal
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby MWV » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:40 am

Cubswin11 wrote:The Giants made an offer for Stanton and are willing to take on a good chunk of his contract according to Rosenthal

Given that the Cubs aren't getting him, I could definitely live with Stanton in San Francisco.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby Derwood » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:41 am

Is it weird that Stanton reportedly won't waive his NTC for Boston? I'd think he would make the Green Monster his bitch
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby d_money » Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:41 pm

MWV wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:The Giants made an offer for Stanton and are willing to take on a good chunk of his contract according to Rosenthal

Given that the Cubs aren't getting him, I could definitely live with Stanton in San Francisco.

Wait...you're gonna live with Stanton in SF? :)

If he goes to StL, the contract would impact them for many years, especially if they have to give up a couple pitching prospects. They wouldn't be big on any future FA signings either. He also needs to stay healthy.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby toonsterwu » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:22 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:The Giants made an offer for Stanton and are willing to take on a good chunk of his contract according to Rosenthal


That's the one team all along that was likely to eat most of the contract. Problem is, will the Marlins settle, prospect wise? Heliot Ramos is probably their most intriguing upside candidate, with Steven Duggar a close 2nd perhaps. There just isn't much unless one really likes Christian Arroyo.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby TomtheBombadil » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:57 pm

toonsterwu wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:The Giants made an offer for Stanton and are willing to take on a good chunk of his contract according to Rosenthal


That's the one team all along that was likely to eat most of the contract. Problem is, will the Marlins settle, prospect wise? Heliot Ramos is probably their most intriguing upside candidate, with Steven Duggar a close 2nd perhaps. There just isn't much unless one really likes Christian Arroyo.


If the Giants are taking on that contract maybe Ramos and some pitchers is all it takes.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:33 am

d_money wrote:
MWV wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:The Giants made an offer for Stanton and are willing to take on a good chunk of his contract according to Rosenthal

Given that the Cubs aren't getting him, I could definitely live with Stanton in San Francisco.

Wait...you're gonna live with Stanton in SF? :)

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