Transmogrified Tiger wrote:toonsterwu wrote:So to make this a discussion then ... which FA SP's would you go with then? I know you've mentioned it elsewhere ... but let's say Cobb doesn't sign. I'm scared to heck (as scared as I can be I guess) of Lynn. I think that's a train wreck waiting to happen. I just don't see much else in that 2nd tier that I really am positive about. Cobb, yes.
Cobb is an easy one. I'd be willing to make the 5th starter more speculative(e.g. a Montgomery-esque trade, an FA like Hellickson/Vargas) if it meant they were able to get Darvish and make 1-4 in the rotation that strong. I'm open to signing Chatwood but I don't think the front office is going to be a big believer(I've outlined earlier the walks are a big deal). The specter of Otani looms a bit here too. Most importantly though, I think the trade market for Happ or Happ-headlined packages is able to get you a SP with a higher ceiling than Samardzija, a better contract situation, or both.
If the Cubs are willing to spend on Darvish or get Otani, then yes, that's the preferable route.
I don't really care for Chatwood. Honestly, if they are going Chatwood (and I don't expect them to), give me Wade Miley on a short and/or incentive-laden, deal.
So yes, I don't disagree that I would hope to net someone younger with potential (I'd argue that Samardzija is much better than people think and to say higher ceiling, the only thing would be to get someone younger as few guys clearly better than Shark now aren't going to be moved) if moving Happ, but you eventually run into the problem that ... most teams are over-protective of their young arms. Eventually, you run into very few teams that seem to make sense (a straight swap of Taijuan Walker for Ian Happ, on paper, makes sense for both sides, but all indications are that the Diamondbacks, despite their rotationd epth, won't move Walker (with the obvious caveat of if it's too stupid to pass up, Hazen probably wouldn't)). In this window, the Cubs probably aren't going to target high level prospects to fill holes, so we eventually run into the problem of who? Carlos Rodon might make some sense (depending on his medicals) and that's an org that's willing to move guys. I half thought about Blake Snell, but he had a superb 2nd half amidst reports that he was starting to learn and adjust.
So there is that think layer of Stroman/Archer, but those two would take far more than Happ, in all likelihood, and I'm not sure either team is ready to move either one yet.