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Re: Where will Giancar-go?

Postby David » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:26 am

toonsterwu wrote:Giancarlo has leverage to try and force his way to the Dodgers, but it's hard for me to see Friedman taking on any major portion of that salary, which is what the Marlins want. If the Marlins stay firm with their threat to move other assets like Ozuna/Yelich/Realmuto and leave Stanton on a bad team, then it'll be in Stanton's court to see if he's willing to stick it out.

At the end of the day, I think Stanton sucks it up and goes to the Giants. Just hard to see him wanting to stick it out there. Of course, maybe he has doubts about the Giants viability long run ....

What did I miss? Since when is he not willing to go to SF?

I've know heard he's reluctant to go to St Louis
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Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:35 am

I don't think he's not willing to go to the Giants, he just wants to go to the Dodgers more and is trying to drag things out for them to get involved
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Postby 17 Seconds » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:45 am

i think i remember a verified person on twitter saying that sf is one of his preferred options
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Postby shnsajax » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:52 am

Cubswin11 wrote:I don't think he's not willing to go to the Giants, he just wants to go to the Dodgers more and is trying to drag things out for them to get involved


This. Eventually he will approve to the Giants, just not sure when.
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Postby ScrubMD » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:59 pm

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Cubswin11 wrote:I don't think he's not willing to go to the Giants, he just wants to go to the Dodgers more and is trying to drag things out for them to get involved


This. Eventually he will approve to the Giants, just not sure when.


Hopefully it drags out and screws up the rest of the Cardinals' offseason.
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Postby biittner77 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:49 pm

Remember when Card's fans were saying that they were ok with their future HOF first baseman bolting for The Anaheim Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim because he wasn't going to be worth the crazy money he was going to get? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
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Re: Where will Giancar-go?

Postby David » Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:50 pm

biittner77 wrote:Remember when Card's fans were saying that they were ok with their future HOF first baseman bolting for The Anaheim Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim because he wasn't going to be worth the crazy money he was going to get? Pepperidge Farm remembers.


wait but they were right about that
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Postby champaignchris » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:24 pm

David wrote:wait but they were right about that


Which makes wanting Giancarlo strange because in about 4 years that contract is going to look just as bad as Pujols' contract.
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Re: Where will Giancar-go?

Postby MWV » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:43 pm

champaignchris wrote:
David wrote:wait but they were right about that


Which makes wanting Giancarlo strange because in about 4 years that contract is going to look just as bad as Pujols' contract.

But those next 3-4 seasons are what the cards and giants are hoping to acquire. I don’t think it’s strange at all.
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Re: Where will Giancar-go?

Postby David » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:44 pm

champaignchris wrote:
David wrote:wait but they were right about that


Which makes wanting Giancarlo strange because in about 4 years that contract is going to look just as bad as Pujols' contract.


nah

he's freshly turned 28 and whoever gets him is probably going to get surplus value out of the first few years and money is worth less and less as time goes on, especially in mlb

fwiw, his 2017 fWAR was "worth" $55M on its own.

pujols was 32 and almost immediately bad
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Re: Where will Giancar-go?

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:52 pm

The age is the most relevant point there(and there's no LOLing at someone wanting to pursue Stanton), but Pujols was also in a different stratosphere of productivity. Pujols had 8 seasons of 7+ fWAR, Stanton has zero. Stanton is very good, but he carries both performance and injury risk nonetheless.
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Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:55 pm

I thought Soler would turn into Stanton, but now I think Stanton will turn into Soler
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Postby entbird79 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:21 pm

David wrote:
champaignchris wrote:
David wrote:wait but they were right about that


Which makes wanting Giancarlo strange because in about 4 years that contract is going to look just as bad as Pujols' contract.


nah

he's freshly turned 28 and whoever gets him is probably going to get surplus value out of the first few years and money is worth less and less as time goes on, especially in mlb


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Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:47 pm

Get horsefeathers, St. Louis

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David wrote:
champaignchris wrote:
Which makes wanting Giancarlo strange because in about 4 years that contract is going to look just as bad as Pujols' contract.


nah

he's freshly turned 28 and whoever gets him is probably going to get surplus value out of the first few years and money is worth less and less as time goes on, especially in mlb


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Postby The Logan » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:33 pm

I want to put a big "GIAN" on the hood of my car, that way whenever I drive by people on the street, they can say "Look at that Gian car go!"
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:49 pm

The Logan wrote:I want to put a big "GIAN" on the hood of my car, that way whenever I drive by people on the street, they can say "Look at that Gian car go!"


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The Logan wrote:I want to put a big "GIAN" on the hood of my car, that way whenever I drive by people on the street, they can say "Look at that Gian car go!"


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Postby Regular Show » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:30 pm

So the Cardinals are probably not getting Stanton, and it honestly has to sting that a top player doesn't want to go there. It seems like Cards fans and writers then want the team to focus on the other Marlins OFs (Yelich and Ozuna) as trade targets.

That raises a couple questions:

A. Why do they think the Marlins are going to move all their best players? Another "fire sale" or however you want to describe it will not go over well with the fanbase and is a bad way to start off for Jeter and company.

B. Are the Cardinals really willing to give up what it will take to trade for Yelich and/or Ozuna? It will be harder than trading for Stanton undoubtedly. A lot of teams are going to be interested in Yelich and Ozuna if they become available.

Don't do this again Marlins. Say NO to a fire......................(sale).

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Postby jersey cubs fan » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:12 pm

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A. Why do they think the Marlins are going to move all their best players? Another "fire sale" or however you want to describe it will not go over well with the fanbase and is a bad way to start off for Jeter and company.


The Marlins owners have no money and have made it clear they are going to get rid of all costly players.
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