Manny Machado Traded to the Dodgers

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Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:14 pm

sneakypower wrote:cool stat, Bryce Harper would not crack the top 9 hitters on our roster for fWAR rn

At this point of the competitive cycle on the position player front it’s just about adding complimentary pieces.
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Postby Derwood » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:45 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:
sneakypower wrote:cool stat, Bryce Harper would not crack the top 9 hitters on our roster for fWAR rn

At this point of the competitive cycle on the position player front it’s just about adding complimentary pieces.


Harper would be a nice complimentary piece
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Postby The_Achiever » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:51 pm

sneakypower wrote:cool stat, Bryce Harper would not crack the top 9 hitters on our roster for fWAR rn


And we want to spend $400MM on this guy smh.

Just give it to Javy!
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Re: The Manny Machado Thread

Postby JennieGarthAlgar » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:29 pm

The_Achiever wrote:
sneakypower wrote:cool stat, Bryce Harper would not crack the top 9 hitters on our roster for fWAR rn


And we want to spend $400MM on this guy smh.

Just give it to Javy!


We should offer Javy an extension thats low on the surface but reachable to $400 million if he meets all kinds of dollar incentives for the really hard plays he makes like his slides, tags or walks.
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Re: The Manny Machado Thread

Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:32 pm

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sneakypower wrote:cool stat, Bryce Harper would not crack the top 9 hitters on our roster for fWAR rn

At this point of the competitive cycle on the position player front it’s just about adding complimentary pieces.


Harper would be a nice complimentary piece

That's the joke
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Postby Bertz » Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:35 pm

The source is Steve Phillips though, so let's not jump to conclusions yet. I mean five tweets ago he said this (the Jim here being Jim Bowden)

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Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:38 pm

Bertz wrote:The source is Steve Phillips though, so let's not jump to conclusions yet. I mean five tweets ago he said this (the Jim here being Jim Bowden)


Steve Phillips and Ralph are exactly the type of guys who have solid sources in the Orioles org because there are the same type of idiots running the team as they are and probably ran orgs together in the past.
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Postby David » Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:40 pm

god i cant imagine what it felt like for guys like theo and beane when the league's executives were 95% morons like those guys
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Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:42 pm

David wrote:god i cant imagine what it felt like for guys like theo and beane when the league's executives were 95% morons like those guys

It probably was mostly fun for them because they knew they could swindle guys in the end 9 times out of 10 but at the same time they probably hated it because it was probably always a moving target and wildly ranging valuations for transactions that they had to be driven crazy.
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Postby David » Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:46 pm

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David wrote:god i cant imagine what it felt like for guys like theo and beane when the league's executives were 95% morons like those guys

It probably was mostly fun for them because they knew they could swindle guys in the end 9 times out of 10 but at the same time they probably hated it because it was probably always a moving target and wildly ranging valuations for transactions that they had to be driven crazy.


i think it was mostly the former though

must've felt like candy from a baby
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Postby Brian707 » Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:49 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:https://twitter.com/stevephillipsgm/status/1019645897209270274?s=21



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Postby Bobson Dugnutt » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:33 pm

Done deal. Judging by the reaction, doesn’t seem like it’s a really severe package that LA had to give up?
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Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:34 pm

Bobson Dugnutt wrote:Done deal. Judging by the reaction, doesn’t seem like it’s a really severe package that LA had to give up?

Russell, Happ, Schwarber, and Monty. LOL. The writers in this industry are so horsefeathering bad
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Postby Bobson Dugnutt » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:42 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:
Bobson Dugnutt wrote:Done deal. Judging by the reaction, doesn’t seem like it’s a really severe package that LA had to give up?

Russell, Happ, Schwarber, and Monty. LOL. The writers in this industry are so horsefeathering bad


haha, exactly what i was thinking. is russell along better than the package they got? probably.

also gives me hope that we can package together some crap from our system to get something meaningful.
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Re: The Manny Machado Thread

Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:49 pm

Bobson Dugnutt wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:
Bobson Dugnutt wrote:Done deal. Judging by the reaction, doesn’t seem like it’s a really severe package that LA had to give up?

Russell, Happ, Schwarber, and Monty. LOL. The writers in this industry are so horsefeathering bad


haha, exactly what i was thinking. is russell along better than the package they got? probably.

also gives me hope that we can package together some crap from our system to get something meaningful.

We could get a better package for Russell alone than what the Orioles got for Machado, so yes Russell alone would’ve gotten it done.
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Re: The Manny Machado Thread

Postby Brian » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:48 am

David wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:
David wrote:god i cant imagine what it felt like for guys like theo and beane when the league's executives were 95% morons like those guys

It probably was mostly fun for them because they knew they could swindle guys in the end 9 times out of 10 but at the same time they probably hated it because it was probably always a moving target and wildly ranging valuations for transactions that they had to be driven crazy.


i think it was mostly the former though

must've felt like candy from a baby


Am I imagining things are wasn't there a part in Moneyball where Beane said he liked working with Hendry for these reasons, or now that I'm thinking more about it was it something about him being surprised the Cubs took Brownlie because it was a surprisingly good pick. If that's the case Beane got the last laugh on that one... however they picked Blanton 3 picks later who 14 years later served up one of the most glorious dongs in Cubs history so we win.
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Re: The Manny Machado Thread

Postby Brian707 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:24 am

Just hope he doesn't sign a long term deal with LA in offseason
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Re: The Manny Machado Thread

Postby Agony and Ivy » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:56 am

Brian707 wrote:Just hope he doesn't sign a long term deal with LA in offseason


He doesn't really fit there when they're healthy. Machado isn't a good SS and Seager is, so Machado would have to acquiesce to playing 3B full time. They'd also have to move Turner to 1B and Bellinger to their crowded OF.

I guess you could see something like this:

C - Grandal
1B - Turner
2B - Taylor
3B - Machado
SS - Seager
LF - Kemp
CF - Bellinger
RF - Puig
Bench - Muncy, Hernandez, Barnes, Pederson

And I guess deploy Muncy as a utility type and Bellinger spelling Turner. This would all only be possible if Machado accepts a move to 3B longterm. I don't see it happening, personally.
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Re: The Manny Machado Thread

Postby Andy » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:27 pm

Brian wrote:
David wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:It probably was mostly fun for them because they knew they could swindle guys in the end 9 times out of 10 but at the same time they probably hated it because it was probably always a moving target and wildly ranging valuations for transactions that they had to be driven crazy.


i think it was mostly the former though

must've felt like candy from a baby


Am I imagining things are wasn't there a part in Moneyball where Beane said he liked working with Hendry for these reasons, or now that I'm thinking more about it was it something about him being surprised the Cubs took Brownlie because it was a surprisingly good pick. If that's the case Beane got the last laugh on that one... however they picked Blanton 3 picks later who 14 years later served up one of the most glorious dongs in Cubs history so we win.

I finally read Moneyball recently and I think I remember that. Beane wanted Brownlie and was surprised we took him.
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