Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby Neuby » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:28 pm

David wrote:
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David wrote:So this is easily the biggest Japanese star the Cubs have ever had. I hope we get some fun Japanese media hijinks. Especially when Joe starts bringing Emus around and stuff.


Hopefully a lot of the fans have grown the horsefeathers up since the Fukudome days.

I'm hopeful but not optimistic.

I guess that was literally ten years ago tho. Hopefully there are fewer idiots.


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The Cubs have had quite a few Japanese players since Fukudome and fans have behaved.
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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby Derwood » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:28 pm

David wrote:
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David wrote:So this is easily the biggest Japanese star the Cubs have ever had. I hope we get some fun Japanese media hijinks. Especially when Joe starts bringing Emus around and stuff.


Hopefully a lot of the fans have grown the horsefeathers up since the Fukudome days.

I'm hopeful but not optimistic.

I guess that was literally ten years ago tho. Hopefully there are fewer idiots.


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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:34 pm

I won't be naive enough to think that no one will do something stupid at some point, but I do think there's a difference in the novelty. Fukudome was coming to MLB from Japan and was the first major player the Cubs have had from Japan, Darvish has been here for 6 years and pitched in Wrigley in the playoffs last year.
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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby David » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:39 pm

Neuby wrote:
David wrote:
Sammy Sofa wrote:
Hopefully a lot of the fans have grown the horsefeathers up since the Fukudome days.

I'm hopeful but not optimistic.

I guess that was literally ten years ago tho. Hopefully there are fewer idiots.


Kyuji Fujikawa
Tsuyoshi Wada
Munenori Kawasaki
Koji Uehara

The Cubs have had quite a few Japanese players since Fukudome and fans have behaved.

Nobody cared about those guys and I'm not really sure whether the Kawasaki stuff qualifies even if he does take part in it himself.

Darvish is a big deal. Nobody is going to show up at a game for koji uehara in a karate kid costume..
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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby Sammy Sofa » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:41 pm

Neuby wrote:
David wrote:
Sammy Sofa wrote:
Hopefully a lot of the fans have grown the horsefeathers up since the Fukudome days.

I'm hopeful but not optimistic.

I guess that was literally ten years ago tho. Hopefully there are fewer idiots.


Kyuji Fujikawa
Tsuyoshi Wada
Munenori Kawasaki
Koji Uehara

The Cubs have had quite a few Japanese players since Fukudome and fans have behaved.


Come on, clearly we're talking about different circumstances in regards to all of the hype around Fukudome and a guy like Darvish vs. a bunch of dudes. Nobody was ever going to be selling t-shirts for Uehara outside of Wrigley.
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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby CyHawk_Cub » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:49 pm

It's a given that racist memorabilia will be sold outside Wrigley. Though it won't be seen as such by many. "Just paying homage to the Japanese culture"
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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby r_mack » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:04 am

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:I won't be naive enough to think that no one will do something stupid at some point, but I do think there's a difference in the novelty. Fukudome was coming to MLB from Japan and was the first major player the Cubs have had from Japan, Darvish has been here for 6 years and pitched in Wrigley in the playoffs last year.

I think our fans are more toned down and knowledgeable since Theo got here.
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Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:29 am

Just saw that this is the 4th nine-figure free agent contract in Cubs history, putting them second all-time behind the Yankees.
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Postby davell » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:49 am

Hairyducked Idiot wrote:Just saw that this is the 4th nine-figure free agent contract in Cubs history, putting them second all-time behind the Yankees.


Wow. I'd have thought Boston would be an easy 2nd. Probably would have guessed Dodgers had more than 4 too.
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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:59 am

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Hairyducked Idiot wrote:Just saw that this is the 4th nine-figure free agent contract in Cubs history, putting them second all-time behind the Yankees.


Wow. I'd have thought Boston would be an easy 2nd. Probably would have guessed Dodgers had more than 4 too.



Dodgers I believe only have Kevin Brown and Zach Grienke. (Re-signing/extending Kershaw and Kemp don't count as "free agent signings" for this stat, I assume).

Red Sox are David Price, Manny Ramirez and Carl Crawford. (Adrian Gonzalez was acquired with a year left and extended right as the season started).

Cubs are Soriano, Lester, Heyward and Darvish.
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Postby Tim » Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:27 am

How many does NY have? Will we catch them after we sign Harper?
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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby JennieGarthAlgar » Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:30 am

No. I have:

ARod
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Postby TBS Playoffs Insider » Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:32 am

JennieGarthAlgar wrote:No. I have:

ARod
Jeter
Teixeria
Sabathia
Tanaka
Ellsbury
Giambi


Jeter and Arod don't count
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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby JennieGarthAlgar » Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:43 am

TBS Playoffs Insider wrote:
JennieGarthAlgar wrote:No. I have:

ARod
Jeter
Teixeria
Sabathia
Tanaka
Ellsbury
Giambi


Jeter and Arod don't count


Then yes, we will catch them with 5
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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby soccer10k » Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:24 am

TBS Playoffs Insider wrote:
JennieGarthAlgar wrote:No. I have:

ARod
Jeter
Teixeria
Sabathia
Tanaka
Ellsbury
Giambi


Jeter and Arod don't count


Wouldn't the second ARod deal count since he opted out and was a free agent? And if that's the case then CC would count twice since he opted out also.
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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby 17 Seconds » Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:21 am

Sammy Sofa wrote:
David wrote:So this is easily the biggest Japanese star the Cubs have ever had. I hope we get some fun Japanese media hijinks. Especially when Joe starts bringing Emus around and stuff.


Hopefully a lot of the fans have grown the horsefeathers up since the Fukudome days.


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Postby UMFan83 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:28 am

Sounds like Theo made one last call to Jake’s contingent before finalizing the Yu deal. Reportedly he asked if Jake would be willing to accept a similar deal and was told no.
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Postby Tim » Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:30 am

UMFan83 wrote:Sounds like Theo made one last call to Jake’s contingent before finalizing the Yu deal. Reportedly he asked if Jake would be willing to accept a similar deal and was told no.

lol - good luck with that, Jake.

also....

lol - good luck with that whole adding Arrieta and Archer, sotmrfib
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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby Cubswin11 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:31 am

UMFan83 wrote:Sounds like Theo made one last call to Jake’s contingent before finalizing the Yu deal. Reportedly he asked if Jake would be willing to accept a similar deal and was told no.

Where did you see this? Interested to read the article. Wouldn’t be surprised if Jake waits in to Spring at this point and wait for an injury
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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby Andy » Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:33 am

Cubswin11 wrote:
UMFan83 wrote:Sounds like Theo made one last call to Jake’s contingent before finalizing the Yu deal. Reportedly he asked if Jake would be willing to accept a similar deal and was told no.

Where did you see this? Interested to read the article. Wouldn’t be surprised if Jake waits in to Spring at this point and wait for an injury

Heyman wrote about it. He's definitely the guy that supposedly said he'd be willing to wait into the season
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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby treebird » Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:10 am

i’m going to go out on a limb and say the contract we asked arrieta if he’d accept was similar to the darvish deal in that it was on that would allow him to play major league baseball.

no way did we offer arrieta something comparable to this and double no way would he have turned it down.
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Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:15 am

treebird wrote:i’m going to go out on a limb and say the contract we asked arrieta if he’d accept was similar to the darvish deal in that it was on that would allow him to play major league baseball.

no way did we offer arrieta something comparable to this and double no way would he have turned it down.


I hope that is true for Jake's sake because I would like him not to be the avatar of this CBA by waiting until June to sign.
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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby Tim » Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:22 am

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:
treebird wrote:i’m going to go out on a limb and say the contract we asked arrieta if he’d accept was similar to the darvish deal in that it was on that would allow him to play major league baseball.

no way did we offer arrieta something comparable to this and double no way would he have turned it down.


I hope that is true for Jake's sake because I would like him not to be the avatar of this CBA by waiting until June to sign.

I strongly hope that St Louis or Milwaukee gives him a $35M/yr for 7 year contract tomorrow.
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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby MWV » Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:26 am

How long would the Arrieta saga have to drag out for the Cubs to lose a compensatory draft pick?
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