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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby Bryant's Disco Ball » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:13 pm

David wrote:We're gonna win 100 horsefeathering games again, folks


Huh. Why so pessimistic?
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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby Little Slide Rooter » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:20 pm

I am satisfied by this transaction. A fine addition to our ballclub. A fine addition, indeed.
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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby David » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:20 pm

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Postby Sammy Sofa » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:21 pm

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Postby Sammy Sofa » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:24 pm

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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby OleMissCub » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:30 pm

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:The Cubs now have 4 starters projected by ZiPS to be worth at least 3 wins. The rest of the NL Central combined has 2.



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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby David » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:35 pm

I like this quote from GRB

MinorLeagueGuy wrote:And never mind how balanced their rotation is. A hard throwing righty with great offspeed, a crafty lefty that cuts and moves the ball around the knees\corners, a control freak that lives below the zone with sneaky life on his pitches, a deceptive lefty that hits spots all day long, and Chatwood. Facing them will be hell on Matheny..
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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby Duke Silver » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:36 pm

I, being a very smart Brewers fan, am glad we didn't sign a 31-year-old Yu Darvish. Now we can just sign Jake Arrieta, a 31-year-old, instead. He should fit right in with our other big signing, 31-year-old Lorenzo Cain.
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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby CubsWin » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:36 pm

CubsWin wrote:Before the Cubs acquired Quintana on July 13th, they're rotation was comprised of:

Arrieta
Lester
Hendricks
Lackey
E. Butler

Now it's made up of:

Darvish
Quintana
Hendricks
Lester
Chatwood

I'd say they've improved themselves...

Their rotation depth on July 13th was:

Montgomery
Butler
Zastryzny
Frankoff
Buchanan

(Mills was on the DL and Tseng had only one start in AAA at that time)

Now it's:

Montgomery
Tseng
Butler (for now)
Mills
Alzolay
L. Farrell
Smyly (eventually)

I'd say they've improved themselves there, too...
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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby Rob » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:44 pm

Oh horsefeathers, we played right into the Brewer's pursuit of Arrieta. They've got us now.

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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby CubsWin » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:45 pm

I like how Theo and Jed knew going in and referred to 2017 as "somewhat of a bridge year" as their rotation and pitching depth wasn't quite where they wanted it to be and their young hitters were still gaining MLB experience.

And yet they still made their 3rd consecutive NLCS.

Welp, 2018 ain't gonna be no bridge year.
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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby Tim » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:50 pm

lol - I forgot all about Smyly.

The playoff bullpen is going to have Morrow, Cishek, Edwards, Strop, Smyly & Chatwood.
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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby Cubswin11 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:54 pm

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gobigred wrote:Gonna miss jake..hope that whole tipping pitches thing was just that

I trust Theo so by the time to research that he was tipping and it’s fixable. I too am gonna miss Jake, Yu is better and I take him over Jake ever time but hope Jake goes to a non-Brewer team like the Twins or Angels or whatever so I don’t need to root against him.


If Yu wasn’t tipping then we should somehow be worried about our offense, because he dominated it.

It seemed like something only the Astros knew about (even going back to his Ranger days), still we should've picked up on it but maybe he wasn't doing it until the WS? Also maybe he just pitched some real horsefeathers games in the WS and wasn't tipping? He also carried a no-hitter through 5 innings vs the D'Backs in the DS.
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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby TBS Playoffs Insider » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:54 pm

it keeps mind horsefeathers me that the cubs, who never ever ever sign a meaningful FA have signed Lester, Heyward (ok that was a miss,) Zobrist, and Darvish in 3 of the last 4 offseasons

edit: and will likely head into the 2019 offseason as favorites to sign Harper

edit again: im not counting dawson because that was weird and i was a child and yes i forgot about soriano BUT OTHER THAN THAT
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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby Brian » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:57 pm

Tim wrote:lol - I forgot all about Smyly.

The playoff bullpen is going to have Morrow, Cishek, Edwards, Strop, Smyly & Chatwood.


now imagine if Justin Wilson isn't what he was with the Cubs last year
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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby Bull » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:59 pm

Tim wrote:lol - I forgot all about Smyly.

The playoff bullpen is going to have Morrow, Cishek, Edwards, Strop, Smyly & Chatwood.

And if any of them fail before then, Detroit Wilson, 2015 Grimm, Tseng or WORST CASE SCENARIO: Montgomery
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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby CubinNY » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:59 pm

Nice!
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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby Rob » Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:00 pm

Remember how MacPhail and Hendry actually had a policy that they liked to let guys hit FA before they would try to extend them?
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Postby Tim » Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:01 pm

Not to mention Monty, Maples, Alzolay, etc.
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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby Post Count Padder » Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:03 pm

I am v. pleased. That's a good deal. Not thrilled with going 6 years but if there are opt-outs and it's front loaded, that makes it better.
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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby CubsWin » Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:04 pm

Tim wrote:lol - I forgot all about Smyly.

The playoff bullpen is going to have Morrow, Cishek, Edwards, Strop, Smyly & Chatwood.

And Wilson (assuming he's back to being Wilson).
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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

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Re: Darvish to Cubs, 6/$126 Million + Incentives

Postby Bertz » Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:07 pm

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Here's the Cub's payroll outlook for the next few years with Darvish. I assume Gimenez will make more than the league minimum if he's in the majors, but haven't seen any details, otherwise 2018 should be pretty much locked in.

To me the big takeaway is how well set up the team already is for 2019. Horsefeathers will happen for sure, but as of right now we'll be walking into an insanely loaded FA class with money to burn and no holes that need to be filled.
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