Jake Arrieta Signs with the Phillies for 3/$75M

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Jake Arrieta Signs with the Phillies for 3/$75M

Postby Bobson Dugnutt » Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:40 pm

Jake close to a deal with philly per Heyman
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:47 pm

Come on, be over 50 mil
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby Tim » Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:49 pm

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:Come on, be over 50 mil

Does it matter for us? I was under the impression he just had to sign to max out our compensation.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby Splendid Splinter » Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:54 pm

Tim wrote:
Transmogrified Tiger wrote:Come on, be over 50 mil

Does it matter for us? I was under the impression he just had to sign to max out our compensation.


Yeah he just has to sign for the Cubs to get a pick. Doesn't matter what the amount is.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:00 pm

Splendid Splinter wrote:
Tim wrote:
Transmogrified Tiger wrote:Come on, be over 50 mil

Does it matter for us? I was under the impression he just had to sign to max out our compensation.


Yeah he just has to sign for the Cubs to get a pick. Doesn't matter what the amount is.


The amount determines the round. If it's over 50 million it's the comp round between round 1 and 2, less than that it's the comp round between rounds 2 and 3. It's the approximate difference in getting pick 33 or 73.
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Re: Jake Arrieta Close to Signing with the Phillies

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Re: Jake Arrieta Close to Signing with the Phillies

Postby bukie » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:02 pm

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:https://twitter.com/jsalisburynbcs/status/972939202986901504?s=21

Unless multi is 2, that should go over 50.
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby Regular Show » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:03 pm

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:
Splendid Splinter wrote:
Tim wrote:Does it matter for us? I was under the impression he just had to sign to max out our compensation.


Yeah he just has to sign for the Cubs to get a pick. Doesn't matter what the amount is.


The amount determines the round. If it's over 50 million it's the comp round between round 1 and 2, less than that it's the comp round between rounds 2 and 3. It's the approximate difference in getting pick 33 or 73.


Wait, are you sure about that? I thought the Cubs were unable to get a compensation pick after round 1 (between round 1 and 2) due to our market size?

I'm so confused right now...
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Re: Jake Arrieta Close to Signing with the Phillies

Postby UMFan83 » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:03 pm

Obviously knew this day was coming for awhile but it’s still sad
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby bukie » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:03 pm

Regular Show wrote:
Transmogrified Tiger wrote:
Splendid Splinter wrote:
Yeah he just has to sign for the Cubs to get a pick. Doesn't matter what the amount is.


The amount determines the round. If it's over 50 million it's the comp round between round 1 and 2, less than that it's the comp round between rounds 2 and 3. It's the approximate difference in getting pick 33 or 73.


Wait, are you sure about that? I thought the Cubs were unable to get a compensation pick after round 1 (between round 1 and 2) due to our market size?

I'm so confused right now...

Compensation picks are not the same as competitive balance picks.
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Re: Jake Arrieta Close to Signing with the Phillies

Postby Regular Show » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:06 pm

UMFan83 wrote:Obviously knew this day was coming for awhile but it’s still sad


Yeah, it's kind of sad but we all saw it coming. We've had time to prepare. At least he didn't go to the Cardinals like Dexter.
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Re: Jake Arrieta Close to Signing with the Phillies

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:07 pm

bukie wrote:
CaliforniaRaisin wrote:https://twitter.com/jsalisburynbcs/status/972939202986901504?s=21

Unless multi is 2, that should go over 50.


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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby Bobson Dugnutt » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:07 pm

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:
Splendid Splinter wrote:
Tim wrote:Does it matter for us? I was under the impression he just had to sign to max out our compensation.


Yeah he just has to sign for the Cubs to get a pick. Doesn't matter what the amount is.


The amount determines the round. If it's over 50 million it's the comp round between round 1 and 2, less than that it's the comp round between rounds 2 and 3. It's the approximate difference in getting pick 33 or 73.


Aren’t they receiving the 75th pick (or around that) for Davis, who signed for over $50 million?
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby Regular Show » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:09 pm

bukie wrote:
Regular Show wrote:
Transmogrified Tiger wrote:
The amount determines the round. If it's over 50 million it's the comp round between round 1 and 2, less than that it's the comp round between rounds 2 and 3. It's the approximate difference in getting pick 33 or 73.


Wait, are you sure about that? I thought the Cubs were unable to get a compensation pick after round 1 (between round 1 and 2) due to our market size?

I'm so confused right now...

Compensation picks are not the same as competitive balance picks.


Yeah, I know. I meant compensatory picks for losing a FA. The Cubs never get competitive balance picks.

I'm pretty sure the Cubs will never get a compensatory pick after the competitive balance round A (after the 1st round). I thought our compensatory pick comes after competitive balance round B (after the second round).
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Re: Offseason Transactions

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:12 pm

Bobson Dugnutt wrote:
Transmogrified Tiger wrote:
Splendid Splinter wrote:
Yeah he just has to sign for the Cubs to get a pick. Doesn't matter what the amount is.


The amount determines the round. If it's over 50 million it's the comp round between round 1 and 2, less than that it's the comp round between rounds 2 and 3. It's the approximate difference in getting pick 33 or 73.


Aren’t they receiving the 75th pick (or around that) for Davis, who signed for over $50 million?


You're right, when I saw that in double checking I thought Davis was under 50 million. The 50 million distinction is if you're a revenue sharing recipient, so Arrieta would be comp round B regardless.
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Re: Jake Arrieta Close to Signing with the Phillies

Postby Brian » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:16 pm

I may be misremembering but I feel like over the last two-three years Jake made some rather cocky quotes about what would happen when he reached free agency that probably didn't age well.
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Re: Jake Arrieta Close to Signing with the Phillies

Postby Andy » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:16 pm

You can only feel so bad for a guy being paid what will probably be in the 70M neighborhood, but I was hoping Jake would get more.
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Re: Jake Arrieta Close to Signing with the Phillies

Postby Regular Show » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:24 pm

Brian wrote:I may be misremembering but I feel like over the last two-three years Jake made some rather cocky quotes about what would happen when he reached free agency that probably didn't age well.


The rumored extension the Cubs were offering was probably worth more than what he is receiving from the Phillies.

Yeah, Boras and Arrieta messed up and are probably pissed about what happened.
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Re: Jake Arrieta Close to Signing with the Phillies

Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:30 pm

Regular Show wrote:
Brian wrote:I may be misremembering but I feel like over the last two-three years Jake made some rather cocky quotes about what would happen when he reached free agency that probably didn't age well.


The rumored extension the Cubs were offering was probably worth more than what he is receiving from the Phillies.

Yeah, Boras and Arrieta messed up and are probably pissed about what happened.


I don't think I'd be results oriented on this. It was probably the right move at the time, even if it didn't work out.
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Re: Jake Arrieta Close to Signing with the Phillies

Postby Cubswin11 » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:32 pm

Good for Jake. Sad to see him go, hope he gets $75-90 mil here. Glad he didn’t go to the Nats, Brewers or Cardinals
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Re: Jake Arrieta Close to Signing with the Phillies

Postby mikeyt34 » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:32 pm

Regular Show wrote:
UMFan83 wrote:Obviously knew this day was coming for awhile but it’s still sad


Yeah, it's kind of sad but we all saw it coming. We've had time to prepare. At least he didn't go to the Cardinals like Dexter.


I was more concerned with Jake joining the Nats than the Cardinals, but I'm glad he didn't go to either.
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Re: Jake Arrieta Close to Signing with the Phillies

Postby champaignchris » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:35 pm

If he has to go to an NL team, the Phillies are fine in that it won’t affect the Cubs WS chances and I can still root for Jake when he doesn’t play the Cubs.
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Re: Jake Arrieta Close to Signing with the Phillies

Postby weis21 » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:43 pm

i loved jake when he pitched really well for the cubs but i always thought he was kind of a douche.

i don't wish him ill will but that fact - along with i think he's perhaps set for marked regression - make me not the least caring about this.

all said, he's been dead to me since the cubs were eliminated last year. (but thx jake for the memories)

i miss dexter so much more
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Re: Jake Arrieta Close to Signing with the Phillies

Postby jersey cubs fan » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:49 pm

Hairyducked Idiot wrote:
Regular Show wrote:
Brian wrote:I may be misremembering but I feel like over the last two-three years Jake made some rather cocky quotes about what would happen when he reached free agency that probably didn't age well.


The rumored extension the Cubs were offering was probably worth more than what he is receiving from the Phillies.

Yeah, Boras and Arrieta messed up and are probably pissed about what happened.


I don't think I'd be results oriented on this. It was probably the right move at the time, even if it didn't work out.
maybe you're right, but a guy who more or less came out of nowhere probably should have been more self aware about short shelf life of pitchers and his inevitable return to earth.
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