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Re: Cubs Acquire Cole Hamels for Eddie Butler, Rollie Lacy & PTBNL

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:22 am
by Cubswin11
CyHawk_Cub wrote:
d_money wrote:What’s the team option for 2019 on Hamels? Would he be interested in a 2 year deal?


Team option for $20 million or $6 million buyout (which would be paid by Rangers). If Cubs elect to bring him back for $20 million, the Rangers are off the hook for any future $$; Cubs would get no salary relief.

Yeah no way we exercise that $20 million option. If he’d be open to a Cishek type 2 year deal I’d be interested as it could make Monty more available to be packaged with a Almora or Happ for another pitcher (assuming Bryce is also brought in).

Re: Cubs Acquire Cole Hamels for Eddie Butler, Rollie Lacy & PTBNL

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:28 pm
by JennieGarthAlgar
I hope we don't trade Montgomery unless its part of some superstar return. He is so underappreciated.

Re: Cubs Acquire Cole Hamels for Eddie Butler, Rollie Lacy & PTBNL

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:35 am
by Regular Show
So Cole Hamels is pitching really well and looks like a different pitcher in his short time here. If he keeps pitching this well (and does well in the playoffs) I think the Cubs seriously consider picking up his option. Not necessarily to keep him, but to use as a nice trade chip. If we're going after Bryce Harper and maybe an elite RP (Britton or Miller) then the Cubs are going over the Luxury Tax threshold.

Cole Hamels at $20 mil isn't a great price or a great value in a trade, but if the Cubs were willing to eat some of that I would think they'd be able to get a decent prospect back. I'm not sure exactly how much, but I think if the Cubs eat $5 mil or so then Hamels for 1 year/$15 mil isn't a bad deal at all.

I could see us making a deal with SD since they have the best farm system in baseball, they have a surplus of prospects right now, Hamels is from SD and they want a veteran pitcher on the team next year (they had heavy interest in deGrom & Syndergaard at the trade deadline). I'm probably looking too far ahead, but I really think the Cubs are going to pick up his option if he continues to perform.

What do you guys think?

Re: Cubs Acquire Cole Hamels for Eddie Butler, Rollie Lacy & PTBNL

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:44 am
by PackLandVA
Pass

Re: Cubs Acquire Cole Hamels for Eddie Butler, Rollie Lacy & PTBNL

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 3:39 am
by CyHawk_Cub
He has a no-trade clause that would block being moved to a significant portion of the league, right?

Re: Cubs Acquire Cole Hamels for Eddie Butler, Rollie Lacy & PTBNL

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 3:46 pm
by champaignchris
Didn't the Cubs decline to pick up the option on Jason Hammel in part because they didn't feel right about picking up an option just to trade a guy?

I could totally see the Cubs declining the option on Hamels and then re-signing him to a Lackey-ish deal. But I don't think there's any way they pick up the option.

Re: Cubs Acquire Cole Hamels for Eddie Butler, Rollie Lacy & PTBNL

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:08 pm
by JennieGarthAlgar
I think they declined the option on Hammel because he asked Theo to. He wanted to sign a multi year deal with someone and Theo respected it.

Re: Cubs Acquire Cole Hamels for Eddie Butler, Rollie Lacy & PTBNL

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:22 pm
by Cubswin11
JennieGarthAlgar wrote:I think they declined the option on Hammel because he asked Theo to. He wanted to sign a multi year deal with someone and Theo respected it.

Yeah iirc, they had a team option and let Jason decide if he wanted it picked up or not to go get a multi year deal somewhere or stay.

Re: Cubs Acquire Cole Hamels for Eddie Butler, Rollie Lacy & PTBNL

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:19 am
by Regular Show


Just 17 years of age, Ovalles made his professional debut with the Cubs’ affiliate in the Dominican Summer League this year. Through 21 games and 94 plate appearances, he’s posted a .316/.430/.368 batting line with four doubles and eight steals in 13 tries.


I know nothing about this guy, but he's doing well so far. Still, the fact we're getting prime Cole Hamels + cash for Eddie Butler, Rollie Lacy and this kid is amazing. I really thought they were getting a better prospect, but maybe the Rangers really like this guy.

This might go down as one of the better trades in the Epstein/Hoyer era. Clearly, the Cubs need to make more trades with Texas.

Re: Cubs Acquire Cole Hamels for Eddie Butler, Rollie Lacy & PTBNL

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:37 am
by TomtheBombadil
So in 2015 I went on a rant to some guy who worked for some team at a MiL game that if the Cubs added Heyward, Hamels, and Chapman they would be monstrous. They have now acquired all three so this counts as me being right. 5 credits, please! 10 if all three are on WS winners!