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Re: 2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

Postby Bertz » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:56 pm

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Hunter wrote:How do the Dodgers keep finding ways to dump bad contracts and payroll? We can't seem to do it.

Well, to be fair, the three players the Dodgers traded have some intrinsic value, while the players we would like to unload are extremely bad.

Even if this is a salary dump, I'm surprised not to hear more substantial names other than Bailey because Puig and Wood are both very valuable players.


Yeah the return seems light for the Dodgers. I think one of these things is at play here:

- The Dodgers made a trade that is kinda bad in a vacuum but they don't care because it lets them sign Machado/Harper

- Wood and Puig had less value than you'd think. Puig because of off the field stuff and Wood because he always wears down and turns into a pumpkin late in the year

- Someone, whether it's the Dodgers or another team they're trading with (say for Kluber or Realmuto), really likes these specific prospects
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Re: 2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

Postby Cubswin11 » Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:05 pm

BigSlick wrote:
Hunter wrote:How do the Dodgers keep finding ways to dump bad contracts and payroll? We can't seem to do it.

Well, to be fair, the three players the Dodgers traded have some intrinsic value, while the players we would like to unload are extremely bad.

Even if this is a salary dump, I'm surprised not to hear more substantial names other than Bailey because Puig and Wood are both very valuable players.

Puig and Wood aren’t “very valuable” get the hell out of here. They’re okay players. I’d liken Puig to Zobrist and Wood to Monty in terms of trade value.
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Re: 2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

Postby BigSlick » Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:16 pm

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Hunter wrote:How do the Dodgers keep finding ways to dump bad contracts and payroll? We can't seem to do it.

Well, to be fair, the three players the Dodgers traded have some intrinsic value, while the players we would like to unload are extremely bad.

Even if this is a salary dump, I'm surprised not to hear more substantial names other than Bailey because Puig and Wood are both very valuable players.

Puig and Wood aren’t “very valuable” get the hell out of here. They’re okay players. I’d liken Puig to Zobrist and Wood to Monty in terms of trade value.

And Homer Bailey is straight up awful. I'll take em.
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Re: 2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

Postby Derwood » Sat Dec 22, 2018 3:22 am

Dodgers already cut Bailey, so this trade is getting weirder and weirder
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Re: 2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

Postby Post Count Padder » Sat Dec 22, 2018 3:33 am

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Hunter wrote:How do the Dodgers keep finding ways to dump bad contracts and payroll? We can't seem to do it.

Well, to be fair, the three players the Dodgers traded have some intrinsic value, while the players we would like to unload are extremely bad.

Even if this is a salary dump, I'm surprised not to hear more substantial names other than Bailey because Puig and Wood are both very valuable players.

Puig and Wood aren’t “very valuable” get the hell out of here. They’re okay players. I’d liken Puig to Zobrist and Wood to Monty in terms of trade value.

They're both 3 win players. They're not "stars" but they're really solid players. Wood would be a 5 win pitcher if he was able to make 32 stars.
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Postby Derwood » Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:26 am

Brewers traded Domingo Santana to Seattle for some reason
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Re: 2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

Postby Cubswin11 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:31 am

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BigSlick wrote:Well, to be fair, the three players the Dodgers traded have some intrinsic value, while the players we would like to unload are extremely bad.

Even if this is a salary dump, I'm surprised not to hear more substantial names other than Bailey because Puig and Wood are both very valuable players.

Puig and Wood aren’t “very valuable” get the hell out of here. They’re okay players. I’d liken Puig to Zobrist and Wood to Monty in terms of trade value.

They're both 3 win players. They're not "stars" but they're really solid players. Wood would be a 5 win pitcher if he was able to make 32 stars.

Puig has been worth 3 wins or more once since 2014 (technically 2.9) and has been under 2 more times than not. Alex Wood clearly hasn’t shown an ability to stay healthy at all, so that’s just projecting something that isn’t probable at all.
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Re: 2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

Postby UMFan83 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:15 am

Derwood wrote:Dodgers already cut Bailey, so this trade is getting weirder and weirder


I’m guessing if the Reds were gonna take on 20+ mil in salary they were going to insist on dumping baileys contract. LAD still save over $20m and Cincinnati turns $25 million worth of worthless player in $45 million of players that actually have worth. Dodgers accepted the trade because it was their best opportunity to clear up significant payroll even if it meant taking a worthless high salary player back and immediately cutting them. Though I guess they could have at least brought him into camp and see if their coaches could do anything with him.
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Re: 2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

Postby Liam Neeson » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:48 pm

Nelson Cruz to the Twins



I was 100% sure Tampa was going to sign him.
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Re: 2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

Postby Post Count Padder » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:00 pm

Liam Neeson wrote:Nelson Cruz to the Twins



I was 100% sure Tampa was going to sign him.

I think Tampa was pretty sure they were gonna sign him too. I wonder what they do now.

On the flip side, the Twins have a sneaky good offense now, after getting him and Cron and Schoop. If they manage to piece together a passable bullpen, they have a playoff shot.
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Re: 2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

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Liam Neeson wrote:Nelson Cruz to the Twins



I was 100% sure Tampa was going to sign him.

I think Tampa was pretty sure they were gonna sign him too. I wonder what they do now.


It sucks that they will probably go cheap now and just roll a Lowe/Robertson/Choi/Diaz DH and platoon extravaganza.
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Re: 2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

Postby Post Count Padder » Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:59 pm

The Angels signed Jonathan Lucroy.
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Re: 2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

Postby Derwood » Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:49 pm

Post Count Padder wrote:The Angels signed Jonathan Lucroy.


This would have been awesome news in 2013
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Re: 2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

Postby Post Count Padder » Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:48 pm

The Blue Jays are close to acquiring left-hander Clayton Richard from the Padres, Ben Nicholson-Smith of Sportsnet reports. Richard has been in limbo since the Padres designated him for assignment on Dec. 20.


Someone has to take Stroman's spot in the rotation after we trade for him.
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Re: 2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

Postby Cubswin11 » Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:51 pm

If Monty were to be involved in a trade Richard would’ve been a nice pickup to take his spot. Fine depth move for the Jays and maybe they can flip him at some point.
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Re: 2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:23 am

Seems like an odd team for him to pick, assuming they still get Machado. That infield is crowded and since they are trying to win he won’t get the benefit to play through struggles if he has some rust to work off. Good move by the Yankees though as it’s essentially free and good depth.

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Re: 2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

Postby Banedon » Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:07 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:Seems like an odd team for him to pick, assuming they still get Machado. That infield is crowded and since they are trying to win he won’t get the benefit to play through struggles if he has some rust to work off. Good move by the Yankees though as it’s essentially free and good depth.



I think it's a great fit. He's a cheap option to fill in for however long Gregorious is out. If they can get anything at all out of him, then they don't have to rush Gregorious back.
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All according to The Plan. New year’s in so it is finally time to drop the charade and sign these beasts Machado and Harper
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Re: 2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:14 pm

Rotfl

Who believes this horsefeathers?

MLB Network insider Joel Sherman noted in a Twitter thread Wednesday, writing that adding Tulo could give the Yankees "a bit more leverage" as the Machado sweepstakes unfolds. There's a little less pressure on the Yankees if the White Sox or Phillies, Machado's other chief suitors, submit a higher offer than New York in terms of years or dollar value.

The Yankees, Sherman writes, could then "see if Machado follows his heart to [New York] ... or follows [the money] elsewhere."


https://www.mlb.com/news/latest-manny-m ... =282421090

If this is actually the Yankees’ position, and it probably is given just how cereal sports (business!) is, they may as well not be in on Machado and Harper at all.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:12 pm

Banedon wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:Seems like an odd team for him to pick, assuming they still get Machado. That infield is crowded and since they are trying to win he won’t get the benefit to play through struggles if he has some rust to work off. Good move by the Yankees though as it’s essentially free and good depth.



I think it's a great fit. He's a cheap option to fill in for however long Gregorious is out. If they can get anything at all out of him, then they don't have to rush Gregorious back.

For the Yankees it’s a fine fit. For Tulo it just seems like an odd choice and place to pick because he might not see as much playing time as he would with other teams, especially if he starts slow and gets buried behind guys.
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Postby Banedon » Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:19 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:
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Cubswin11 wrote:Seems like an odd team for him to pick, assuming they still get Machado. That infield is crowded and since they are trying to win he won’t get the benefit to play through struggles if he has some rust to work off. Good move by the Yankees though as it’s essentially free and good depth.



I think it's a great fit. He's a cheap option to fill in for however long Gregorious is out. If they can get anything at all out of him, then they don't have to rush Gregorious back.

For the Yankees it’s a fine fit. For Tulo it just seems like an odd choice and place to pick because he might not see as much playing time as he would with other teams, especially if he starts slow and gets buried behind guys.


Gotcha...I somehow misread your previous post.
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Re: 2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

Postby Post Count Padder » Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:50 pm

The Indians signed Justin Grimm. Last season for him was.........grim.
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