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Postby JennieGarthAlgar » Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:53 pm

Ding Dong Johnson wrote:Nick Markakis turned his best season in a decade into a whopping $6 million. brinks truck gif


Apparently had better offers but let his kids decide where to sign
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Postby Post Count Padder » Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:36 pm

Drew Pomeranz signed with the Giants for just $1.5 million.
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Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:52 pm

That is a super perfect illustration of why you don't give Hamels 20 million if you aren't going to go bonkers with the payroll.
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Re: 2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:12 pm

Remember that Phil Coke got $2 million for being left handed and existing
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Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:40 pm

I mean Pomeranz was awful, hurt? and his velo was down last year. This seems like the type of deal he should be getting and shouldn’t have been in any contenders planned rotation.
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:44 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:I mean Pomeranz was awful, hurt? and his velo was down last year. This seems like the type of deal he should be getting and shouldn’t have been in any contenders planned rotation.

I sure as hell would not be happy if the Cubs intentionally went into 2019 with him in the rotation.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:49 pm

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Cubswin11 wrote:I mean Pomeranz was awful, hurt? and his velo was down last year. This seems like the type of deal he should be getting and shouldn’t have been in any contenders planned rotation.

I sure as hell would not be happy if the Cubs intentionally went into 2019 with him in the rotation.

Right. For SP depth on a AAA deal in the Alec Mills range of the depth chart, sure I guess, or even to try him as a bullpen option out of ST. But to have him be planned to be in the rotation with only Monty or Chatwood as the fallback would not be pretty dumb.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:52 pm

If he’s remotely healthy it’s a good chunk more than $1.5 mil.

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Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:16 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:I mean Pomeranz was awful, hurt? and his velo was down last year. This seems like the type of deal he should be getting and shouldn’t have been in any contenders planned rotation.


Less about Pomeranz in particular, but any buy low candidate is going to be low for a good reason. You don't have to bank on 200 IP from Pomeranz or his proxy, but you also have internal options(Start Montgomery) and buy low options are easier to stack for cheap too.
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Postby big ball chunky time » Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:56 pm

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Cubswin11 wrote:I mean Pomeranz was awful, hurt? and his velo was down last year. This seems like the type of deal he should be getting and shouldn’t have been in any contenders planned rotation.


Less about Pomeranz in particular, but any buy low candidate is going to be low for a good reason. You don't have to bank on 200 IP from Pomeranz or his proxy, but you also have internal options(Start Montgomery) and buy low options are easier to stack for cheap too.


im with you. we know how slow the market moves now, why spend 99 percent of your FA budget on Day One on 53-year old Cole Hamels when you could wait the market out and get 75 percent of whatever value he'll provide for pennies on the dollar in January or February

again, cole hamels is bad, and i feel like im on the right side of history by saying so

edit: Hamels, despite being mostly otherworldly with the cubs, was worth the same WAR last year as clay bucholz (who pitched 16 games.) How much is Bucholz getting this year, because it sure isn't gonna be twenty fuggen million.
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Postby Brian » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:20 pm

but Cole is handsome
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Re: 2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:26 pm

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Cubswin11 wrote:I mean Pomeranz was awful, hurt? and his velo was down last year. This seems like the type of deal he should be getting and shouldn’t have been in any contenders planned rotation.


Less about Pomeranz in particular, but any buy low candidate is going to be low for a good reason. You don't have to bank on 200 IP from Pomeranz or his proxy, but you also have internal options(Start Montgomery) and buy low options are easier to stack for cheap too.


im with you. we know how slow the market moves now, why spend 99 percent of your FA budget on Day One on 53-year old Cole Hamels when you could wait the market out and get 75 percent of whatever value he'll provide for pennies on the dollar in January or February

again, cole hamels is bad, and i feel like im on the right side of history by saying so

edit: Hamels, despite being mostly otherworldly with the cubs, was worth the same WAR last year as clay bucholz (who pitched 16 games.) How much is Bucholz getting this year, because it sure isn't gonna be twenty fuggen million.

Bucholz elbow is horsefeathers up, fwiw. He was shut down and had that PRP injection. Harvey and Lynn got around $10 mil on aav. Unless we are absolutely dumpster diving we weren’t saving a ton on the SP addition (and again there has to be some consideration given that we “saved” $7 million with the Smyly swap).
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Re: 2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

Postby Bertz » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:57 pm

Cole Hamels is good and easily worth $20m in a broad sense, but for our specific case with less than $30m (maybe less than $25?) available to spend it was dumb to pick up his option.
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:06 pm

Bertz wrote:Cole Hamels is good and easily worth $20m in a broad sense, but for our specific case with less than $30m (maybe less than $25?) available to spend it was dumb to pick up his option.


but what this take presupposes is, what if that is not the case?
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Re: 2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

Postby Andy » Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:55 pm

Dudgers signing AJ Pollock.



Heyman says "$55M plus", which seems notably small.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:58 pm

Andy wrote:Dudgers signing AJ Pollock.



Heyman says "$55M plus", which seems notably small.

That seems perfectly reasonable to me for a guy who’s only had 1 good year and has been hurt every other year since and is 31 already
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Postby Cubswin11 » Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:17 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote:https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/01/mets-sign-justin-wilson.html

Go Mets

The few weeks they’re good will be fun (hopefully we don’t play them when this taking place) until everyone breaks like always and they’re nothing special.
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Postby Bertz » Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:19 pm



I would have preferred this to Brach, but not enough to get worked up over. Brach has a much higher floor.
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Re: 2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

Postby Cubswin11 » Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:24 pm

Bertz wrote:https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1088877029766897670?s=19

I would have preferred this to Brach, but not enough to get worked up over. Brach has a much higher floor.

I really wanted him (figuring he’d only cost about this) but yeah, not gonna lose sleep. Don’t feel great Duensing/Rosario/Ryan are the only real lefty bullpen options as I’m guessing Monty will stay in more the swingman/longer relief/full inning and not matchup role.
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Postby Brian » Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:18 pm

There's only like 100 free agents so the Twins decided to pick Mike Olt up from the eye doctor and sign him

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/01/ ... e-olt.html
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Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:27 pm

We should look at picking this guy up if he’s healthy. Seems pretty solid to join the throw horsefeathers against the wall group.

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Re: 2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:59 am

The Red Sox gave a MiL deal to Jenrry Mejia. He last threw a ML pitch in 2015 having been suspended three times for drug use, including a lifetime (read: one year) ban from 2016. He threw 7 innings in the DSL last year

Reeeeeaaaaaalllllly cool offseason going on
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Re: 2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

Postby NonProfitCow » Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:26 am

TomtheBombadil wrote:The Red Sox gave a MiL deal to Jenrry Mejia. He last threw a ML pitch in 2015 having been suspended three times for drug use, including a lifetime (read: one year) ban from 2016. He threw 7 innings in the DSL last year

Reeeeeaaaaaalllllly cool offseason going on



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Re: 2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

Postby JennieGarthAlgar » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:26 pm

Yeah and the other guy had a lifetime ban last year
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