2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

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Postby NonProfitCow » Wed Nov 21, 2018 5:10 am

The_Achiever wrote:Soooo. You can just get sold right out mlb to freaking japan like that?

I believe it's usually done by the request of the player, but players can opt not to.
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Postby The Logan » Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:25 am

The_Achiever wrote:Soooo. You can just get sold right out mlb to freaking japan like that?


So soon we forget Mr. Baseball?
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Re: 2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

Postby jersey cubs fan » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:33 pm

The_Achiever wrote:Soooo. You can just get sold right out mlb to freaking japan like that?

if you want to play there
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Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Wed Nov 21, 2018 4:15 pm

The_Achiever wrote:Soooo. You can just get sold right out mlb to freaking japan like that?

welcome to trump’s america. now you know why we need that wall
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Postby Cubswin11 » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:41 pm

Braves signed McCann back and Twins claimed CJ Cron after the Rays cut/DFA’d him last week.
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:29 am

Cubswin11 wrote:https://twitter.com/mlbtraderumors/status/1067271804027396096?s=21


Replace La Stella with this guy, please!
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Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:32 am

TomtheBombadil wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:https://twitter.com/mlbtraderumors/status/1067271804027396096?s=21


Replace La Stella with this guy, please!

My thoughts exactly. Crazy they just let him go because they didn’t want to pay him ~$4 million. They could’ve gotten a lottery ticket or two at least from someone. Like at least get some teams Mekkes, Maples, etc types.
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Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:42 am

This might be a silly question, but what is Dietrich good at? He’s a minus defender everywhere, he doesn’t hit for average, and while he has some pop in his bat he’s not likely to exceed a .330 wOBA, plus he’s about to turn 30 so it’s not gonna get better. I’d rather bet on La Stella bouncing back if choosing between them.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:48 am

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:This might be a silly question, but what is Dietrich good at? He’s a minus defender everywhere, he doesn’t hit for average, and while he has some pop in his bat he’s not likely to exceed a .330 wOBA, plus he’s about to turn 30 so it’s not gonna get better. I’d rather bet on La Stella bouncing back if choosing between them.

LaStella bouncing back to what, exactly?


I view Dietrich as a want only if it’s over LaStella for the last bench spot. Like I don’t care to add him much more than that. LaStella literally can’t play defense anywhere, Dietrich can get by a few places. Dietrich has also had to actually play everyday a few years too where as Tommy is heavily shielded. If Tommy had to play as much as Dietrich his numbers would be awful. I think Dietrich just has more true talent. Dietrich has better numbers vs RHP for his career too (higher OPS, wRC+ and wOBA vs RHP for his career over LaStella, their BA is nearly the same) which facing RHP is something either would primarily do, he also has a lot better numbers not in Marlins park (which is a huge pitcher park, iirc) .271/.351/.462, 120 wRC+, .352 wOBA, in a lesser role like Tommy I think he’s a ton better and in the situation guys get hurt he’s the better option to have to play 4+ times a week for extended periods as well.

That being said, someone will likely sign Dietrich with a more clear path to playing time than we would or should and Theo should do something cool soon so we don’t need to argue over the benefits and wants of Dietrich vs LaStella and hopefully neither are on the team next year because we have better options.
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Re: 2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:53 am

Cubswin11 wrote:
Transmogrified Tiger wrote:This might be a silly question, but what is Dietrich good at? He’s a minus defender everywhere, he doesn’t hit for average, and while he has some pop in his bat he’s not likely to exceed a .330 wOBA, plus he’s about to turn 30 so it’s not gonna get better. I’d rather bet on La Stella bouncing back if choosing between them.

LaStella bouncing back to what, exactly?


He had a .350 wOBA the previous two years/300+ PA
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:19 am

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:He had a .350 wOBA the previous two years/300+ PA


I’m convinced. No need to overthink or spend so much on the bench, pretty sure La Stella is cheaper
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:52 am

This Deitrich/La Stella thing reminded me that Almora is still on the roster.

So Almora came up a little short on this whole Grady Sizemore/5 WAR CF at 24 thing by 3.7 rWAR/3.9 fWAR. Still he is cheap, hits RH, and can play CF which could give him a pretty easy in onto the 2019 Cubs with Harper. Right now it does not seem as if there are any reasonably priced alternatives so do we trust this Iapoce guy to teach a 25 YO...contact hitter...to find a little power?

Two guys that might shake free, can handle CF, and offer more on offense than Almora for a low price are Delino DeShields Jr. and Jason Marisnick. Both are non-tender candidates according the MLBTR, also RHH CFers. Whereas I’m uninterested in bringing in Deitrich for more money than LaStella, these guys might offer a little more than Almora for less than $2 million (more than Almora). Marisnick slugged 16 HRs with a .250+ IsoSLG in 2017 and seems to be an equal or better defensive OF in the majors. DeShields offers more speed, also plays good defense, and has had a couple fringe starter seasons with OBPs in the .340. He made less than a million last year, Marisnick made $1.9 million.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:58 am



I'd prefer he doesn't go to the Brewers but he might not be very good anymore. Anyways, if Giants are doing a tear down I'd have interest in Crawford. Him and Chatwood have similar LT hits and he's controlled a year longer and owed ~$20 million more (Crawford owed 3/45, 12.5 LT hit, Chatwood owed 2/25.5 and 12.6 LT hit remain). In the non-Bryce offseason something like Chatwood, Almora and a prospect(s) (throw in Russell too if they want to deal with him) for Crawford and signing Pollock or McCutchen (2 year deal on McCutchen, 3 years on Pollock) wouldn't be that bad of an offseason.

I don't know if that's a fair trade for Crawford or not but would think they're going to have to eat money on his deal to move him if they want any sort of decent return and taking Chatwood gets them out sooner and saves more money and they get Almora and a prospect out of it and maybe Chatwood eats some innings. Crawford also has a full NTC so that could limit their options on trading him so that could play in our favor if he only wants to go to a contender/have interest in playing here.
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:01 pm

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Re: 2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

Postby Bryant's Disco Ball » Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:43 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:
TomtheBombadil wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:https://twitter.com/mlbtraderumors/status/1067271804027396096?s=21


Replace La Stella with this guy, please!

My thoughts exactly. Crazy they just let him go because they didn’t want to pay him ~$4 million. They could’ve gotten a lottery ticket or two at least from someone. Like at least get some teams Mekkes, Maples, etc types.


Question, because I know I am missing something.

If no team claimed him on waivers, that means nobody wanted to pay him $4 million and thus wouldn't also have given up lottery tickets, right? Or am I reading this wrong?
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Re: 2018-19 Other Team Offseason Transactions Not Worth a New Thread

Postby Thunderbolt_47 » Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:45 pm

Regarding the whole sale to Japan thing, the player isn't just shipped there after a transaction like a new muffler for your car.
Either the guy was approached by the Japanese team, he agreed and then the Japanese team reached a deal with the American one, or the player approached the Japanese, or the Japanese team asked to buy the American player, and then the American team asked the player if he wanted to go or not. In any way, they're not shipped there like a computer part you'd buy on Amazon, the player is supposed to be informed and willing.
The opposite happened recently in European soccer, with World Cup winner Kylian Mbappe being sold without his agreement from his club to another, the guy ended up rolling along since he received a part of the hefty sum that was paid, but he was still sold by surprise.

... I can't believe I wrote all of this without a slave joke, especially since Mbappe happens to be black.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:51 pm

Thunderbolt_47 wrote:... I can't believe I wrote all of this without a slave joke, especially since Mbappe happens to be black.


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Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:53 pm

More disappointed in him not coming back than I probably should be.

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Postby CyHawk_Cub » Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:54 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:
Thunderbolt_47 wrote:... I can't believe I wrote all of this without a slave joke, especially since Mbappe happens to be black.


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It's because slave jokes are funny, man
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:55 pm

you always wonder when a new poster will start to feel his oats
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CyHawk_Cub wrote:
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Thunderbolt_47 wrote:... I can't believe I wrote all of this without a slave joke, especially since Mbappe happens to be black.


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It's because slave jokes are funny, man


I "like" that he surprised himself by not going for it.
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Postby ConstableRabbit » Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:58 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:More disappointed in him not coming back than I probably should be.


Me too, but not at that price.
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