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Ronald Torreyes is not a Cub

Postby jersey cubs fan » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:38 pm

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Re: Ronald Torreyes is now a Cub

Postby Post Count Padder » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:43 pm

Does he have options left? Does he have to be rostered? I assume we gave up basically nothing but he's not better than seal boy
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Re: Ronald Torreyes is now a Cub

Postby UMFan83 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:43 pm

Wrong former Cub named Torr(ey)es acquired from the Yankees.
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Re: Ronald Torreyes is now a Cub

Postby David » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:48 pm

now bring back sappelt and wood
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Re: Ronald Torreyes is now a Cub

Postby bukie » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:50 pm

The once and future Cub.
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Re: Ronald Torreyes is now a Cub

Postby squally1313 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:01 pm

On the one hand, he isn't good.

On the other hand, he's short and scrappy and best case scenario hits for a totally empty batting average that will make him the new first half Almora to the worst fans, just without defense or future potential.
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Re: Ronald Torreyes is now a Cub

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:10 pm

My memory of Torreyes was that his best quality was his hit tool and that he was limited to 2B defensively, now Fangraphs is telling me he's been above average in limited time at 2B, SS, and 3B in MLB, while the hit tool is basically all that works in MLB(this part isn't surprising). Fine by me to have the backup SS be a high contact guy if that's what it is, now get Russell off the roster.
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Re: Ronald Torreyes is now a Cub

Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:13 pm

If he has options left is he just the Mike Freeman replacement? Or is he the replacement for Russell if he’s non-tendered or traded? He’s a cheaper option and not all that much worse than the Hechavarria’s, etc’s of the world. His fielding numbers at SS seem good enough and he has a ~.270/.320/.330 slash vs lefties and ~7% BB% and 15% K% for his career vs them (would assume that’s where most of his starts come shifting Javy to 2B and Zobrist to OF vs LHP). As the last position player on the 25 man who can play SS that’s mostly fine, I guess. He also just turned 26.
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Re: Ronald Torreyes is now a Cub

Postby TomtheBombadil » Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:13 pm

Generally fits in that he’s cheap, plays the MIF, hits RH, and isn’t incompetent offensively. He was pretty useful to the 2017 Yankees. Hopefully he is only the first and lowest upside of multiple options in this mold, prefer a better defender. They could do worse so he sets a nice floor
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Re: Ronald Torreyes is now a Cub

Postby jersey cubs fan » Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:23 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:If he has options left is he just the Mike Freeman replacement? Or is he the replacement for Russell if he’s non-tendered or traded? He’s a cheaper option and not all that much worse than the Hechavarria’s, etc’s of the world. His fielding numbers at SS seem good enough and he has a ~.270/.320/.330 slash vs lefties and ~7% BB% and 15% K% for his career vs them (would assume that’s where most of his starts come shifting Javy to 2B and Zobrist to OF vs LHP). As the last position player on the 25 man who can play SS that’s mostly fine, I guess. He also just turned 26.

he was optioned to minors last year with yankees. at his age, with as long as he's been around, I'm guessing he doesn't have options
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Re: Ronald Torreyes is now a Cub

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:23 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:If he has options left is he just the Mike Freeman replacement? Or is he the replacement for Russell if he’s non-tendered or traded? He’s a cheaper option and not all that much worse than the Hechavarria’s, etc’s of the world. His fielding numbers at SS seem good enough and he has a ~.270/.320/.330 slash vs lefties and ~7% BB% and 15% K% for his career vs them (would assume that’s where most of his starts come shifting Javy to 2B and Zobrist to OF vs LHP). As the last position player on the 25 man who can play SS that’s mostly fine, I guess. He also just turned 26.



Roster Resource says he has one option left. That seems right from scanning his career but I never feel confident about this. Arizona Phil will be able to confirm soon enough.
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Re: Ronald Torreyes is now a Cub

Postby Bull » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:47 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote:Generally fits in that he’s cheap, plays the MIF, hits RH, and isn’t incompetent offensively. He was pretty useful to the 2017 Yankees. Hopefully he is only the first and lowest upside of multiple options in this mold, prefer a better defender. They could do worse so he sets a nice floor

I think that’s what this is about. In the upcoming moves, it gives the cubs the option of walking away(or at least the ability to bluff that they’ll walk away) from a variety of tables both when getting rid of Russell and when seeking someone to replace him.
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Re: Ronald Torreyes is now a Cub

Postby CP_414 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:50 pm

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:If he has options left is he just the Mike Freeman replacement? Or is he the replacement for Russell if he’s non-tendered or traded? He’s a cheaper option and not all that much worse than the Hechavarria’s, etc’s of the world. His fielding numbers at SS seem good enough and he has a ~.270/.320/.330 slash vs lefties and ~7% BB% and 15% K% for his career vs them (would assume that’s where most of his starts come shifting Javy to 2B and Zobrist to OF vs LHP). As the last position player on the 25 man who can play SS that’s mostly fine, I guess. He also just turned 26.



Roster Resource says he has one option left. That seems right from scanning his career but I never feel confident about this. Arizona Phil will be able to confirm soon enough.


Not AZ Phil, but he does have an option remaining.
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Re: Ronald Torreyes is now a Cub

Postby Bertz » Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:27 pm

If Torreyes is actually a decent SS, I really like this. If he's not, I don't really care because I question how much time he will actually spend on the roster this year. He's basically La Stella but trade some walks for some defense. If the last two spots on our bench are Torreyes and Spangenberg/Deitrich, versus La Stella and some generic backup SS, I think that's probably a small upgrade.
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Re: Ronald Torreyes is now a Cub

Postby sneakypower » Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:23 pm

i used to love this guy!

but looking at his stats i can see i was wrong to do so
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Postby TBS Playoffs Insider » Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:41 pm

sneakypower wrote:i used to love this guy!

but looking at his stats i can see i was wrong to do so


it may have actually been your confidence in him that led him astray
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Re: Ronald Torreyes is now a Cub

Postby Sammy Sofa » Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:22 pm

Bertz wrote:If Torreyes is actually a decent SS, I really like this.


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Re: Ronald Torreyes is now a Cub

Postby 17 Seconds » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:20 am

did he take care of his face
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Re: Ronald Torreyes is now a Cub

Postby Backtobanks » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:34 pm

As long as we're collecting mediocre, versatile middle infielders Wilmer Flores is available.
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Re: Ronald Torreyes is now a Cub

Postby PackLandVA » Sat Dec 01, 2018 3:06 am

Ronald Torreyes is now a former Cub...again
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Re: Ronald Torreyes is not a Cub

Postby soccer10k » Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:00 am

So what was the purpose of this if the Cubs were going not going to tender him a contract?
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Re: Ronald Torreyes is not a Cub

Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:06 am

This makes me think that the Cubs were planing to non-tender Addi and then changed their mind at the last moment.
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Re: Ronald Torreyes is not a Cub

Postby UMFan83 » Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:14 am

JudasIscariotTheBird wrote:This makes me think that the Cubs were planing to non-tender Addi and then changed their mind at the last moment.


That’s the best explanation I’ve heard
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Re: Ronald Torreyes is not a Cub

Postby Sammy Sofa » Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:20 am

UMFan83 wrote:
JudasIscariotTheBird wrote:This makes me think that the Cubs were planing to non-tender Addi and then changed their mind at the last moment.


That’s the best worst explanation I’ve heard
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Re: Ronald Torreyes is not a Cub

Postby TBS Playoffs Insider » Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:27 am

they picked him up in case they could trade russell. they couldnt. so russell got a contract and a nice pr push
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