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Bullpen Rumors

Postby Cubswin11 » Thu May 09, 2019 5:52 pm

Will Smith or Joe Jimenez please, if the Giants and Tigers are scouring our system, no thanks on Shane Greene. Good to hear we are seemingly already looking to make moves. Also keep sucking As and Nats so maybe Treinen and Doolittle become available.

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Postby Post Count Padder » Fri May 10, 2019 9:52 pm

Yeah Allen Webster's days are numbered. I'd like to see some guys in Iowa like Mekkes, Mills or Wick but I wouldn't mind an established piece either. Intrigued by Barraclaugh as a cheaper option if the Nats keep sucking. Also liked Tony Watson on the Giants awhile. Maybe a Melancon for Chatwood deal could be struck.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Fri May 10, 2019 11:33 pm

Rumor has it the bullpen is now mostly trash.
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Sat May 11, 2019 12:52 am

I’m still pretty into trading for Joe Jimenez. Smith from the Giants for a LH
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Postby Perd » Sat May 11, 2019 2:03 am

I liked it better when I didn’t know who Kyle Ryan and Allen Webster were. Make that happen again, Theo.
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Postby Schwarber Fan » Sat May 11, 2019 11:24 am

What’s up with Xavier Cedeno? Isn’t he almost healthy.
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Postby Banedon » Sat May 11, 2019 12:00 pm

Perd wrote:I liked it better when I didn’t know who Kyle Ryan and Allen Webster were. Make that happen again, Theo.


I actually don't hate Kyle Ryan.
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Postby sweetpeteman » Sat May 11, 2019 12:15 pm

Fun fact, Kyle Ryan is currently 5th in fwar on ther pitching staff.


Not in the bullpen, the entire staff. He's 1st in the bullpen at 0.4.
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Postby Post Count Padder » Sat May 11, 2019 4:43 pm

Kyle Ryan has been really good this year, save for the most recent appearance or two.

Also, you were saying about Cedeno?

The Cubs have activated left-hander Xavier Cedeno from the injured list to make his 2019 debut, per MLB.com’s Jordan Bastian (via Twitter). In a corresponding move, right-hander Allen Webster takes Cedeno’s slot on the injured list with radial nerve inflammation in his throwing arm.
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Postby Post Count Padder » Wed May 22, 2019 10:54 pm

Rowan Wick getting called up. He's pitched very well in AAA. Xavier Cedeno to the IL with I'm going to assume a phantom injury.
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Postby Post Count Padder » Fri May 24, 2019 9:52 pm

Yeah so are we just gonna wait two weeks and sign Kimbrel? Because we really should do something about this pen.
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Postby UMFan83 » Fri May 24, 2019 10:05 pm

Here’s a rumor about the bullpen: it sucks
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Postby 17 Seconds » Sat May 25, 2019 12:30 am

Post Count Padder wrote:Yeah so are we just gonna wait two weeks and sign Kimbrel? Because we really should do something about this pen.


it's going to be funny when he signs somewhere else for like 1 year 17 million
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Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Sat May 25, 2019 12:32 am

UMFan83 wrote:Here’s a rumor about the bullpen: it sucks

Confirmed.
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Postby Deeg » Sat May 25, 2019 1:01 am

What a flucking disaster. Every damn game the bullpen costs us now counts just as much as one in October.

For a GM as generally smart as he is, Theo has been astonishingly bad at constructing a bullpen. Even the WS team needed a lopsided rental trade to hang on, and at that Joe was basically using a 1-man bullpen by the end. Sure Ricketts' cheapness was a huge problem this offseason, but Theo has had ample chances to alleviate the problem and never done it.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Sat May 25, 2019 2:38 pm

How many games has the bullpen blown so far this season?
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Postby Bertz » Sat May 25, 2019 3:16 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:How many games has the bullpen blown so far this season?


They have 11 blown saves, which is tops in the league. That number is obviously not 1 to 1, as they had two blown saves just yesterday. Looking at win probability added, they're 20th in the league. If you look at FG's Meltdowns statistic, which is basically blown saves without all the arbitrary rules about what is a save opportunity, they're tied for 8th most in the league.

On the whole, the pen's been more mediocre than bad. They had the nightmare week to open the season, and they've had a nightmare past ~10 days, and in between they were pretty fantastic. With how gassed the pen is right now though, and with only 1 off day the next few weeks, I'd guess this current bad stretch is going to last a bit longer and drag those numbers down more.

I imagine we see two relievers brought in this summer. A brand name closer around the deadline and someone akin to Jesse Chavez (where they think they've found a hidden gem) in the next month or so.
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Postby Post Count Padder » Sat May 25, 2019 5:24 pm

Yeah, while I like some of the depth we have and the intriguing guys in Iowa, none of them should be relied heavily on. I had no clue that we'd be giving major innings to Kyle Ryan, Tim Collins and Allen Webster. We need to address this sooner rather than later.
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Postby CubinNY » Sat May 25, 2019 6:12 pm

Bertz wrote:
Sammy Sofa wrote:How many games has the bullpen blown so far this season?


They have 11 blown saves, which is tops in the league. That number is obviously not 1 to 1, as they had two blown saves just yesterday. Looking at win probability added, they're 20th in the league. If you look at FG's Meltdowns statistic, which is basically blown saves without all the arbitrary rules about what is a save opportunity, they're tied for 8th most in the league.

On the whole, the pen's been more mediocre than bad. They had the nightmare week to open the season, and they've had a nightmare past ~10 days, and in between they were pretty fantastic. With how gassed the pen is right now though, and with only 1 off day the next few weeks, I'd guess this current bad stretch is going to last a bit longer and drag those numbers down more.

I imagine we see two relievers brought in this summer. A brand name closer around the deadline and someone akin to Jesse Chavez (where they think they've found a hidden gem) in the next month or so.

They better sign someone good (closer or not) well before the horsefeathering deadline or it won’t matter.
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Sat May 25, 2019 7:26 pm

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Re: Bullpen Rumors

Postby Derwood » Sat May 25, 2019 9:26 pm

It’s pretty great that the team is still suffering from Maddon’s “let Strop hit” stunt last season
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Postby Cubswin11 » Sat May 25, 2019 10:28 pm

Derwood wrote:It’s pretty great that the team is still suffering from Maddon’s “let Strop hit” stunt last season

How so?
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Re: Bullpen Rumors

Postby Derwood » Sun May 26, 2019 12:29 am

Cubswin11 wrote:
Derwood wrote:It’s pretty great that the team is still suffering from Maddon’s “let Strop hit” stunt last season

How so?


I've read reports that his current injury is still lingering from when he hurt it running to first last year
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Re: Bullpen Rumors

Postby Cubswin11 » Sun May 26, 2019 5:09 am

Derwood wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:
Derwood wrote:It’s pretty great that the team is still suffering from Maddon’s “let Strop hit” stunt last season

How so?


I've read reports that his current injury is still lingering from when he hurt it running to first last year

He hurt his other hamstring this time vs the one he hurt last year, I’m nearly certain. He also hurt this currently hurt hamstring in spring, iirc.
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