Cubs in agreement with Craig Kimbrel 3/$43m with 4th year option

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Re: Cubs in agreement with Craig Kimbrel 3/$45m

Postby PackLandVA » Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:54 am

Got a hot dog from concessions right after BP for $6.50. Just got another before the top of the 6th for $8.00.

WTF is going on?!?!?
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Re: Cubs in agreement with Craig Kimbrel 3/$45m

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Re: Cubs in agreement with Craig Kimbrel 3/$45m

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Re: Cubs in agreement with Craig Kimbrel 3/$45m

Postby Post Count Padder » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:09 am

I can't believe we got him and can't believe we got him for just 3/45. What a deal.
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Re: Cubs in agreement with Craig Kimbrel 3/$45m

Postby Guancous » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:22 am

PackLandVA wrote:Got a hot dog from concessions right after BP for $6.50. Just got another before the top of the 6th for $8.00.

WTF is going on?!?!?


Gotta pay for Kimbrel somehow.

Here’s a list of top closer salaries: https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/rankings/salary/closer/.

Cubs should be fine provided Morrow is covered by insurance.
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Re: Cubs in agreement with Craig Kimbrel 3/$45m

Postby Cubswin11 » Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:03 am

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While this is mostly meaningless (good pitcher is good and it was done vs those teams with largely different rosters than current day rosters) it’s still kinda cool to see.
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Re: Kimbrel?

Postby ConstableRabbit » Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:23 am

ConstableRabbit wrote:What is Kimbrel even looking for/expecting?

He just turned 31. His last deal was 4/42 (ended up becoming 5/55 due to team option).

Going into 2019, there aren't a lot of great comps for Kimbrel, with the closest guys being older and not quite as good: Miller (2/25), Ottavino (3/27), Robertson (2/23). Britton (3/39) is the same age, but not as good. Indicates that the market still values youth.

Going into 2018, there were a lot of FA RP signings with a wide range of results across the contract size spectrum: Wade, Shaw, Gregerson, Neshek, Reed, Cishek come to mind. Wade's (3/52) profile is most similar to Kimbrel's from that group but not perfect -- a little younger at the time of signing, but just not as good.

Going into 2017, there was of course Jansen (5/80) and Chapman (5/86), both of whom aren't great comps, either: they were better than Kimbrel and 2 years younger at the time of signing.

With that, we're left with Wade's 3/52, Britton's 3/39 and the 5/80s of Jansen/Chapman. I can't imagine a 31 year old RP is going to get 4-5 years in this environment, even though Kimbrel was apparently looking for that. He's also going to sit out half the season, which isn't insignificant from his standpoint: even if he'd signed Britton's deal, he's out $6.5m. Without knowing the best deal he turned down, does 3/42 do it? Does he even get that offer from anyone at this point?

Update: yes;yes. :hello:
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Re: Cubs in agreement with Craig Kimbrel 3/$45m

Postby 17 Seconds » Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:39 am

we got right handed chapman (in terms of numbers) for under 50 mil

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on top is kimbrel, on the bottom is chapman
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Re: Cubs in agreement with Craig Kimbrel 3/$45m

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17 Seconds wrote:we got right handed chapman (in terms of numbers) for under 50 mil

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on top is kimbrel, on the bottom is chapman

From another board...

Kimbrel career through age 30
1.91 ERA
212 ERA+
1.96 FIP
0.920 WHIP

Rivera career through age 30 (taking out his rookie year where he started games and sucked)
2.13 ERA
223 ERA+
2.80 FIP
1.041 WHIP
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Re: Cubs in agreement with Craig Kimbrel 3/$45m

Postby BigSlick » Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:43 am

As a person who routinely doesn’t pay enough attention to what’s going on, I thought Kimbrel was coming off an injury and that’s why he hadn’t signed a deal until now. It never ever occurred to me that he could be fully healthy and not find a deal with anyone more than two months into the season.

It doesn’t speak highly of the labor compact in MLB if a top of the line player at his position can’t get a deal made until June because of the teams stonewalling him and the whole draft pick thing.
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Re: Cubs in agreement with Craig Kimbrel 3/$45m

Postby Backtobanks » Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:07 am

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Re: Cubs in agreement with Craig Kimbrel 3/$45m

Postby Brian707 » Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:44 am

PackLandVA wrote:Got a hot dog from concessions right after BP for $6.50. Just got another before the top of the 6th for $8.00.

WTF is going on?!?!?


I think concessions are 20% off first hour Wrigley is open. But yes, i do imagine they want to recoop the Trump reelection money quickly. 2020 is quickly approaching
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Re: Cubs in agreement with Craig Kimbrel 3/$45m

Postby ConstableRabbit » Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:03 pm

BigSlick wrote:As a person who routinely doesn’t pay enough attention to what’s going on, I thought Kimbrel was coming off an injury and that’s why he hadn’t signed a deal until now. It never ever occurred to me that he could be fully healthy and not find a deal with anyone more than two months into the season.

It doesn’t speak highly of the labor compact in MLB if a top of the line player at his position can’t get a deal made until June because of the teams stonewalling him and the whole draft pick thing.

He wanted Chapman/Jansen money/years and they are arguably better than him and were much younger when they signed their deals.
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Re: Cubs in agreement with Craig Kimbrel 3/$43m with 4th year option

Postby David » Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:15 pm

so what's his entrance music?
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Re: Cubs in agreement with Craig Kimbrel 3/$43m with 4th year option

Postby Andy » Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:23 pm

David wrote:so what's his entrance music?

As of this article in '16, Welcome to the Jungle.
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Re: Cubs in agreement with Craig Kimbrel 3/$43m with 4th year option

Postby Brian » Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:26 pm

as of April '17



So he may be interested in the Trump fundraiser this weekend.
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Postby David » Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:27 pm

go back to WTTJ please
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Re: Cubs in agreement with Craig Kimbrel 3/$43m with 4th year option

Postby big ball chunky time » Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:33 pm

Brian wrote:as of April '17



So he may be interested in the Trump fundraiser this weekend.


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Re: Cubs in agreement with Craig Kimbrel 3/$43m with 4th year option

Postby Little Slide Rooter » Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:35 pm

If/when Morrow returns, we will be looking at a very sick bullpen:

Kimbrel
Morrow
Strop
Edwards
Monty
Some mix of Brach/Cishek/Kintzler/Chatwood
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Re: Cubs in agreement with Craig Kimbrel 3/$43m with 4th year option

Postby David » Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:37 pm

he might just think it's a cool song and not care or even think about nugent's politics

that said, independently of that, there's still like a 99.99999% chance this white dude from alabama owns several MAGA hats.
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Re: Cubs in agreement with Craig Kimbrel 3/$45m

Postby Little Slide Rooter » Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:38 pm

17 Seconds wrote:we got right handed chapman (in terms of numbers) for under 50 mil


And sans the sociopathic tendencies.
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