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Re: 2019-20 Offseason Rumors/General Chit-Chat

Postby squally1313 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:21 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:https://twitter.com/tomloxas/status/1227320736848760833?s=21


The Barstool Chicago guys are saying something similar, for whatever that's worth. I do know that he lives in Chicago (my buddy sees him at East Bank most mornings), so might be a friend of a friend thing here.
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Postby UMFan83 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:55 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:https://twitter.com/gdubcub/status/1227325094709669890?s=21


So 2 weeks ago, the message was that our offseason was just starting in terms of transactions. And now it appears done.
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Re: 2019-20 Offseason Rumors/General Chit-Chat

Postby Sammy Sofa » Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:13 pm

Someone tell me Kipnis has awesome splits or something, because he blows otherwise. Or is this just boring depth horsefeathers.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:19 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:Someone tell me Kipnis has awesome splits or something, because he blows otherwise. Or is this just boring depth horsefeathers.

Really good contact rate, 113 career wRC+ vs RHP (though only in the 90s last 3 years). It’s mostly just a depth/platoon move. Like it a lot more if it’s to knock Descalso off the roster.
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Re: 2019-20 Offseason Rumors/General Chit-Chat

Postby Post Count Padder » Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:20 pm

https://www.bleachernation.com/cubs/202 ... on-kipnis/

What he does have, however, is a solid glove at second base and well above average contact abilities (91.4% contact rate in the zone last year, 81.3% overall … compared to league averages of 84.9% and 76.2% respectively). He also likely comes with a pretty low price tag, which is still somewhat of a requirement for any player the Cubs pursue this winter.


It’s also worth noting that Kipnis, who bats left-handed, was/has been much better on the strong side of the platoon last season (91 wRC+ versus righties, 64 wRC+ versus lefties ) and for his career (113 wRC+ versus righties, 82 wRC+ versus lefties).
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Re: 2019-20 Offseason Rumors/General Chit-Chat

Postby squally1313 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:44 pm

Yeah all he has do is prove he's better than Descalso and this is a solid move. If he can show some signs of life and work his way into a Kipnis/Bote platoon at second, even better, though Bote also decided to pull an Almora and abruptly start sucking against LHPs in 2019, so who knows.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:36 pm

Oh well. Love that Almora just gets handed a roster spot out of spring completely undeserved two years in a row with no competition brought in.

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Postby Regular Show » Wed Feb 12, 2020 12:17 am

Bertz wrote:https://twitter.com/BleacherNation/statuses/1227376870422958080

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Why is it that teams and players try to knock out extensions around this time? D'backs and Ahmed, and I think there was another one recently. Cubs and Bote happened around this time last year.

It would've made the offseason a lot better if they got this Baez extension done sooner...
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Re: 2019-20 Offseason Rumors/General Chit-Chat

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:33 am

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Bertz wrote:https://twitter.com/BleacherNation/statuses/1227376870422958080

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Why is it that teams and players try to knock out extensions around this time? D'backs and Ahmed, and I think there was another one recently. Cubs and Bote happened around this time last year.

It would've made the offseason a lot better if they got this Baez extension done sooner...


Extensions almost always happen after the team has their roster for the year set, so they don’t cost themselves flexibility they would need if plans had to change.
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Re: 2019-20 Offseason Rumors/General Chit-Chat

Postby Regular Show » Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:59 am

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Regular Show wrote:
Bertz wrote:https://twitter.com/BleacherNation/statuses/1227376870422958080

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Why is it that teams and players try to knock out extensions around this time? D'backs and Ahmed, and I think there was another one recently. Cubs and Bote happened around this time last year.

It would've made the offseason a lot better if they got this Baez extension done sooner...


Extensions almost always happen after the team has their roster for the year set, so they don’t cost themselves flexibility they would need if plans had to change.


That makes sense, but we know they've been working on this a while. Extensions don't generally just get knocked out in a couple weeks or in a relatively quick manner (Bote one being an exception). Cubs have been trying to do some of these extensions for years now...

Just seems like there is more expediency around this time in MLB for some weird reason.
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Postby Gilby » Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:19 am

lol I keep thinking about when the Cubs supposedly sent boatloads of people to the winter meetings ready to WHEEL AND DEAL.

Now here we are with Steven Souza Jr and Jason Kipnis
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Re: 2019-20 Offseason Rumors/General Chit-Chat

Postby Bertz » Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:50 am

Regular Show wrote:
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Regular Show wrote:
Why is it that teams and players try to knock out extensions around this time? D'backs and Ahmed, and I think there was another one recently. Cubs and Bote happened around this time last year.

It would've made the offseason a lot better if they got this Baez extension done sooner...


Extensions almost always happen after the team has their roster for the year set, so they don’t cost themselves flexibility they would need if plans had to change.


That makes sense, but we know they've been working on this a while. Extensions don't generally just get knocked out in a couple weeks or in a relatively quick manner (Bote one being an exception). Cubs have been trying to do some of these extensions for years now...

Just seems like there is more expediency around this time in MLB for some weird reason.


I wonder how much of it is finally getting face-to-face time. Like teams and agents work through the broad strokes of a deal throughout the offseason, but it doesn't get finished until the player and team are in a room together.

Another thing is that most players cut off negotiations at the start of the season. Baseball execs love nothing more than doing jack horsefeathers until the moment before they absolutely have to.
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Bertz wrote:
Regular Show wrote:
Transmogrified Tiger wrote:
Extensions almost always happen after the team has their roster for the year set, so they don’t cost themselves flexibility they would need if plans had to change.


That makes sense, but we know they've been working on this a while. Extensions don't generally just get knocked out in a couple weeks or in a relatively quick manner (Bote one being an exception). Cubs have been trying to do some of these extensions for years now...

Just seems like there is more expediency around this time in MLB for some weird reason.


I wonder how much of it is finally getting face-to-face time. Like teams and agents work through the broad strokes of a deal throughout the offseason, but it doesn't get finished until the player and team are in a room together.

Another thing is that most players cut off negotiations at the start of the season. Baseball execs love nothing more than doing jack horsefeathers until the moment before they absolutely have to.

It also has a lot to do with the timing of arbitration hearings.
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Re: 2019-20 Offseason Rumors/General Chit-Chat

Postby Bull » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:05 pm

Tim wrote:
Bertz wrote:
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That makes sense, but we know they've been working on this a while. Extensions don't generally just get knocked out in a couple weeks or in a relatively quick manner (Bote one being an exception). Cubs have been trying to do some of these extensions for years now...

Just seems like there is more expediency around this time in MLB for some weird reason.


I wonder how much of it is finally getting face-to-face time. Like teams and agents work through the broad strokes of a deal throughout the offseason, but it doesn't get finished until the player and team are in a room together.

Another thing is that most players cut off negotiations at the start of the season. Baseball execs love nothing more than doing jack horsefeathers until the moment before they absolutely have to.

It also has a lot to do with the timing of arbitration hearings.

Which timing is AWFUL. They need to do arb near the beginning of the offseason so that teams know what they're dealing with.
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Re: 2019-20 Offseason Rumors/General Chit-Chat

Postby Andy » Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:27 pm

Regular Show wrote:
Bertz wrote:https://twitter.com/BleacherNation/statuses/1227376870422958080

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Why is it that teams and players try to knock out extensions around this time? D'backs and Ahmed, and I think there was another one recently. Cubs and Bote happened around this time last year.

It would've made the offseason a lot better if they got this Baez extension done sooner...

Bote happened a few days into the season, which compounded the weirdness of it.
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Re: 2019-20 Offseason Rumors/General Chit-Chat

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And the biggest offseason loser is ...

Colorado Rockies: The Rockies also are running into their payroll ceiling and haven't done much this offseason except alienate their franchise player and have owner Dick Monfort help make obvious that management is a real issue here. Prioritizing continuity would be a charitable way to describe the long leash given to the handful of general managers in club history, above and beyond their performance. GM Jeff Bridich has a reputation with other clubs of not being especially easy to work with, while his management of the club's payroll hasn't inspired much hope for a rebound this year.

After the situation with Nolan Arenado had spun out of control, Monfort proclaimed he team would win 94 games in 2020. Winning 94 would be a club record and only the third time the team would have topped 90 wins in its 28-year history. Monfort's evidence was nonexistent as the team won 71 games last year with a minus-123 run differential and no meaningful changes to the roster this year.

Beyond the Astros/Red Sox scandals, Arenado reporting to camp will arguably be the biggest storyline to watch in the coming weeks as this concerning situation could still get much worse.

Alternate Rockies offseason: The Rockies had to pick either shopping Arenado or signing him to an extension and they did both. That's not the only mistake en route to the current disaster, just the most recent one. Ian Desmond's deal (five years, $70 million) was roundly ridiculed at the time and is like watching a car crash in slow motion, posting a hearty minus-1.7 WAR in the first three years of the deal, but at least he has been consistent enough to be negative each of those three years. The complete lack of planning that led to giving Desmond that deal and then taking him, a decent defensive shortstop who is probably a better long-term fit at second or third base, and playing him exclusively at first base and the outfield, positions he had almost no experience playing, is an act of madness...


The Cubs are also in his offseason losers column. I predict the Rockies will be bad again and they're going to shop Arenado hard before the trade deadline. This upcoming season's trade deadline could be one of the crazier ones in MLB history...
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Re: 2019-20 Offseason Rumors/General Chit-Chat

Postby Cubswin11 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:45 pm

Pillar only got a little under $4 million from the Red Sox, really wish we could’ve been in on him for that price. If they just cut Almora that’s only like $2 mil more in salary.
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Re: 2019-20 Offseason Rumors/General Chit-Chat

Postby TomtheBombadil » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:15 pm

A friendly reminder that Kevin Pillar hasn't top a .300 OBP in over a half decade
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Postby Cubswin11 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:20 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote:A friendly reminder that Kevin Pillar hasn't top a .300 OBP in over a half decade

A friendly reminder that’s still better than Almora
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Re: 2019-20 Offseason Rumors/General Chit-Chat

Postby TomtheBombadil » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:31 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:A friendly reminder that’s still better than Almora


Well no, Almora's topped that in the half decade IIRC only went below once. Anyway, the guy Pillar would most be taking PAs from, Ian Happ, is probably alot better at him right now especially on offense
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Re: 2019-20 Offseason Rumors/General Chit-Chat

Postby Cubswin11 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:42 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:A friendly reminder that’s still better than Almora


Well no, Almora's topped that in the half decade IIRC only went below once. Anyway, the guy Pillar would most be taking PAs from, Ian Happ, is probably alot better at him right now especially on offense

OBP is only one metric to judge their value on, Almora is at .301 the last two years combined, Pillar is at .285 but Pillar has a higher wOBA and wRC+ in that period and ever since the BABIP dried up around June 2018 Almora is running a .280 and .270 OBP from June and July 2018-present.

And how would Pillar take ABs away from Happ when Happ is clearly better vs RHP and Pillar would just be the RHH caddy and late inning defense guy?
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