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Potential Kris Bryant trade thread

Postby Banedon » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:19 pm

It's time for this to get its own thread....there's enough smoke.

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Postby squally1313 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:28 pm

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Re: Potential Kris Bryant trade thread

Postby David » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:32 pm

very here for this being a repeat of the brian roberts and jake peavy threads.
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Postby Thed Hoyerstein » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:33 pm

feel like Trea Turner would make a lot of sense for the Cubs - excellent contact, speed, and creates a dynamic up the middle defense with him and Javy.
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thanks i hate it
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Postby The Logan » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:33 pm

horsefeathers it. Trade him. They're obviously not going to spend to make the changes they need to win and they don't have enough bargaining power in Contreras or Schwarber to bring back notable players to make those changes a reality. horsefeathers it. They're gonna do it, might as well accept it.
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Re: Potential Kris Bryant trade thread

Postby David » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:35 pm

The Logan wrote:horsefeathers it. Trade him. They're obviously not going to spend to make the changes they need to win and they don't have enough bargaining power in Contreras or Schwarber to bring back notable players to make those changes a reality. horsefeathers it. They're gonna do it, might as well accept it.


they don't really need to make major changes to win
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Re: Potential Kris Bryant trade thread

Postby The Logan » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:47 pm

David wrote:
The Logan wrote:horsefeathers it. Trade him. They're obviously not going to spend to make the changes they need to win and they don't have enough bargaining power in Contreras or Schwarber to bring back notable players to make those changes a reality. horsefeathers it. They're gonna do it, might as well accept it.


they don't really need to make major changes to win


You're right, but part of that hinges on Kris Bryant being your third baseman, does it not?
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Re: Potential Kris Bryant trade thread

Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:47 pm

David wrote:
The Logan wrote:horsefeathers it. Trade him. They're obviously not going to spend to make the changes they need to win and they don't have enough bargaining power in Contreras or Schwarber to bring back notable players to make those changes a reality. horsefeathers it. They're gonna do it, might as well accept it.


they don't really need to make major changes to win

We've been saying that for 3 years.
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Re: Potential Kris Bryant trade thread

Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:48 pm

Also, go eat a sandwich by yourself, Brandon. Effingham this thread!
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Re: Potential Kris Bryant trade thread

Postby David » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:50 pm

The Logan wrote:
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The Logan wrote:horsefeathers it. Trade him. They're obviously not going to spend to make the changes they need to win and they don't have enough bargaining power in Contreras or Schwarber to bring back notable players to make those changes a reality. horsefeathers it. They're gonna do it, might as well accept it.


they don't really need to make major changes to win


You're right, but part of that hinges on Kris Bryant being your third baseman, does it not?


yes, it does. that is why they should not trade him.
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Re: Potential Kris Bryant trade thread

Postby David » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:51 pm

Ding Dong Johnson wrote:
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The Logan wrote:horsefeathers it. Trade him. They're obviously not going to spend to make the changes they need to win and they don't have enough bargaining power in Contreras or Schwarber to bring back notable players to make those changes a reality. horsefeathers it. They're gonna do it, might as well accept it.


they don't really need to make major changes to win

We've been saying that for 3 years.


a span of time which includes an nlcs berth and a 95 win season.

5 years ago those two seasons would be up there with the seasons any of us alive remember most fondly.
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Re: Potential Kris Bryant trade thread

Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:52 pm

Ding Dong Johnson wrote:
David wrote:
The Logan wrote:horsefeathers it. Trade him. They're obviously not going to spend to make the changes they need to win and they don't have enough bargaining power in Contreras or Schwarber to bring back notable players to make those changes a reality. horsefeathers it. They're gonna do it, might as well accept it.


they don't really need to make major changes to win

We've been saying that for 3 years.

92 wins (NLCS), 95 wins (most in NL in regular season) and last years horsefeathers show the last 3 years. If you think the true talent is closer to 2017 and 18 (I do) than 2019, Pythag agreed, then yeah we don’t need major changes to win. Small tweaks to optimize things are going to put them in a plenty good spot to win 90+ and what more can you really ask for?
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Re: Potential Kris Bryant trade thread

Postby David » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:53 pm

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Ding Dong Johnson wrote:
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they don't really need to make major changes to win

We've been saying that for 3 years.

92 wins (NLCS), 95 wins (most in NL in regular season) and last years horsefeathers show the last 3 years. If you think the true talent is closer to 2017 and 18 (I do) than 2019, Pythag agreed, then yeah we don’t need major changes to win. Small tweaks to optimize things are going to put them in a plenty good spot to win 90+ and what more can you really ask for?


yep. find some guys who throw hard to see what sticks in the bullpen, get a serviceable starter, and replace trash like almora and descalso with competence (both by playing time allocation and actual personnel moves).
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Re: Potential Kris Bryant trade thread

Postby The Logan » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:56 pm

David wrote:
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they don't really need to make major changes to win


You're right, but part of that hinges on Kris Bryant being your third baseman, does it not?


yes, it does. that is why they should not trade him.


I agree, they shouldn't.

But they will, so I'm preparing for heartbreak.
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Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:57 pm

The Logan wrote:horsefeathers it. Trade him. They're obviously not going to spend to make the changes they need to win and they don't have enough bargaining power in Contreras or Schwarber to bring back notable players to make those changes a reality. horsefeathers it. They're gonna do it, might as well accept it.

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Re: Potential Kris Bryant trade thread

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:57 pm

Thed Hoyerstein wrote:feel like Trea Turner would make a lot of sense for the Cubs - excellent contact, speed, and creates a dynamic up the middle defense with him and Javy.


This would at least be interesting as a type of challenge trade. Turner at 2B putting up a .350 wOBA and above average defense is about a 4.5 win player(or basically Ozzie Albies), and he fixes some current roster holes. And with Kieboom about ready you could at least squint and see the justification for it from Washington's perspective.
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Re: Potential Kris Bryant trade thread

Postby UMFan83 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:01 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:
Ding Dong Johnson wrote:
David wrote:
they don't really need to make major changes to win

We've been saying that for 3 years.

92 wins (NLCS), 95 wins (most in NL in regular season) and last years horsefeathers show the last 3 years. If you think the true talent is closer to 2017 and 18 (I do) than 2019, Pythag agreed, then yeah we don’t need major changes to win. Small tweaks to optimize things are going to put them in a plenty good spot to win 90+ and what more can you really ask for?


True but they are claiming that they don't have any money to spend and are already down a starter, 2B, utility guy and several bullpen arms. We have to somehow fill those holes while dropping payroll.

Not saying that trading Kris Bryant is my first choice or second or 5th, and horsefeathers the Ricketts for makin them drop payroll, but I think minor tweaks will have us worse than before.
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Re: Potential Kris Bryant trade thread

Postby Derwood » Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:05 pm

This thread should be dropped into a hole
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Re: Potential Kris Bryant trade thread

Postby jersey cubs fan » Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:07 pm

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Re: Potential Kris Bryant trade thread

Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:08 pm

I'm rooting for this to happen only because I'm a ghoul who is entertained by misery. The fact that the actual Cubs are actually wanting to do it is hilarious.
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Re: Potential Kris Bryant trade thread

Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:16 pm

UMFan83 wrote:
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Ding Dong Johnson wrote:We've been saying that for 3 years.

92 wins (NLCS), 95 wins (most in NL in regular season) and last years horsefeathers show the last 3 years. If you think the true talent is closer to 2017 and 18 (I do) than 2019, Pythag agreed, then yeah we don’t need major changes to win. Small tweaks to optimize things are going to put them in a plenty good spot to win 90+ and what more can you really ask for?


True but they are claiming that they don't have any money to spend and are already down a starter, 2B, utility guy and several bullpen arms. We have to somehow fill those holes while dropping payroll.

Not saying that trading Kris Bryant is my first choice or second or 5th, and horsefeathers the Ricketts for makin them drop payroll, but I think minor tweaks will have us worse than before.

Right. But the roster we have doesn’t need “major changes to win” like David said and was then rebutted. I was making the case we likely only need some tweaks to a talented roster through FA and trades to win with this core. Which is really just the ability to spend that $20-30 million to be over just the middle LT tie, which gives us a good shot at 90+ wins and be division favs but the Ricketts are being little horsefeathers. Major changes are not NEEDED to win if we acted like a major market team in a competitive window.
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