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Postby squally1313 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:59 pm

Tryptamine wrote:I'd love to get Dylan Bundy depending on what the Cubs get out of Quintana. He's showing improved command this year and throwing his hittable fastball a lot less.

I too would love to get the best pitcher in baseball this year.
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:40 pm

What about Newcomb from the Braves? He got demoted, has a big arm and experience as both a starter and reliever...Out of the bullpen last year would work 95-96 up and there's a 78ish MPH curve in there that looks alright maybe
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:43 pm



I'm not going to listen and just say yes, yes he could...and should!
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:34 pm

Cubs: Miguel Amaya, C
Under club control through: at least 2026

The Cubs’ catching depth at the Major League level is solid with Willson Contreras and Victor Caratini, allowing them to consider moving Amaya, the team’s No. 4 prospect. The 21-year-old played in the Futures Game in both 2018 and '19, though he hasn’t yet played above the Class A Advanced level. Outfielder Brennen Davis (No. 3) would probably be more attractive to teams, but the Cubs are unlikely to deal him.


https://www.mlb.com/news/trade-deadline ... -team-2020

I wouldn't move him for less than a SP or Lindor, but yeah not really against dealing Amaya

Any interest in Michael Taylor from the Nats?
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Re: 2020 Trade Deadline Targets/Rumors

Postby Bertz » Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:20 pm



There's a ton in here, but one thing that stood out is that the Astros may start selling. Michael Brantley would REALLY help lengthen the lineup, and reduce the swing and miss issues

Brantley
Bryant
Rizzo
Contreras
Schwarber
Baez
Happ
Heyward
Kipnis

Team would still need a lefty masher for the bench and a pen arm, but horsefeathersing hell that lineup would destroy.
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Postby weis21 » Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:52 pm

Indians just put Brantley on the IL
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:57 pm

Oh yah, Brantley would be a pretty perfect add to the 2020 team. I like this idea better than Martinez because of that sweet sweet .375 OBP

^^ He's eligible to come off the IL on the 22nd, I think
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Postby Bertz » Sun Aug 16, 2020 3:42 pm

weis21 wrote:Indians just put Brantley on the IL


Ugh, that sucks. Reading about it though doesn't sound too bad, he should hopefully be back before the deadline. He might be limited to DH duty, which while not ideal isn't a huge issue here, and may be worth it if that lowers the asking price.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Sun Aug 16, 2020 7:34 pm

I wonder what it would take to get Springer. He’s a FA in the offseason, .900 OPS vs lefties.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:51 am

Jon Berti could be an okay target. Can play some OF, does the contact thing (80% plus in 2 of 3 years), 111 wRC+ vs lefties. He’s 30, can’t see him costing much and would help.
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Postby The Logan » Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:16 pm

weis21 wrote:Indians just put Brantley on the IL


Bold strategy, Cotton.
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:37 am

The Blue Jays DFA'd Anthony Alford and I'm not not interested. I see him as a possible late blooming Aaron Hicks type in that he's a former top prospect who is still a good age (26) and had enough going on including CF potential to still be interesting. He was the somewhat rare legit two sport guy out of HS in 2012, first round pick out of HS, played some NCAA QB terribly in 2012 before committing to baseball with the Blue Jays, and like Hicks was doing just fine as a prospect through AA at 22, really good stuff. Then he hit a wall, maybe started getting those nagging injuries, and hasn't really gotten it going since while still remaining pretty well regarded as far as intangibles, trying to make it happen yada yada. There's a solid approach including an 11% walk rate in the minors, some power, speed, and good defense...

One big, huge difference is that Hicks took 900+ ML PAs after debuting at 23 (Alford is at 75, very brief debut at 22) and wasn't outright a bad player in any of those, especially 25. Some details that might make up for that in (let's assume/pretend a more dynamic ML player development environment) are Alford's faster and a better defender, the Cubs have 3 starting OFers, Almora's on his last legs as a Cub...

With rosters expanded and especially with Souza out, I think he could be an opportunistic buy that gives the team a higher upside option than Almora in a role that actually has alot of room to make an impact (a 4th OFer that can spot the OF especially CF) this year and in the near future

Some MiL highlights:

.302/.380/.444 in the FSL at 20 over 255 PAs with a sub-20% K rate, follow up season there wasn't as pretty but included an IsoSLG well above league average and >10% BB rate

.310/.406/.429 in AA at 22 with, again, a sub-20% K rate and huge walk rate

I'm not coming up with a tl;dr because no one's reading that either

Edit: Alford's 26
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Postby Brian » Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:02 pm

bring Dan Vogelbach home, he'd get the same amount of hits as Almora but they'd be majestic dongs
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Postby Cubswin11 » Fri Aug 21, 2020 3:31 pm

I don’t think we’d give up what it requires, but he’d be absolutely perfect for us.

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Postby We Got The Whole 9 » Fri Aug 21, 2020 3:54 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote:The Blue Jays DFA'd Anthony Alford and I'm not not interested. I see him as a possible late blooming Aaron Hicks type in that he's a former top prospect who is still a good age (26) and had enough going on including CF potential to still be interesting. He was the somewhat rare legit two sport guy out of HS in 2012, first round pick out of HS, played some NCAA QB terribly in 2012 before committing to baseball with the Blue Jays, and like Hicks was doing just fine as a prospect through AA at 22, really good stuff. Then he hit a wall, maybe started getting those nagging injuries, and hasn't really gotten it going since while still remaining pretty well regarded as far as intangibles, trying to make it happen yada yada. There's a solid approach including an 11% walk rate in the minors, some power, speed, and good defense...

One big, huge difference is that Hicks took 900+ ML PAs after debuting at 23 (Alford is at 75, very brief debut at 22) and wasn't outright a bad player in any of those, especially 25. Some details that might make up for that in (let's assume/pretend a more dynamic ML player development environment) are Alford's faster and a better defender, the Cubs have 3 starting OFers, Almora's on his last legs as a Cub...

With rosters expanded and especially with Souza out, I think he could be an opportunistic buy that gives the team a higher upside option than Almora in a role that actually has alot of room to make an impact (a 4th OFer that can spot the OF especially CF) this year and in the near future

Some MiL highlights:

.302/.380/.444 in the FSL at 20 over 255 PAs with a sub-20% K rate, follow up season there wasn't as pretty but included an IsoSLG well above league average and >10% BB rate

.310/.406/.429 in AA at 22 with, again, a sub-20% K rate and huge walk rate

I'm not coming up with a tl;dr because no one's reading that either

Edit: Alford's 26
I would absolutely kick the tires on Alford. There are major contact issues but as you said we are talking about 75 PA. His plate discipline is all over the place and it makes me think he's never found a comfortable MLB approach, although the sample is too small to make real judgments on.

He could need the proverbial change of scenery.
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:16 pm

^ Appreciate it, I was sweeeeeaating while writing that post

Cubswin11 wrote:I don’t think we’d give up what it requires, but he’d be absolutely perfect for us.



Fletcher just doesn't have the track record to hold my interest for what they'd ask. Just 3 seasons ago he was posting a sub-.700 OPS between AA and the PCL. This feels like a trap for the team too impatient to wait the Indians out on Lindor, wouldn't be surprised if asking prices are very similar due to control

What about Wilmer Flores? He's got a career .505 SLG/.227 IsoSLG/.824 OPS against LHP
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Postby Named After Maddux » Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:40 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote:
What about Wilmer Flores? He's got a career .505 SLG/.227 IsoSLG/.824 OPS against LHP


Yes he makes a lot of sense. The Giants are also out of it so a Flores/Tony Watson combo is one that can probably be had for a minimal return.
I'm not Watson's biggest fan. Looks like his velocity is down a bit like many pitchers, but he's a perfectly cromulent LHP who doesn't allow walks. He's dropping his sinker usage and increasing his change-up rate, which is interesting to monitor.
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Postby Derwood » Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:52 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote: This feels like a trap for the team too impatient to wait the Indians out on Lindor, wouldn't be surprised if asking prices are very similar due to control


Lindor would fit right in on this team (what with his sub-.300 OBP and -0.1 WAR)
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Postby Brian » Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:59 pm

Addison Russ is trending on twitter and I thought it maybe some dumb team rescued Russell from South Korea, but there is actually a pitcher named Addison Russ that the Yankees just traded for

was real tempted to make a thread

"The Yankees are going to take a chance on Addison Russ"
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:00 pm

Named After Maddux wrote:Yes he makes a lot of sense. The Giants are also out of it so a Flores/Tony Watson combo is one that can probably be had for a minimal return. I'm not Watson's biggest fan. Looks like his velocity is down a bit like many pitchers, but he's a perfectly cromulent LHP who doesn't allow walks. He's dropping his sinker usage and increasing his change-up rate, which is interesting to monitor.


Yeah, pretty much what I was thinking. Both guys with some quality experience too, Flores has been to a WS and Watson was key to the last decent Pirates teams, something the Phelps and Chavez pickups lack

Flores would give them the flexibility to sell a little high on Bote this offseason too
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Postby Post Count Padder » Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:12 pm

Phillies traded for David Hale and now trying to swing a deal with Boston for Workman and Hembree. The pitching market is heating up. Deadline is 8/31 right?
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Postby Bertz » Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:25 pm

Post Count Padder wrote:Phillies traded for David Hale and now trying to swing a deal with Boston for Workman and Hembree. The pitching market is heating up. Deadline is 8/31 right?


Holy horsefeathers I didn't know the Phillies' bullpen had a 8.07 ERA until I went to MLBTR to read up on this more.
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:48 pm

Brian wrote:Addison Russ is trending on twitter and I thought it maybe some dumb team rescued Russell from South Korea, but there is actually a pitcher named Addison Russ that the Yankees just traded for

was real tempted to make a thread

"The Yankees are going to take a chance on Addison Russ"

Pretty wild that his first kid is already old enough to play in the majors
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