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Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

Postby Bertz » Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:54 pm



Looks like the Phillies, if they nab Realmuto, are going to push payroll even higher, nearing $200M. I'd imagine that doesn't affect us unless you're hoping for JBJ, CF is the obvious spot for them to upgrade and the Cubs could use one as well.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

Postby Post Count Padder » Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:13 pm

The Red Sox have asked at least one team for “a younger corner outfielder along with a minor-league pitcher not necessarily on the 40-man roster” as the trade return for Andrew Benintendi, WEEI.com’s Rob Bradford writes.


Ok so Cole Roederer and Michael Rucker?
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Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:33 am

I’m working under the assumption that Santander stays with the club. I’ve heard that he’s drawing interest. A scout from another organization said, “He’s out there for trade.” Keep an eye on the Marlins, who are looking for a right fielder. And keep in mind that these talks happen every offseason and often lead to nothing.


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Santander makes sense for the Cubs too. Switch hitter who doesn't K much including 15% in 2020, played all 3 OF positions, good MiL hitter, 26, coming off a breakout, cheap, probably not a big trade cost either
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Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

Postby Post Count Padder » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:30 pm

J.A. Happ to the Twins, one year and $8 mil
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Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

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Still don't hate the fit
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Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

Postby Bertz » Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:29 pm



This sounds like a last gasp to wring an extra couple million out of Philly. I wouldn't be surprised if he signs this weekend.
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Props on getting two years
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Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

Postby Bertz » Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:22 pm



Looks like the Angels haven't closed the door on acquiring a catcher after adding Suzuki.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

Postby Brian » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:37 pm

With multiple teams not spending and the usual suspects, I was wondering if there was a player making more than an entire team and no but it's close

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If the Cubs move Kyle Hendricks, it’s time to burn the whole thing to the ground.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

Postby The Logan » Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:34 pm

If they move Bryant and Hendricks to Toronto we better be getting one or two of their legacies back. You can squint to understand why we got what we got for Darvish because of his contract, but Hendricks has no reason to be traded other than "Why keep a good player if we intend to suck while he has value" and Bryant, issues aside, is still one of our most valuable trading chips.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

Postby Bertz » Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:34 pm

The Logan wrote:If they move Bryant and Hendricks to Toronto we better be getting one or two of their legacies back. You can squint to understand why we got what we got for Darvish because of his contract, but Hendricks has no reason to be traded other than "Why keep a good player if we intend to suck while he has value" and Bryant, issues aside, is still one of our most valuable trading chips.


Yeah, I think trading Hendricks would be a sign that we're fully turning the page. At that point you've absolutely got to do Contreras as well.

I actually don't like the idea of trading Bryant in that case though. If we're just fully trolling for value, hold onto the one year guys til the summer. At least one of them will go off and be mega valuable in July. Don't settle for modest value here in January.
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:35 pm

MLBTR wrote:Didi Gregorius, Marcus Semien, and Andrelton Simmons “are viewed within the industry as similar enough that no team is compelled to set the market with a contract,” according to Matt Gelb and C. Trent Rosecrans of The Athletic, This has created a lot of uncertainty about when any of the shortstop trio might sign, what their next deals might be worth, or what teams will eventually make the leap. Gelb and Rosecrans discussed the three shortstops with nine evaluators, who broke down the pros and cons of each player and ranked them 1-2-3 on a ballot.


Gregorius would look awesome on this roster. The longer these guys sit around the more potential they have to be Cubs, similar to when they snuck in on Darvish after the owners had successfully colluded down his FA (which includes knowing about the sign stealing during the WS and spinning it as pitch tipping through their media, claiming both being poor and also waiting on Next Year's FAs)

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The Red Sox are engaged in serious talks with free-agent starter Garrett Richards, a baseball source said late Friday night. While the sides have not reached an agreement, the talks picked up significant momentum Friday and could result in a deal in the coming days.

Richards is still talking with at least three other teams, though his discussions with the Red Sox are said to be “ongoing and evolving,” according to a source.


Richards would be nice, hopefully the Cubs are one of those teams. He would add a power armed veteran after Hendricks and Davies, could make it easier to trade a starter (Mills, maybe Davies) for an OFer

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Postby TomtheBombadil » Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:04 pm

Shucks...Rodon, Walker, Archer, even Matt Moore, Yang it is...Moore was in Japan during 2020, did really well and hit 95
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Postby Tryptamine » Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:07 pm

The Logan wrote:If they move Bryant and Hendricks to Toronto we better be getting one or two of their legacies back. You can squint to understand why we got what we got for Darvish because of his contract, but Hendricks has no reason to be traded other than "Why keep a good player if we intend to suck while he has value" and Bryant, issues aside, is still one of our most valuable trading chips.


I'm sure vlad and Bichette wouldn't be on the table and probably not Pearson, but I certainly would love to get something starting with Austin Martin and Simeon Woods-Richardson, grab a third like Manoah and that would be a haul.
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Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:07 pm

Fans overestimate trade values by default and i try to be understanding about the realities involved in getting a trade agreed upon(e.g. Darvish value was fine, just wrong proportions). But if you trade Bryant + Hendricks you have to have multiple really exciting pieces plus multiple others. I’m not completely unconvinced that could happen with Toronto but odds are I’m gonna be unhappy even if I set aside the emotional side of making that trade.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

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The Pirates are going to be so so so bad
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Postby Cubswin11 » Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:05 pm

Bertz wrote:https://twitter.com/Feinsand/status/1353081670640013317?s=19

The Pirates are going to be so so so bad

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Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

Postby Post Count Padder » Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:42 pm

That would be trading for the sake of trading. Taillon is still cheap and under control and his value is arguably at its lowest with him missing last year and most of 2019.
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Postby Named After Maddux » Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:15 pm

Tryptamine wrote:
The Logan wrote:If they move Bryant and Hendricks to Toronto we better be getting one or two of their legacies back. You can squint to understand why we got what we got for Darvish because of his contract, but Hendricks has no reason to be traded other than "Why keep a good player if we intend to suck while he has value" and Bryant, issues aside, is still one of our most valuable trading chips.


I'm sure vlad and Bichette wouldn't be on the table and probably not Pearson, but I certainly would love to get something starting with Austin Martin and Simeon Woods-Richardson, grab a third like Manoah and that would be a haul.


I’ve had a KB and Hendricks for Woods-Richardson, Groshans, Grichuk, and Stripling deal in my mind. Not that it would actually make me excited but I could squint and see how it fits into a 2022 timeline. Another guy in TOR’s system that makes sense is Gabriel Moreno, who could slide in and be a C a year behind Amaya in the system.
Still I go back to the premise that if you trade Hendricks, you need to seriously consider moving all Non-Happ players on the major league roster.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

Postby CubinNY » Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:36 am

My fever dream know is that the Ricketts trade every one, piss off javy and Rizzo to the point that it becomes impossible for them not to say something and Wrigley in 3/4 empty and so is their overpriced hotel. They can’t make payments and have to sell everything. The MLB owners lose their minds and let Cuban buy the team and we start all over. My fantasy world is so, so much better than the real world.
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Postby ConstableRabbit » Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:48 am

CubinNY wrote:My fever dream know is that the Ricketts trade every one, piss off javy and Rizzo to the point that it becomes impossible for them not to say something and Wrigley in 3/4 empty and so is their overpriced hotel. They can’t make payments and have to sell everything. The MLB owners lose their minds and let Cuban buy the team and we start all over. My fantasy world is so, so much better than the real world.

You fantasy world sounds like a horsefeathering nightmare.
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