Padres trade for Joe Musgrove

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Padres trade for Joe Musgrove

Postby Bertz » Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:21 pm



Musgrove was one of only 3 players on the Pirates to project north of 2 WAR. Also kind of have to wonder if Dinelson Lamer is still hurt.
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Re: Padres trade for Joe Musgrove

Postby mias_tisg » Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:22 pm

I've already seen Hudson Head mentioned, who would be better than anyone the Cubs got for Yu. I'm gonna be angry again when I see this return.
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Re: Padres trade for Joe Musgrove

Postby TomtheBombadil » Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:42 am

I like the the Mets pulling from the Dodgers' playbook and sneaking into a trade to make a pretty clever pickup. Lucchesi's a good add to a rotation that already has DeGrom, Stroman, Carrasco, and Peterson, plus has two option years remaining. The prospect they gave up has potential, switch hitting catcher Endy Rodriguez, but was also a distant second best teenage catching prospect with Alvarez there

I like the Padres' side of the Musgrove deal. He adds a healthy arm to a rotation with multiple TJs, including one with 142 combined innings in 2019-2020 (166 including MiLs), looking to make the leap from 60 to hopefully 162. Like Snell there might be some room to get better just by leaving an org with higher goals than trading him

The Pirates didn't get a bad return, but it's boring. Head's the SNT version of Roederer, strong Rk league debut at 18 and starting CF tools from a L/L OFer but without the 400+ solid PAs Roederer took at 19 in full season ball. Fellows and Bednar are relievers all the way, Bednar in particular has some really good stuff and solid performance as a MiL reliever. Cruz has SP potential but barring an unforeseeable jump in stuff is more in the mold of Ryan Yarbrough who'll get nickel and dimed over not being perceived/marketed as an Impact player
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Re: Padres trade for Joe Musgrove

Postby Derwood » Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:51 am

NL Central trying hard to be the NFC East of baseball
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Postby CyHawk_Cub » Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:58 am

Derwood wrote:NL Central trying hard to be the NFC East of baseball

"Flags fly forever!" is gonna give Cubs ownership tons of leeway to do whatever the horsefeathers they want, if my friends who utter the phrase are any indication.
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Re: Padres trade for Joe Musgrove

Postby mias_tisg » Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:19 am

CyHawk_Cub wrote:
Derwood wrote:NL Central trying hard to be the NFC East of baseball

"Flags fly forever!" is gonna give Cubs ownership tons of leeway to do whatever the horsefeathers they want, if my friends who utter the phrase are any indication.

Honestly don't see why anyone in the NL Central should try to do anything if MLB is gonna keep the dumb expanded playoffs. The fanbase is gonna celebrate "playoffs!" no matter how they get there, just have to look at the Bears.
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Re: Padres trade for Joe Musgrove

Postby TomtheBombadil » Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:23 am

mias_tisg wrote:
CyHawk_Cub wrote:
Derwood wrote:NL Central trying hard to be the NFC East of baseball

"Flags fly forever!" is gonna give Cubs ownership tons of leeway to do whatever the horsefeathers they want, if my friends who utter the phrase are any indication.

Honestly don't see why anyone in the NL Central should try to do anything if MLB is gonna keep the dumb expanded playoffs. The fanbase is gonna celebrate "playoffs!" no matter how they get there, just have to look at the Bears.


Yep. Do it with a lower payroll and they'll be back in both the league's and the fans' good graces too
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Re: Padres trade for Joe Musgrove

Postby Backtobanks » Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:33 pm

I'm still holding out for the hope that we play the same kind of schedule as last year. We might still look pretty good against the NL Central and AL Central teams with the exception of the Twins and WS. If we have to play against "real" ML teams, it's going to be pretty ugly.
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Re: Padres trade for Joe Musgrove

Postby Post Count Padder » Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:07 pm

Feels like the Pirates got a better return for Musgrove than they did for Cole, no?

Also Padres gave up a lot for a No. 3-4 starter, unless they think Lucchesi is broken.
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Re: Padres trade for Joe Musgrove

Postby TomtheBombadil » Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:56 pm

Post Count Padder wrote:Also Padres gave up a lot for a No. 3-4 starter, unless they think Lucchesi is broken.


Nah, Musgrove is a way better with a high ceiling in general. Lucchesi's competent enough and will help the Mets fill innings during the regular season, but if they make the playoffs he's not starting. The Padres have way more interesting lefties down their depth chart with Morejon and Gore
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Re: Padres trade for Joe Musgrove

Postby Post Count Padder » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:12 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote:
Post Count Padder wrote:Also Padres gave up a lot for a No. 3-4 starter, unless they think Lucchesi is broken.


Nah, Musgrove is a way better with a high ceiling in general. Lucchesi's competent enough and will help the Mets fill innings during the regular season, but if they make the playoffs he's not starting. The Padres have way more interesting lefties down their depth chart with Morejon and Gore

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Re: Padres trade for Joe Musgrove

Postby TomtheBombadil » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:19 pm

Post Count Padder wrote:Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


In the sense that a 90 MPH BOR starter with weak offspeeds and a shallower repertoire like Lucchesi is meat come October
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