Arenado's Cardinal Sin

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Re: Arenado's Cardinal Sin

Postby Tim » Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:28 am

NonProfitCow wrote:The Rockies are reportedly kicking in 50 mil for the mostly middling prospects.

I know this is a Cubs board, but the Cardinals just horsefeathering stole him.

You guys excited about Arozarena this year?
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Re: Arenado's Cardinal Sin

Postby NonProfitCow » Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:35 am

Tim wrote:
NonProfitCow wrote:The Rockies are reportedly kicking in 50 mil for the mostly middling prospects.

I know this is a Cubs board, but the Cardinals just horsefeathering stole him.

You guys excited about Arozarena this year?

He plays for Tampa, so, sure I guess?
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Re: Arenado's Cardinal Sin

Postby Bertz » Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:37 am





Feels like this makes those opt outs even longer shots.
So essentially 5 mediocre prospects for Arenado at 8/160ish.
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Re: Arenado's Cardinal Sin

Postby TomtheBombadil » Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:32 am

TBF they've definitely enraged a star player so the $50 million thing is a matter of opportunity
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Re: Arenado's Cardinal Sin

Postby UMFan83 » Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:13 am

Bertz wrote:https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1355371941809549313?s=19



Feels like this makes those opt outs even longer shots.
So essentially 5 mediocre prospects for Arenado at 8/160ish.


Perennially contending Cardinals with 2 playoff appearances in the last 5 seasons, 1 due to a pandemic that gave us 3 extra playoff spots in each league, 1 division title, haven’t gotten within 7 wins of a World Series or 3 games on a pennant

Yes I’m being a stickler but screw them
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Re: Arenado's Cardinal Sin

Postby ChiCubsFan » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:30 pm

Bertz wrote:https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1355371941809549313?s=19



Feels like this makes those opt outs even longer shots.
So essentially 5 mediocre prospects for Arenado at 8/160ish.


It should be 7/$214 not 8. He currently has 6/$199. With the $50M kicked in, that should put the AAV for the first 6 years around $25M and an extra year at $15M. Damn.
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Re: Arenado's Cardinal Sin

Postby d_money » Sat Jan 30, 2021 2:56 pm

ChiCubsFan wrote:
Bertz wrote:https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1355371941809549313?s=19



Feels like this makes those opt outs even longer shots.
So essentially 5 mediocre prospects for Arenado at 8/160ish.


It should be 7/$214 not 8. He currently has 6/$199. With the $50M kicked in, that should put the AAV for the first 6 years around $25M and an extra year at $15M. Damn.

Entering age 30 season, 7 year deal at $25M AAV and away from Coors. Like all big deals, will be interesting to watch his production in the latter half of the contract.
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Re: Arenado's Cardinal Sin

Postby TMan92 » Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:38 pm

d_money wrote:
ChiCubsFan wrote:
Bertz wrote:https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1355371941809549313?s=19



Feels like this makes those opt outs even longer shots.
So essentially 5 mediocre prospects for Arenado at 8/160ish.


It should be 7/$214 not 8. He currently has 6/$199. With the $50M kicked in, that should put the AAV for the first 6 years around $25M and an extra year at $15M. Damn.

Entering age 30 season, 7 year deal at $25M AAV and away from Coors. Like all big deals, will be interesting to watch his production in the latter half of the contract.


Exactly. Not sure this Cardinals team is in any position to state that this deal takes them anywhere close to over the top. Good for them but they are stockpiling a lot of old guys.
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Re: Arenado's Cardinal Sin

Postby wolf stansson » Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:50 pm

Tim wrote:
ManEatingTarp wrote:
ConstableRabbit wrote:I mean good for them, they see a time when they actually have a chance to be better than the Cubs on paper for the first time in like 5 years. But if you come at the king you best not miss. Especially with how that contract will look if he doesn’t make the post Coors adjustment.


Yup. That 5 years was just a huge chunk of history when you think about it.
Huge.

lol - hi cards fans. Glad you weren't in DC on the 6th.

lmao tarp been doing this to you guys once a year for almost two decades. respect.
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Re: Arenado's Cardinal Sin

Postby TomtheBombadil » Sun Jan 31, 2021 5:54 am

The bad: He'll probably going to go .300/.360/.500 a couple maybe a few times

The not bad in the sense that the Cubs will still win more than the Cardinals: He's got some shoulder joint injury that ended his 2020 early, could go .270/.320/.4?? a couple or a few times too

The Conspiracy: The MLB sent a particularly loyal franchise and fanbase their biggest contract ever, likes to frame them as a small market team, and he's the upstart young guy along with Flaherty expected to take them into The Future. All the ingredients are there to feed the age/salary/WAR algorithm and build much contract animosity and anxiety...These reptiles are basically playing 11th dimension chess and this is part of the long con for more NFL-esque contracts with fewer dollars being guaranteed
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Re: Arenado's Cardinal Sin

Postby The_Achiever » Sun Jan 31, 2021 7:32 am

The Cubs are such a dumpster fire than I can’t get worked up about what anyone else does.
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Re: Arenado's Cardinal Sin

Postby Cubswin11 » Sun Jan 31, 2021 7:44 am

The_Achiever wrote:The Cubs are such a dumpster fire than I can’t get worked up about what anyone else does.

The problem is the whole NL Central is a dumpster fire, regardless of this move. It’s a race to 85 wins +/-. The 2005 Padres won the west at 82-80, and that appears to be the lowest wins for a division winner ever in a 162 game season after a quick google search, the NL central may challenge that this year.
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Re: Arenado's Cardinal Sin

Postby d_money » Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:39 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:
The_Achiever wrote:The Cubs are such a dumpster fire than I can’t get worked up about what anyone else does.

The problem is the whole NL Central is a dumpster fire, regardless of this move. It’s a race to 85 wins +/-. The 2005 Padres won the west at 82-80, and that appears to be the lowest wins for a division winner ever in a 162 game season after a quick google search, the NL central may challenge that this year.

The 2006 Cardinals went 83-78 to win the WS. I’m still pissed about it
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Re: Arenado's Cardinal Sin

Postby Andy » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:51 pm

d_money wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:
The_Achiever wrote:The Cubs are such a dumpster fire than I can’t get worked up about what anyone else does.

The problem is the whole NL Central is a dumpster fire, regardless of this move. It’s a race to 85 wins +/-. The 2005 Padres won the west at 82-80, and that appears to be the lowest wins for a division winner ever in a 162 game season after a quick google search, the NL central may challenge that this year.

The 2006 Cardinals went 83-78 to win the WS. I’m still pissed about it

1994 AL West would've shattered this record had the season been completed. When the strike occurred, Texas was leading the division at 52-62.
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Re: Arenado's Cardinal Sin

Postby CyHawk_Cub » Sun Jan 31, 2021 7:52 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:
The_Achiever wrote:The Cubs are such a dumpster fire than I can’t get worked up about what anyone else does.

The problem is the whole NL Central is a dumpster fire, regardless of this move. It’s a race to 85 wins +/-. The 2005 Padres won the west at 82-80, and that appears to be the lowest wins for a division winner ever in a 162 game season after a quick google search, the NL central may challenge that this year.


Ownership nut huggers will be pitching tents when the Cubs win the division going 80-82. “Look how economically they created a division winner!”
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Re: Arenado's Cardinal Sin

Postby David » Sun Jan 31, 2021 8:16 pm

CyHawk_Cub wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:
The_Achiever wrote:The Cubs are such a dumpster fire than I can’t get worked up about what anyone else does.

The problem is the whole NL Central is a dumpster fire, regardless of this move. It’s a race to 85 wins +/-. The 2005 Padres won the west at 82-80, and that appears to be the lowest wins for a division winner ever in a 162 game season after a quick google search, the NL central may challenge that this year.


Ownership nut huggers will be pitching tents when the Cubs win the division going 80-82. “Look how economically they created a division winner!”


if we come out ahead of the dirty cardinals after their big move, i don't even care what the record is

but yeah youre right
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