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per AM1000 - Cubs Sign C Dioner Navarro, NOT Jaime

Postby waffle » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:34 pm

cubs signing Catcher Navarro?
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Postby BCVM22 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:34 pm

His agent announcing it as well. Looks like it.

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Postby UMFan83 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:36 pm

You shoud probably edit your title to say that.

Oh and thanks for noting that it was the catcher Navarro....I was worried that they dug up Jamie Navarro from somewhere.
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Postby waffle » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:36 pm

Not much pop, right? I have no idea as to his defense. Would be nice if it was above average.
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Postby davell » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:36 pm

And the Steve Clevenger era ends.

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Postby UMFan83 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:38 pm

Had a solid year in 2008 and actually made the All Star team, then was terrible for most of 3 seasons before 74 solid PA with the Reds last year. He's had a cumulative -0.6 WAR since his 1.7 WAR season in 2008 according to BR... 0.2 last year, but positive defensive WAR in all 5 seasons.

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.295/.349/.407/.757 (470 PA)

Slash line from 2009-2011:
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Slash line in 2012:
.290/.306/.449/.755 (74 PA)

FO hoping that tiny sample size was some sort of adjustment or rebirth for him, or at least enough for him to be a passable defensive backup catcher?
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Re: per AM1000 - Cubs Sign C Dioner Navarro, NOT Jaime

Postby rocket » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:45 pm

i'm really excited about this if it's 2003
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Re: per AM1000 - Cubs Sign C Dioner Navarro, NOT Jaime

Postby Sammy Sofa » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:49 pm

rocket wrote:i'm really excited about this if it's 2003


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Re: per AM1000 - Cubs Sign C Dioner Navarro, NOT Jaime

Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:50 pm

And we have an early favorite for the 2013 Joe Mather Award for worst WAR among Cubs position players.

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Re: per AM1000 - Cubs Sign C Dioner Navarro, NOT Jaime

Postby davell » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:52 pm

My guess is this is a minor league deal, so they can take Clevenger off the 40 man for now and they'll compete for an eventual roster spot. The extra 40 man spot is likely more important than either at this exact point.

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Re: per AM1000 - Cubs Sign C Dioner Navarro, NOT Jaime

Postby UMFan83 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:02 pm

KyleJRM wrote:And we have an early favorite for the 2013 Joe Mather Award for worst WAR among Cubs position players.


This would be like calling the Cy Young award the R.A. Dickey Award just because he won it the previous season. I don't know how far back you should go, but let's at least call it the Aaron Miles Award.
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Re: per AM1000 - Cubs Sign C Dioner Navarro, NOT Jaime

Postby ManCrushOnNomar » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:06 pm

UMFan83 wrote:
KyleJRM wrote:And we have an early favorite for the 2013 Joe Mather Award for worst WAR among Cubs position players.


This would be like calling the Cy Young award the R.A. Dickey Award just because he won it the previous season. I don't know how far back you should go, but let's at least call it the Aaron Miles Award.

It's the Neifi! Award.
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Re: per AM1000 - Cubs Sign C Dioner Navarro, NOT Jaime

Postby davell » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:08 pm

1.75 mill, per Heyman. Guess its a major league deal after all.

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Re: per AM1000 - Cubs Sign C Dioner Navarro, NOT Jaime

Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:11 pm

davell wrote:1.75 mill, per Heyman. Guess its a major league deal after all.


This is the kind of thing that got Hendry the nickname "Retail."

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Re: per AM1000 - Cubs Sign C Dioner Navarro, NOT Jaime

Postby Cubswin11 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:12 pm

UMFan83 wrote:
KyleJRM wrote:And we have an early favorite for the 2013 Joe Mather Award for worst WAR among Cubs position players.


This would be like calling the Cy Young award the R.A. Dickey Award just because he won it the previous season. I don't know how far back you should go, but let's at least call it the Aaron Miles Award.

According to Fangraphs, the Cubs player (pitcher or position player) who has compiled the lowest/worst career WAR is Jiggs Parrot, an 1890's 2B/3B. So I motion to call the award for worst WAR player on the Cubs, "The Jiggs Parrot Award." Respectively.

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http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?p ... &sort=19,a

Pitchers All Time Lowest War:
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Re: per AM1000 - Cubs Sign C Dioner Navarro, NOT Jaime

Postby bukie » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:13 pm

KyleJRM wrote:
davell wrote:1.75 mill, per Heyman. Guess its a major league deal after all.


This is the kind of thing that got Hendry the nickname "Retail."

*sigh*

Reminds me of the Reed Johnson signing last offseason.
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Re: per AM1000 - Cubs Sign C Dioner Navarro, NOT Jaime

Postby UMFan83 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:14 pm

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UMFan83 wrote:
KyleJRM wrote:And we have an early favorite for the 2013 Joe Mather Award for worst WAR among Cubs position players.


This would be like calling the Cy Young award the R.A. Dickey Award just because he won it the previous season. I don't know how far back you should go, but let's at least call it the Aaron Miles Award.

It's the Neifi! Award.


Strangely enough (largely because of mediocre, not bad defense), Neifi was never even close to the worst WAR on the team during his 3 season tenure with the Cubs. In fact, he had positive WAR in all 3 seasons.
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Postby bukie » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:14 pm

@BruceMiles2112: No surprise as #Cubs sign C Dioner Navarro. Theo indicated they would seek a veteran to push probable No. 1 catcher Welington Castillo
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Re: per AM1000 - Cubs Sign C Dioner Navarro, NOT Jaime

Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:14 pm

bukie wrote:Reminds me of the Reed Johnson signing last offseason.


Which I still hate.

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Re: per AM1000 - Cubs Sign C Dioner Navarro, NOT Jaime

Postby jersey cubs fan » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:16 pm

her?

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Re: per AM1000 - Cubs Sign C Dioner Navarro, NOT Jaime

Postby David » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:19 pm

davell wrote:1.75 mill, per Heyman. Guess its a major league deal after all.


And now I'm severely annoyed.
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Re: per AM1000 - Cubs Sign C Dioner Navarro, NOT Jaime

Postby treebird » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:22 pm

lol 1.75 million

apparently hendry was exploiting a market inefficiency with all though sweet henry blanco contracts

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Postby UMFan83 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:23 pm

bukie wrote:@BruceMiles2112: No surprise as #Cubs sign C Dioner Navarro. Theo indicated they would seek a veteran to push probable No. 1 catcher Welington Castillo


Well, I don't know how much pushing Navarro is going to do. Probably could have spent 750K and gotten a better option to perform well in spring training. Unless he means they need him to literally push Castillo, and if so the Navarro is the man for the job, but still not worth 1.75M
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Re: per AM1000 - Cubs Sign C Dioner Navarro, NOT Jaime

Postby David » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:25 pm

Treymon wrote:lol 1.75 million

apparently hendry was exploiting a market inefficiency with all though sweet henry blanco contracts


Blanco did make $3+M one year
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Postby jersey cubs fan » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:31 pm

money to burn


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