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Cubs acquire Loux and PTBNL for Brigham

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Cubs acquire Loux and PTBNL for Brigham

Postby davell » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:20 pm

WTF. Why would Rangers do that?

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Cubs trade Jake Brigham back to Texas for Barret Loux &PTBNL

Postby Butters » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:20 pm

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#Cubs acquire RHP Barret Loux and a player to be named from #Rangers for RHP Jake Brigham

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Re: Cubs trade Jake Brigham back to Texas for Barret Loux &P

Postby Rob » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:25 pm

Well that's certainly interesting.

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Re: Cubs trade Jake Brigham back to Texas for Barret Loux &P

Postby The Logan » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:29 pm

I don't know why the Rangers would agree to this trade, but I won't complain. Loux is a great addition
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Re: Cubs trade Jake Brigham back to Texas for Barret Loux &P

Postby Post Count Padder » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:30 pm

Well that's.....interesting. I absolutely love this.
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Re: Cubs trade Jake Brigham back to Texas for Barret Loux &P

Postby davell » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:30 pm

Seriously, why would Texas do that? Was Brigham hurt and Texas knew it when they traded him to us? I mean, this makes no sense. Unless Loux's arm is falling off again.

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Re: Cubs trade Jake Brigham back to Texas for Barret Loux &P

Postby XZero77 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:31 pm

davell wrote:Seriously, why would Texas do that? Was Brigham hurt and Texas knew it when they traded him to us? I mean, this makes no sense. Unless Loux's arm is falling off again.


That was my first thought.

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Re: Cubs trade Jake Brigham back to Texas for Barret Loux &P

Postby davell » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:33 pm

Evidentky, that exactly what happened. This is a reworked Geo trade. Cool.

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Re: Cubs trade Jake Brigham back to Texas for Barret Loux &P

Postby The Logan » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:34 pm

davell wrote:Evidentky, that exactly what happened. This is a reworked Geo trade. Cool.


So this essentially became Geo for Loux and a PTBNL? I like that very much.
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Re: Cubs trade Jake Brigham back to Texas for Barret Loux &P

Postby David » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:36 pm

Tell me why you're all excited. I don't know anything about Barret Loux.
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Re: Cubs trade Jake Brigham back to Texas for Barret Loux &P

Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:37 pm

What's the catch?

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Re: Cubs trade Jake Brigham back to Texas for Barret Loux &P

Postby Rob » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:38 pm

David wrote:Tell me why you're all excited. I don't know anything about Barret Loux.


Was the #6 or 7 pick in the draft a couple years back. Failed his physical and was declared a FA when the Diamondbacks decided not to try to rework a deal. Signed with the Rangers for $300k or so.

Great talent, questionable health.

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Re: Cubs trade Jake Brigham back to Texas for Barret Loux &P

Postby David » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:39 pm

Rob wrote:
David wrote:Tell me why you're all excited. I don't know anything about Barret Loux.


Was the #6 or 7 pick in the draft a couple years back. Failed his physical and was declared a FA when the Diamondbacks decided not to try to rework a deal. Signed with the Rangers for $300k or so.

Great talent, questionable health.


Ok, then. Now I see why everyone is excited. Sweet.
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Re: Cubs trade Jake Brigham back to Texas for Barret Loux &P

Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:39 pm

OK, the catch is that his arm is barely attached to his body.

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Postby davell » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:39 pm

David wrote:Tell me why you're all excited. I don't know anything about Barret Loux.

He was the 6th overall pick in the draft a couple years ago. Arizona voided his signing because of shoulder issues. Texas signed him for 450k or so. We were interested too. He went 14-1 with a sub 3.50 ERA in AA this year. Texas League too, complete hitters paradise.

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Re: Cubs trade Jake Brigham back to Texas for Barret Loux &P

Postby Rob » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:41 pm

KyleJRM wrote:OK, the catch is that his arm is barely attached to his body.


Basically.

Hopefully "badass minor league training staff" is a new market inefficiency.

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Postby The Logan » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:42 pm

David wrote:Tell me why you're all excited. I don't know anything about Barret Loux.


EDIT: others already said it better.
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Re: Cubs trade Jake Brigham back to Texas for Barret Loux &P

Postby David » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:43 pm

Anyone have a scouting report?
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Re: Cubs trade Jake Brigham back to Texas for Barret Loux &P

Postby davell » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:45 pm

Parks like Brigham's stuff better actually. Of course, he's hurt.

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Re: Cubs trade Jake Brigham back to Texas for Barret Loux &P

Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:50 pm

This article says he was a heavy signability pick at No. 6 overall and outlines the deal where he ended up not signing with Arizona:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=j ... acks080310

Here's his Lone Star Ball scouting report from February:
http://www.lonestarball.com/2012/2/9/27 ... ing-report

He threw ~130 innings this year before going on the DL with "fatigue." Peripherals were not above-average across the board but nothing eyepopping. His ceiling is considered pretty ordinary. But as always in our system, AA or AAA starting pitchers who are actually prospects are a nice plus.

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Re: Cubs trade Jake Brigham back to Texas for Barret Loux &P

Postby David » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:55 pm

Jason Cole ‏@LoneStarDugout
Interesting that the Rangers re-acquired Brigham for Loux. Brigham the slightly better prospect, for me, but not a top guy (nor was Loux).

Jason Cole ‏@LoneStarDugout
Loux had strong results at Double-A Frisco this season, but the stuff had taken a step back. I'll write him up tonight.

Adam J. Morris ‏@lonestarball
I thought so at the time of the deal. RT @GeoffEneman is Brigham better than Loux?

Jason Parks ‏@ProfessorParks
If healthy, Brigham has sharper stuff; better chance for impact. RT @webberoo11 @ProfessorParks Not sure i like Brigham more than Loux

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It was a right elbow strain that slowed Brigham with Cubs. Didn't need surgery.

Scott Lucas ‏@scottrlucas
Brigham vs Loux in Frisco:, facing almost same # of batters: 16 more Ks, 38 more swinging strikes for Brigham, but much more hard contact.
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Re: Cubs trade Jake Brigham back to Texas for Barret Loux &P

Postby davell » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:59 pm

Well, we need lefties and his FB sits low 90's supposedly. We have none of those guys. Plus, we still get a PTBNL. Still love it.

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Re: Cubs trade Jake Brigham back to Texas for Barret Loux &P

Postby David » Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:02 pm

davell wrote:Well, we need lefties and his FB sits low 90's supposedly. We have none of those guys. Plus, we still get a PTBNL. Still love it.


I think he's a righty...although I guess when his arm falls off he'll have to switch if he wants to stick around.
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Re: Cubs trade Jake Brigham back to Texas for Barret Loux &P

Postby Bruno7481 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:08 pm

Sounds very Randy Wells-ish to me.

88-91. Gets hurt when leaves ball up, below to average secondary stuff.

Had great stats, but the reports aren't very glowing. Health will always be a concern.

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Postby rawaction » Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:27 pm

Bruno7481 wrote:Sounds very Randy Wells-ish to me.

88-91. Gets hurt when leaves ball up, below to average secondary stuff.

Had great stats, but the reports aren't very glowing. Health will always be a concern.


From what I read/have heard, he's more 91-93 ish. Changes speeds well with his fastball, has an OK changeup, but can't get the curve or slider to do much. But I would say he has much more command than Wells. Not that Wells walked a ton of people (until this past year), but he just never seemed to be able to put the ball where he wanted it as well as I think Loux can...in the sense of missing bats, causing weak contact, making "pitcher's pitches". If the Cubs can get Loux's offspeed stuff to do anything, he could be a solid #3 starter.

But yeah health wise, he's probably always going to miss starts here and there in his career.


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