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 Post subject: Braves on the verge of signing BJ Upton
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:01 pm 
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BJ Upton in serious talks with #braves on mulityear deal, source says

Mark Bowman ‏@mlbbowman

Source confirms Braves are nearing the completion of a deal with B.J. Upton. @jcrasnick first reported talks were heating up

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:07 pm 
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It's been obvious for awhile now we had no interest, but I was still hoping we were just being super stealthy or something.

At least we still have our second-round pick!


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I'm OK with this development.

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 Post subject: Re: Braves on the verge of signing BJ Upton
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I'll wait until I see the figures before reacting. If he can be had for 5 or less years at 12-14 annually or less, then I might be a bit annoyed.


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Apparently it's 5 years and 70-75 million.


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Apparently it's 5 years and 70-75 million.


Pretty much exactly where I figured it would be. I'm not particularly upset. Now if they go out and get someone like Pagan at 12 annually then I'll be displeased.


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 Post subject: Re: Braves on the verge of signing BJ Upton
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Bourn is going to get an ungodly amount.

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Bourn is going to get an ungodly amount.


I really don't think so. Bourn is going to be 30 all season next year and for a guy whose value is dependent almost entirely on his legs, I think he'll get something similar to Upton.


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Bourn is going to get an ungodly amount.


I really don't think so. Bourn is going to be 30 all season next year and for a guy whose value is dependent almost entirely on his legs, I think he'll get something similar to Upton.



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 Post subject: Re: Braves on the verge of signing BJ Upton
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he's a guy i've always really liked and would have liked to sign, but a lingering doubt is when i remember looking at Crawfords H/R defensive splits and seeing how vast the disparity was there

fangraphs took away that functionality since then for whatever reason, so i can't verify if that held true for Upton as well, but i think it's fair to assume his numbers were aided in some way by the fast track at the Trop

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David wrote:
Tryptamine wrote:
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Bourn is going to get an ungodly amount.


I really don't think so. Bourn is going to be 30 all season next year and for a guy whose value is dependent almost entirely on his legs, I think he'll get something similar to Upton.



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I'm not referring to this post, but based on Twitter comments, I'm surprised by how many people view Upton and Bourn as being interchangeable. To a team with the money and need for two outfielders, they'd do perfectly well to sign both Upton and Bourn.

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he's a guy i've always really liked and would have liked to sign, but a lingering doubt is when i remember looking at Crawfords H/R defensive splits and seeing how vast the disparity was there

fangraphs took away that functionality since then for whatever reason, so i can't verify if that held true for Upton as well, but i think it's fair to assume his numbers were aided in some way by the fast track at the Trop


I thought Defensive #s for Boston LFs have always been screwy because of the monster.

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 Post subject: Re: Braves on the verge of signing BJ Upton
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yeah, Colin Wyers confirmed that (in the comments)

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And another one:

Red Sox outfielders, 2002-2009:

Home: -50.2
Away: 17.5


he also mentioned Safeco has been very favorable for Mariners OFs

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…if you still don’t trust a certain player’s UZR because of the park factors issue, you can check out his road numbers. Keep in mind that you will see lots of random differences between some players’ home and road numbers which have nothing to do with park effects – they are simply an artifact of small sample sizes. Remember also that even large sample sizes can have large random fluctuations as well.”

BUT YOU TOOK THOSE AWAY FROM ME

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 Post subject: Re: Braves on the verge of signing BJ Upton
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Holy [expletive], Colin Wyers IS a thing

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 Post subject: Braves on the verge of signing BJ Upton
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At that price I wouldn't have minded the Cubs get involved. But I'll withold judgement until I see the conplete offseason.


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