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Braves on the verge of signing BJ Upton

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Braves on the verge of signing BJ Upton

Postby David » Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:01 pm

Jerry Crasnick @jcrasnick
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BJ Upton in serious talks with #braves on mulityear deal, source says

Mark Bowman ‏@mlbbowman

Source confirms Braves are nearing the completion of a deal with B.J. Upton. @jcrasnick first reported talks were heating up
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Re: Braves on the verge of signing BJ Upton

Postby Exile on Waveland » Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:07 pm

Sigh.
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Re: Braves on the verge of signing BJ Upton

Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:08 pm

It's been obvious for awhile now we had no interest, but I was still hoping we were just being super stealthy or something.

At least we still have our second-round pick!

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Re: Braves on the verge of signing BJ Upton

Postby pitchcs » Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:13 pm

I'm OK with this development.
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Re: Braves on the verge of signing BJ Upton

Postby Tryptamine » Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:24 pm

I'll wait until I see the figures before reacting. If he can be had for 5 or less years at 12-14 annually or less, then I might be a bit annoyed.

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Re: Braves on the verge of signing BJ Upton

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:27 pm

Apparently it's 5 years and 70-75 million.

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Re: Braves on the verge of signing BJ Upton

Postby Tryptamine » Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:30 pm

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:Apparently it's 5 years and 70-75 million.


Pretty much exactly where I figured it would be. I'm not particularly upset. Now if they go out and get someone like Pagan at 12 annually then I'll be displeased.

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Re: Braves on the verge of signing BJ Upton

Postby David » Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:55 pm

Bourn is going to get an ungodly amount.
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Re: Braves on the verge of signing BJ Upton

Postby Tryptamine » Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:01 pm

David wrote:Bourn is going to get an ungodly amount.


I really don't think so. Bourn is going to be 30 all season next year and for a guy whose value is dependent almost entirely on his legs, I think he'll get something similar to Upton.

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Re: Braves on the verge of signing BJ Upton

Postby David » Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:09 pm

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David wrote:Bourn is going to get an ungodly amount.


I really don't think so. Bourn is going to be 30 all season next year and for a guy whose value is dependent almost entirely on his legs, I think he'll get something similar to Upton.



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Re: Braves on the verge of signing BJ Upton

Postby Sammy Sofa » Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:41 pm

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Re: Braves on the verge of signing BJ Upton

Postby sneakypower » Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:49 pm

he's a guy i've always really liked and would have liked to sign, but a lingering doubt is when i remember looking at Crawfords H/R defensive splits and seeing how vast the disparity was there

fangraphs took away that functionality since then for whatever reason, so i can't verify if that held true for Upton as well, but i think it's fair to assume his numbers were aided in some way by the fast track at the Trop
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Re: Braves on the verge of signing BJ Upton

Postby Slide Castro Slide » Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:59 pm

David wrote:
Tryptamine wrote:
David wrote:Bourn is going to get an ungodly amount.


I really don't think so. Bourn is going to be 30 all season next year and for a guy whose value is dependent almost entirely on his legs, I think he'll get something similar to Upton.



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I'm not referring to this post, but based on Twitter comments, I'm surprised by how many people view Upton and Bourn as being interchangeable. To a team with the money and need for two outfielders, they'd do perfectly well to sign both Upton and Bourn.

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Re: Braves on the verge of signing BJ Upton

Postby SouthSideRyan » Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:44 pm

sneakypower wrote:he's a guy i've always really liked and would have liked to sign, but a lingering doubt is when i remember looking at Crawfords H/R defensive splits and seeing how vast the disparity was there

fangraphs took away that functionality since then for whatever reason, so i can't verify if that held true for Upton as well, but i think it's fair to assume his numbers were aided in some way by the fast track at the Trop


I thought Defensive #s for Boston LFs have always been screwy because of the monster.
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Re: Braves on the verge of signing BJ Upton

Postby sneakypower » Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:48 pm

yeah, Colin Wyers confirmed that (in the comments)

And another one:

Red Sox outfielders, 2002-2009:

Home: -50.2
Away: 17.5


he also mentioned Safeco has been very favorable for Mariners OFs

Lichtman:
…if you still don’t trust a certain player’s UZR because of the park factors issue, you can check out his road numbers. Keep in mind that you will see lots of random differences between some players’ home and road numbers which have nothing to do with park effects – they are simply an artifact of small sample sizes. Remember also that even large sample sizes can have large random fluctuations as well.”

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Re: Braves on the verge of signing BJ Upton

Postby Castro's Spray Chart » Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:28 pm

Holy [expletive], Colin Wyers IS a thing
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Re: Braves on the verge of signing BJ Upton

Postby THISisTHEyear09 » Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:59 am

5yr/75mil

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Braves on the verge of signing BJ Upton

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:31 pm

At that price I wouldn't have minded the Cubs get involved. But I'll withold judgement until I see the conplete offseason.


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