Cubs agree to terms with Carlos Villaneuva..

bleedingblue · **Joined:** Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:28 am **Posts:** 590

According to Heyman.

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New York Cubs Fan · **Posted:** Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:47 pm

Does this mean no Jackson?

KyleJRM · **Posted:** Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:48 pm

New York Cubs Fan wrote:

Does this mean no Jackson?

Allegedly not. But it is kind of weird.

I think he's a bit overrated, but he should make for some nice depth and I like having him more than not having him.

WrigleyField 22 · **Posted:** Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:51 pm

Cool.

There just have to be a few trades on the way. Garza and/or Marmol are gone for non 40 man roster players. Plus a few cuts to fringy guys. Whats our total overage right now?

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BigbadB · **Posted:** Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:56 pm

I'll go ahead and wait until I see him in a Cub uniform at Spring Training before I get excited.

Andy · **Posted:** Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:58 pm

Decent lower rotation/innings eater guy. I'll take it.

Slide Castro Slide · **Posted:** Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:01 pm

He has relieved more than started over the past few years.

Starlin Fan · **Posted:** Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:02 pm

Garza
Samardzija
Wood
Villanueva
Baker/Feldman

hard to complain, especially when put up against the 2012 debacle

KyleJRM · **Posted:** Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:04 pm

I'm not even convinced he's better than Wood, let alone Feldman. It'd be odd if we promised him a rotation spot, but that's what he supposedly wanted to sign.

KyleJRM · **Posted:** Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:05 pm

BigbadB wrote:

I'll go ahead and wait until I see him in a Cub uniform at Spring Training before I get excited.

Make sure it's reported by someone other than Muskat that he's there.

New York Cubs Fan · **Posted:** Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:05 pm

KyleJRM wrote:

I'm not even convinced he's better than Wood, let alone Feldman. It'd be odd if we promised him a rotation spot, but that's what he supposedly wanted to sign.

Who are the odd men out if we also add Jackson?

Tryptamine · **Joined:** Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:13 pm **Posts:** 2939

Adding Villaneuva and still pursuing Edwin Jackson makes me real concerned that the Rumors about Garza's arm that ABTY was talking about are real.

New York Cubs Fan · **Posted:** Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:06 pm

I would think Villanueva ends up in the pen. I know he wants to start, but that doesn't seem to make much sense for us.

davell · **Joined:** Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:55 pm **Posts:** 9200

Cameron mentioned we signed all 3 of his value signings. Not bad. But I still want Edwin.

David · **Posted:** Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:16 pm

Kind of weird how good he was from May to August and then how crappy he was in Sept and April.

Is there a plausible explanation or just variance?

Walked WAYYY more guys as a reliever.

PleasewinCubs · **Joined:** Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:34 pm **Posts:** 456

If it is true we signed him, this is my pick for the signing we all look back on and love. I'm a fan of CV. He will help us.

d_money · **Joined:** Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:57 am **Posts:** 377

What are the parameters to the deal?

sneakypower · **Posted:** Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:36 pm

i like Liriano better, but not enough to majorly grouse about this

davell · **Joined:** Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:55 pm **Posts:** 9200

There's not an actual reason to carry a lefty in the rotation, right?

David · **Posted:** Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:43 pm

@CarrieMuskat: #Cubs are talking to free agent Carlos Villanueva & also Edwin Jackson. Nothing done yet

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS
Edwin Jackson is in play for #cubs. #rangers have some interest. #padres stopped at 3 yrs and bowed out yesterday.

mul21 · **Posted:** Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:51 pm

davell wrote:

There's not an actual reason to carry a lefty in the rotation, right?

I think I've seen numbers showing lefties fare better at Wrigley hitting, so I suppose having a lefty in the rotation who is the equal to a righty might have a small positive effect. But unless you're confident that lefty is as good or better than his RH competition, there's no reason to just arbitrarily have one in there.

abuck1220 · **Joined:** Thu Jul 03, 2003 6:03 pm **Posts:** 20250

no way they signed him to be a reliever.

KyleJRM · **Posted:** Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:59 pm

davell wrote:

There's not an actual reason to carry a lefty in the rotation, right?

I guess in theory it could help force other teams to mix players in and out of the lineup and break up their hitting rhythm.

But really, no.

Bruno7481 · **Posted:** Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:13 pm

Rogers says possibly one year deal for Villanueva.

Interesting...

Radar3454 · **Joined:** Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:49 am **Posts:** 437

I was hoping for a 3 year deal so we have him signed if he does as well in the NL as I think he will - hopefully we at least have an option

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