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Cubs agree to terms with Carlos Villaneuva..

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Cubs agree to terms with Carlos Villaneuva..

Postby bleedingblue » Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:47 pm

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Re: Cubs agree to terms with Carlos Villaneuva..

Postby New York Cubs Fan » Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:47 pm

Does this mean no Jackson?

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Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:48 pm

New York Cubs Fan wrote:Does this mean no Jackson?


Allegedly not. But it is kind of weird.

I think he's a bit overrated, but he should make for some nice depth and I like having him more than not having him.

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Cubs agree to terms with Carlos Villaneuva..

Postby WrigleyField 22 » Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:51 pm

Cool.

There just have to be a few trades on the way. Garza and/or Marmol are gone for non 40 man roster players. Plus a few cuts to fringy guys. Whats our total overage right now?


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Re: Cubs agree to terms with Carlos Villaneuva..

Postby BigbadB » Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:56 pm

I'll go ahead and wait until I see him in a Cub uniform at Spring Training before I get excited.

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Re: Cubs agree to terms with Carlos Villaneuva..

Postby Andy » Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:58 pm

Decent lower rotation/innings eater guy. I'll take it.

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Re: Cubs agree to terms with Carlos Villaneuva..

Postby Slide Castro Slide » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:01 pm

He has relieved more than started over the past few years.

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Re: Cubs agree to terms with Carlos Villaneuva..

Postby Rondon Fan » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:02 pm

Garza
Samardzija
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Villanueva
Baker/Feldman

hard to complain, especially when put up against the 2012 debacle
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Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:04 pm

I'm not even convinced he's better than Wood, let alone Feldman. It'd be odd if we promised him a rotation spot, but that's what he supposedly wanted to sign.

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Re: Cubs agree to terms with Carlos Villaneuva..

Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:05 pm

BigbadB wrote:I'll go ahead and wait until I see him in a Cub uniform at Spring Training before I get excited.


Make sure it's reported by someone other than Muskat that he's there.

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Postby New York Cubs Fan » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:05 pm

KyleJRM wrote:I'm not even convinced he's better than Wood, let alone Feldman. It'd be odd if we promised him a rotation spot, but that's what he supposedly wanted to sign.


Who are the odd men out if we also add Jackson?

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Postby Tryptamine » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:05 pm

Adding Villaneuva and still pursuing Edwin Jackson makes me real concerned that the Rumors about Garza's arm that ABTY was talking about are real.

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Postby New York Cubs Fan » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:06 pm

I would think Villanueva ends up in the pen. I know he wants to start, but that doesn't seem to make much sense for us.

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Postby davell » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:11 pm

Cameron mentioned we signed all 3 of his value signings. Not bad. But I still want Edwin.

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Re: Cubs agree to terms with Carlos Villaneuva..

Postby David » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:16 pm

Kind of weird how good he was from May to August and then how crappy he was in Sept and April.

Is there a plausible explanation or just variance?


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Re: Cubs agree to terms with Carlos Villaneuva..

Postby PleasewinCubs » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:34 pm

If it is true we signed him, this is my pick for the signing we all look back on and love. I'm a fan of CV. He will help us.

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Cubs agree to terms with Carlos Villaneuva..

Postby d_money » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:34 pm

What are the parameters to the deal?

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Re: Cubs agree to terms with Carlos Villaneuva..

Postby sneakypower » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:36 pm

i like Liriano better, but not enough to majorly grouse about this
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Re: Cubs agree to terms with Carlos Villaneuva..

Postby davell » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:43 pm

There's not an actual reason to carry a lefty in the rotation, right?

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Re: Cubs agree to terms with Carlos Villaneuva..

Postby David » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:43 pm

@CarrieMuskat: #Cubs are talking to free agent Carlos Villanueva & also Edwin Jackson. Nothing done yet

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Re: Cubs agree to terms with Carlos Villaneuva..

Postby mul21 » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:51 pm

davell wrote:There's not an actual reason to carry a lefty in the rotation, right?


I think I've seen numbers showing lefties fare better at Wrigley hitting, so I suppose having a lefty in the rotation who is the equal to a righty might have a small positive effect. But unless you're confident that lefty is as good or better than his RH competition, there's no reason to just arbitrarily have one in there.
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Re: Cubs agree to terms with Carlos Villaneuva..

Postby abuck1220 » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:57 pm

no way they signed him to be a reliever.

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Re: Cubs agree to terms with Carlos Villaneuva..

Postby Hairyducked Idiot » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:59 pm

davell wrote:There's not an actual reason to carry a lefty in the rotation, right?


I guess in theory it could help force other teams to mix players in and out of the lineup and break up their hitting rhythm.

But really, no.

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Re: Cubs agree to terms with Carlos Villaneuva..

Postby Bruno7481 » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:13 pm

Rogers says possibly one year deal for Villanueva.

Interesting...

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Re: Cubs agree to terms with Carlos Villaneuva..

Postby Radar3454 » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:44 pm

I was hoping for a 3 year deal so we have him signed if he does as well in the NL as I think he will - hopefully we at least have an option


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