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Re: 2017 Draft Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:07 pm

BA put out an early top 10 mock draft: http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/20 ... cd5qksW.97
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Postby Regular Show » Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:03 am

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:BA put out an early top 10 mock draft: http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/20 ... cd5qksW.97


Yeah I saw this earlier. Weird (to me at least) that they have J.B. Bukauskas going before A. Faedo. I like both pitchers, but I think once Faedo gets back to full strength he'll be the better pitching prospect. I'm worried that Bukauskas might end up only being a reliever (capable of being a dominant closer). Still, his mechanics are way better than C. Fulmer and he has more dominant stuff than S. Gray. I actually think he has a good changeup, too. We'll see what happens come draft time.
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:10 am



So I'm thinking Storz is my new favorite
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:11 am

Potential top 10 pick:



Apparently it's not his first suspension.
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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:16 am

Also Keston Hiura is such a classic Cubs/Theo pick. Sounds like he won't fall to 27, though.
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Postby texascub » Sat Apr 08, 2017 3:16 pm

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:Potential top 10 pick:



Apparently it's not his first suspension.


He seems to have attitude issues of some sort. He was suspended his first 2 starts of last season for conduct detrimental to the team. He made his start last Friday, but violated curfew during the trip to UCF and was only being moved to the bullpen. I wonder what he said/did after that to get suspended.
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread

Postby OleMissCub » Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:16 pm

Brent Rooker, a RS Junior OF for Mississippi State, is hitting .448/.558/1.008 with 15 HRs, 19 2Bs, 4 3B's, 56 RBI, and 14 steals in 33 games. He's having easily the best offensive season since the bat change to the BBCOR.

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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:34 pm

OleMissCub wrote:Brent Rooker, a RS Junior OF for Mississippi State, is hitting .448/.558/1.008 with 15 HRs, 19 2Bs, 4 3B's, 56 RBI, and 14 steals in 33 games. He's having easily the best offensive season since the bat change to the BBCOR.

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He's getting draft attention but he is older, so that'll hurt his draft stock:

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Re: 2017 Draft Thread

Postby OleMissCub » Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:02 pm

For comparison sake, this is what Schwarber did his final year at Indiana against (for the most part) inferior pitching.

.358/.464/.659, 14 HR, 16 doubles, 6 triples, 48 RBI

It's rare to see hitters be truly dominant in the college game since the introduction of the BBCOR bats.
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Postby Cubswin11 » Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:31 pm

OleMissCub wrote:For comparison sake, this is what Schwarber did his final year at Indiana against (for the most part) inferior pitching.

.358/.464/.659, 14 HR, 16 doubles, 6 triples, 48 RBI

It's rare to see hitters be truly dominant in the college game since the introduction of the BBCOR bats.

And we got two of them (maybe 3, don't remember Happ's stats) in Schwarbs, Bryant and Happ.
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread

Postby OleMissCub » Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:47 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:
OleMissCub wrote:For comparison sake, this is what Schwarber did his final year at Indiana against (for the most part) inferior pitching.

.358/.464/.659, 14 HR, 16 doubles, 6 triples, 48 RBI

It's rare to see hitters be truly dominant in the college game since the introduction of the BBCOR bats.

And we got two of them (maybe 3, don't remember Happ's stats) in Schwarbs, Bryant and Happ.


Happ's final season:
.369/.492/.672, 14 HR, 18 doubles

Bryant's:
.329/.493/.820, 31 HR, 13 doubles, 3 triples

God knows how many HR's Bryant hits (and fatalities he causes) if they were still using the old aluminum bats when he played.
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:23 pm

OleMissCub wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:
OleMissCub wrote:For comparison sake, this is what Schwarber did his final year at Indiana against (for the most part) inferior pitching.

.358/.464/.659, 14 HR, 16 doubles, 6 triples, 48 RBI

It's rare to see hitters be truly dominant in the college game since the introduction of the BBCOR bats.

And we got two of them (maybe 3, don't remember Happ's stats) in Schwarbs, Bryant and Happ.


Happ's final season:
.369/.492/.672, 14 HR, 18 doubles

Bryant's:
.329/.493/.820, 31 HR, 13 doubles, 3 triples

God knows how many HR's Bryant hits (and fatalities he causes) if they were still using the old aluminum bats when he played.


Bryant played his home games in one of the most pitcher-friendly stadiums in college baseball.
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Postby OleMissCub » Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:26 pm

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
OleMissCub wrote:
Cubswin11 wrote:And we got two of them (maybe 3, don't remember Happ's stats) in Schwarbs, Bryant and Happ.


Happ's final season:
.369/.492/.672, 14 HR, 18 doubles

Bryant's:
.329/.493/.820, 31 HR, 13 doubles, 3 triples

God knows how many HR's Bryant hits (and fatalities he causes) if they were still using the old aluminum bats when he played.


Bryant played his home games in one of the most pitcher-friendly stadiums in college baseball.


Here's what Harper did at age 17 at the little college he played at while using the old bats

.443/.526/.987, 228 AB's, 31 HR, 23 2b, 4 3b, 98 RBI

So ya, give Bryant those old bats and holy cow.
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:53 pm

Scout.com's mock draft: http://www.scout.com/mlb/scouting/story ... k-draft-10

27. Chicago Cubs - Clarke Schmidt, RHP, South Carolina

The Cubs have no issues with size and Schmidt reminds me of a better version of last year's third round pick, Thomas Hatch. Schmidt is almost universally a top 20 player in this draft. The only reason he would end up going later is if there are concerns about his height. Cubs won't care and the rich get richer. I would bet that, by this time next year, Schmidt will be one of the Cubs top five prospects, with a chance he would be considered the top arm in the system, depending on Cease’s development.


30. Chicago Cubs - Brady McConnell, SS, Merritt Island HS (FL)

Theo Epstein and crew have continually ignored any alternatives to prospects and gone after the best available player. That leads to Brady McConnell, who has the knock of already being 19-years-old by draft time, which we saw become a problem for Blake Rutherford last year. Regardless of how old he is or isn't, McConnell is a player who should hear his name in top-15 conversation. He will stick it out at shortstop, with plus-plus speed and some ability to hit for average. There's always a kid who teams kick their rear ends over when they see them at the Majors years later, and McConnell could easily be that player and blessing for any team that nabs him from the nay-sayers about age.
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread

Postby Agony and Ivy » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:44 pm

OleMissCub wrote:
CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
OleMissCub wrote:
Happ's final season:
.369/.492/.672, 14 HR, 18 doubles

Bryant's:
.329/.493/.820, 31 HR, 13 doubles, 3 triples

God knows how many HR's Bryant hits (and fatalities he causes) if they were still using the old aluminum bats when he played.


Bryant played his home games in one of the most pitcher-friendly stadiums in college baseball.


Here's what Harper did at age 17 at the little college he played at while using the old bats

.443/.526/.987, 228 AB's, 31 HR, 23 2b, 4 3b, 98 RBI

So ya, give Bryant those old bats and holy cow.


Harper played with wood bats and the Scenic West Conference is right up there with D1 conferences in terms of top end talent.
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread

Postby Cubswin11 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:46 pm

Are there any Cease or Giolito type guys in this draft, that would've been top 10ish picks but will go later due to TJS?
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread

Postby davell » Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:08 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:Are there any Cease or Giolito type guys in this draft, that would've been top 10ish picks but will go later due to TJS?


Nope. Been a healthy year for draftees. Seth Romero is a top 10ish talent, that got kicked off his team. Its not even the 1st time for him, I doubt we'd consider him, since makeup is super important to us.
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:38 pm

BA mock draft: http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/mo ... qX9TipI.97

27. Cubs

Chicago’s draft leaned heavily toward pitching last year, when it didn’t pick in the first two rounds, and is expected to again at least at the top to supplement a young, dynamic big league lineup. Righty Tanner Houck was expected to be a top 10 pick coming into the season but his stock has fallen with his fastball velocity, which now sits 90-92 mph. According to scouts, his arm action and delivery have changed for the worse since his freshman year, when he projected as the top pitcher in this draft class with a lightning-quick arm and 97 mph heater.

Pick: Tanner Houck, rhp, Missouri


30. Cubs

Looking for fastball velocity? Try Florida juco Nate Pearson, whose fastball has hit triple digits. Rival Florida juco Brendon Little, whom Pearson squared off against in February, also could be a fit here.

Pick: Nate Pearson, rhp, Central Florida JC
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:45 pm

Houck would be a gift. The kind of gift I'm hoping for on draft day even. He is my favorite college arm this year along with UNC Oswalt.
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:13 am

Clarke Schmidt, who has been mocked in the area of the Cubs picks, left tonight's South Carolina game with an injury:

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Postby toonsterwu » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:59 am

I've actually been somewhat stunned at Adam Haseley's meteoric rise up the charts. At one point last year, I really wondered if he would be a better pitcher than a hitter, but now, he's supposed to be the top college OF? I get why (the numbers are stunning this year, but most importantly, the power development), but it's been a huge shock. I'm not absolutely convinced that he's a CF at the next level (long term that is, could see it in his youth perhaps).
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Postby Regular Show » Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:34 am

toonsterwu wrote:I've actually been somewhat stunned at Adam Haseley's meteoric rise up the charts. At one point last year, I really wondered if he would be a better pitcher than a hitter, but now, he's supposed to be the top college OF? I get why (the numbers are stunning this year, but most importantly, the power development), but it's been a huge shock. I'm not absolutely convinced that he's a CF at the next level (long term that is, could see it in his youth perhaps).


Not a lot of advanced college bats this yr besides B. McKay (who might go as a LHP) so I think that helps explain it? I like A. Haseley too, but it is a little weird that he is the top college OF. Definitely get some T. Crowe vibes and reminds me of other advanced college bats that were 'tweeners. He should end up being better than T. Crowe (I think).

I don't like the hitting prospects on either the HS or college side in this draft class. Actually the one hitter who has really impressed me is A. Toral, who I believe is committed to U of Miami. Great swing, but he's a first baseman all the way meaning he has to hit. I doubt this current Cubs FO would value HS 1B/DH prospects like D. Vogelbach or A. Toral that highly since that demographic is so risky.

I do like N. Pearson and D. Tillo as pitching prospects at the Juco level. Pearson is really impressing me, but I didn't know he was rising all the way into 1st round consideration. That would be a great choice.
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:16 am

I would gladly take Schmidt in the 2nd round. Wouldn't risk 27 or 30, though.

Two-way player Brendan McKay, who is a likely top 5 pick, hit 4 HRs today for Louisville. Sounds like more teams prefer him as a pitcher.
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread

Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:17 pm

Law's top 50 came out today, any names/capsules anyone wants posted of guys we might take?
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