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Re: 2018 Draft Thread

Postby Regular Show » Sun May 20, 2018 12:32 am



His curveball is pretty sick. It's one of the best ones in the draft IMO. Not sure if he can develop into a starter long-term and the injury concerns are a problem. I would take Cate if he were still available at 62.
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Postby Regular Show » Mon May 21, 2018 12:22 am





So for the younger people here MLB used to conduct the draft in a really stupid way (way behind the other sports). They used to send a letter announcing you were selected in the MLB draft, but not tell you which round or the pick. It was really stupid and agents/journalists had to work really hard to figure out the order.

I remember learning about this concept in an economics class a long time ago. It's called information asymmetry -- where one party in a transaction or system has access to more information than the other party leading to an advantage. I'm probably not explaining the concept that well, but I'm pretty sure that is what MLB was trying to do. Great way of marketing your draft MLB execs by keeping everyone in the dark including the fans and the players selected.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Mon May 21, 2018 8:34 am



Jacob Lopez is a LHP and Corbin Williams an OF, both from College of the Canyons (a junior college).

Clay Owens is a catcher from Santiago HS. BA ranks him 442.
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Postby TomtheBombadil » Mon May 21, 2018 11:23 am

Those are the kind of prospects that fill out of a draft behind some big spending up top. Lopez is perfect for that kind of draft in the rounds 3-10 range, college arm that can start in the lower minors to gain experience and innings before converting to a reliever with an interesting arm angle from the left side.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread

Postby Tim » Mon May 21, 2018 2:46 pm

Regular Show wrote:I remember learning about this concept in an economics class a long time ago. It's called information asymmetry -- where one party in a transaction or system has access to more information than the other party leading to an advantage. I'm probably not explaining the concept that well, but I'm pretty sure that is what MLB was trying to do. Great way of marketing your draft MLB execs by keeping everyone in the dark including the fans and the players selected.

Good book on the subject.
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Postby Regular Show » Mon May 21, 2018 10:30 pm

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Regular Show wrote:I remember learning about this concept in an economics class a long time ago. It's called information asymmetry -- where one party in a transaction or system has access to more information than the other party leading to an advantage. I'm probably not explaining the concept that well, but I'm pretty sure that is what MLB was trying to do. Great way of marketing your draft MLB execs by keeping everyone in the dark including the fans and the players selected.

Good book on the subject.


Yeah, I've heard of the book. I'll try checking it out and I bet one of my friends already has it.

Sounds interesting for sure. Thanks
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Postby UK » Mon May 21, 2018 11:55 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote:Water gun to face I would take Rolison over Gilbert. RHs with Gilbert’s stuff are a dime a dozen....Neither guy does it for me at 24 as the Cubs don’t *need* anything more from the farm this decade, but Rolison’s got the pitches to do what Little was probably hoped to do last year

I think Gilbert ends up going to Seattle


Both would be great picks if selected by the Cubs, IMO.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread

Postby Bruno7481 » Tue May 22, 2018 9:55 am

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:https://twitter.com/savermetrics/status/998401494792769536?s=21

Jacob Lopez is a LHP and Corbin Williams an OF, both from College of the Canyons (a junior college).

Clay Owens is a catcher from Santiago HS. BA ranks him 442.


Borden was invited to Wrigley last weekend but couldn’t attend. State rules won’t allow him to workout while he is still in season.
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Postby UK » Tue May 22, 2018 10:31 am

Bruno7481 wrote:
CaliforniaRaisin wrote:https://twitter.com/savermetrics/status/998401494792769536?s=21

Jacob Lopez is a LHP and Corbin Williams an OF, both from College of the Canyons (a junior college).

Clay Owens is a catcher from Santiago HS. BA ranks him 442.


Borden was invited to Wrigley last weekend but couldn’t attend. State rules won’t allow him to workout while he is still in season.


That's an idiotic state rule.
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Postby Bruno7481 » Tue May 22, 2018 12:37 pm

UK wrote:
Bruno7481 wrote:
CaliforniaRaisin wrote:https://twitter.com/savermetrics/status/998401494792769536?s=21

Jacob Lopez is a LHP and Corbin Williams an OF, both from College of the Canyons (a junior college).

Clay Owens is a catcher from Santiago HS. BA ranks him 442.


Borden was invited to Wrigley last weekend but couldn’t attend. State rules won’t allow him to workout while he is still in season.


That's an idiotic state rule.


Yep. I can’t see a reasonable explanation for it to exist. Sucks for the kid.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread

Postby Tedward » Tue May 22, 2018 2:52 pm

The Athletic has posted their 1st round Mock
They have the Cubs selecting Greyson Jenista, OF Wichita State
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Postby Bertz » Tue May 22, 2018 3:14 pm

If they think he's actually a CF I could get behind that pick. Even as a RF I might not mind it if he's under slot.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread

Postby Regular Show » Tue May 22, 2018 9:03 pm

Tedward wrote:The Athletic has posted their 1st round Mock
They have the Cubs selecting Greyson Jenista, OF Wichita State


It's not a terrible mock draft (it's good), but I'd rather take every prospect selected after the Cubs pick in this mock over Greyson Jenista. That list includes: Steele Walker, Brice Turang, Mason Denaburg, Cole Winn, Xavier Edwards, and Connor Scott.

He's a good athlete, but there are questions about his bat. Most scouting reports say he'll have to move to a COF spot, but has a chance to stick in CF. He's already really big at 6'4" and 240 lbs. so my gut is telling me he moves over to a corner outfield spot. I like Greyson Jenista, but there will be other players available I like more.

He did hit really well in the Cape Cod League last year albeit with no power. I feel like he'll go somewhere in the second round.

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Re: 2018 Draft Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Wed May 23, 2018 5:29 pm

Two HS pitchers that missed time to injury this year, Mike Vasil and Mason Denaburg, made their returns yesterday:



https://www.mlb.com/news/latest-2018-ml ... -277888816

Facing powerhouse American Heritage and potential first-rounder Triston Casas, the right-hander went six scoreless innings and struck out nine, including Casas twice. But one scouting executive on hand summed it up succinctly when asked how Denaburg looked: "Healthy," he said.

Denaburg threw his fastball in the 87-94 mph range and was able to throw a full allotment of offspeed stuff. His changeup was particularly solid, though he was a bit more inconsistent with his breaking ball. His curve ranged from below average to above average at different times, which is not all that surprising given his time away from the mound.

"He for sure put people more at ease by going six innings," a scout in attendance said.

Meanwhile in New England, fellow right-hander Mike Vasil (No. 21 on the Top 100) made his first appearance since walking off the mound in April holding his elbow. On a strict pitch count of 50, Vasil made the most of it, striking out six in four scoreless frames.

Vasil threw his fastball in the 90-95 mph range and sat around 92 mph. Like Denaburg, his changeup was very effective, flashing plus, while his curveball was more fringe-average.


I'm meh on both guys. They're decent enough prospects, nothing really wrong with them beyond being HS pitchers with recent arm injuries, but not really the level of talent that appeals to me this year and might reach the Cubs.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread

Postby OleMissCub » Wed May 23, 2018 7:54 pm

Theo is sitting in the stands at the SEC tournament watching Auburn and Ole Miss. Rolison is currently pitching for the Rebels.
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OleMissCub wrote:Theo is sitting in the stands at the SEC tournament watching Auburn and Ole Miss. Rolison is currently pitching for the Rebels.


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Re: 2018 Draft Thread

Postby OleMissCub » Wed May 23, 2018 8:18 pm

Burns just hit 96 on a K. He’s a stud. He’s got a big payday coming one day. Rolison hasn’t given up a hit thru 4 and has 5k’s.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread

Postby Regular Show » Thu May 24, 2018 4:00 am



I'm reading a bunch of tweets about college pitchers throwing a ton of pitches on short rest. Not cool...
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Postby Cubswin11 » Thu May 24, 2018 4:01 am

Regular Show wrote:

I'm reading a bunch of tweets about college pitchers throwing a ton of pitches on short rest. Not cool...

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Postby Hrubes20 » Thu May 24, 2018 3:30 pm

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:https://twitter.com/baseballamerica/status/999621252905127936?s=21


That write-up was fairly terrible. Basically it was "Cubs have drafted tons of pitchers, so they're going to take a pitcher again in the 1st". This of course flies in the face of what the entire FO has already said, in that bats are definitely in play.

Edit: But yes please on Wilcox, depending on what bats are there.
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Postby Hrubes20 » Thu May 24, 2018 3:54 pm

OleMissCub wrote:Theo is sitting in the stands at the SEC tournament watching Auburn and Ole Miss. Rolison is currently pitching for the Rebels.


This doesn't please me, especially since Rolison was pretty sharp yesterday. Reminds me of when Zastryzny had a really good tourney in front of the Cubs brass and they fell in love with him.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread

Postby davell » Thu May 24, 2018 4:10 pm

I'm not too worried about it honestly. Its our 2nd rounder we seemingly go with the "his stuff ticked up late" guy..... Stinnett, Rob Z, Abbott, might even be forgetting one.
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