2020 Draft Thread

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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:05 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote:https://twitter.com/CarlosACollazo/status/1235770508014161920?s=20

If Bradfield is showing power like that he joins the multiple LHH CFs possibly worth a first round pick. Interesting that the league's short on and CFs maybe and magically this draft has (no order) Kjerstad, Mitchell, Veen, Hendrick, Crow-Armstrong, Hassell, Greene, and Bradfield at least with first round and some CF potential with guys like Kelenic and Josh Lowe maybe ready to debut this season. My first thoughts go to things like reptilians, clones, and sleeper agents with families like in The Americans



I agree with your general premise that this is a a atrong dradt at CF but Kjerstad is already a corner OF and everything I’ve read leads me to believe Hendrick is destined to be a corner OF professionally.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:54 pm

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
TomtheBombadil wrote:https://twitter.com/CarlosACollazo/status/1235770508014161920?s=20

If Bradfield is showing power like that he joins the multiple LHH CFs possibly worth a first round pick. Interesting that the league's short on and CFs maybe and magically this draft has (no order) Kjerstad, Mitchell, Veen, Hendrick, Crow-Armstrong, Hassell, Greene, and Bradfield at least with first round and some CF potential with guys like Kelenic and Josh Lowe maybe ready to debut this season. My first thoughts go to things like reptilians, clones, and sleeper agents with families like in The Americans



I agree with your general premise that this is a a atrong dradt at CF but Kjerstad is already a corner OF and everything I’ve read leads me to believe Hendrick is destined to be a corner OF professionally.


Honestly, I'd guess Crow-Armstrong is the only one that is a straightforward CF prospect right now. Mitchell has all the tools but questions about durability Collazo mentioned thanks to his diabetes. Veen might be whatever he wants to be maybe. Greene and Bradfield might seem pretty close with a strong Spring. Hassell's weird since as a LHP he can hit 93 with a curveball. Agreed on Kjerstad and Hendrick
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby Hrubes20 » Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:30 pm

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:https://twitter.com/cespedesbbq/status/1236133524907929605?s=21


That's really fun to see. I definitely need to be brushing up on the college players this year with Dan Kantrovitz heading up the draft. He's been running a team's draft since 2012 and has only taken a HS player 1 time in the 1st round. That includes the multiple competitive balance 1st round picks he's had the past 5 years in Oakland. He seems to take plenty of overslot prep players in the 2-5 rounds (with decent success there, I might add), but it appears to be a really conservative 1st round philosophy.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Wed Mar 11, 2020 5:32 am



Today it’s the 2022 draft’s turn to make us feel old.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby weis21 » Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:54 am

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:https://twitter.com/benbadler/status/1237466210486439937?s=21

Today it’s the 2022 draft’s turn to make us feel old.

I hope Druw makes it solely because I always enjoyed saying “Andruw Jones” like Mike Tyson would and I hope that tradition can be carried down to my son.

That is if he can at some point before puberty correctly identify sports. He pointed at a football yesterday and asked if we could throw the baseball...
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:34 am

That batflip :shock:
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Wed Mar 11, 2020 5:58 pm



Strictly ranking HS/preps: Veen, Howard, and Abel is their top 3...Hassel takes 4, Crow-Armstrong at 6...Tyler Soderstrom, yet another LHH bat with first round potential in this draft, is 5...No Victor Mederos in the top 10 HSers, he and Veen faced off in February with Mederos getting a couple groundouts and hitting 97 with an 89 MPH changeup


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A non-first college bat I don't hate for the Cubs is 1B Alex Toral. Former top amateur having a plate discipline breakout this year after a stromg season last year. He did struggle in the Cape tho
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

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I like the chutzpah on this guy, listed at 5'9" on PG's website but does a passable Mackenzie Gore impression. All I'd ask is for > or = Faustino Carrera probably. Wild that Gore is such a legend before the MLs that he already has imitators

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Garrett Crochet actually returned to action last week, another possible first round college arm preferably not the Cubs

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Was/Is having a breakout season including a 5+ K:BB and leading the SEC in IP

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Werner Blakely as the non-first Ed Howard alternate for HS good glove SS with a huge frame...6'4" and a LHH too
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:21 pm

Meh:

IFA's could be scrapped too.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:58 am

More Veen like:

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Maybe a more realistic possibly high ceiling LHH:



and a HS pitcher that seems alright:

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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby Bertz » Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:00 pm

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:Meh:

IFA's could be scrapped too.


Looks like this got averted

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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:19 pm

Bertz wrote:
CaliforniaRaisin wrote:Meh:

IFA's could be scrapped too.


Looks like this got averted



A 10 round draft still sucks and if NDFAs are only going to get $10k, so much talent is going to end up returning/going to schools (JCs or 4-year schools).

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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:39 pm

Color me shocked that the plan is mostly pushing talent to the NCAA cartel, who IIRC will be renegotiating their media rights over the next 3 years
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby Cubswin11 » Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:55 pm

This is such a dumb measure to save money. It’s not even that much in savings and draft picks are, you know, the supply that keeps the whole product going.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby Bertz » Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:50 pm

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
Bertz wrote:
CaliforniaRaisin wrote:Meh:

IFA's could be scrapped too.


Looks like this got averted



A 10 round draft still sucks and if NDFAs are only going to get $10k, so much talent is going to end up returning/going to schools (JCs or 4-year schools).



Yeah this is going to push a lot of kids back to school, and the 2021 draft is going to have way too many guys to all realistically get paid. Hopefully HS kids in particular choose school this year to minimize the number of Juniors who get horsefeathersed over as seniors next year.

Also, I wonder if this creates the situation, either this year or next, where it actually makes sense to blow through your draft budget and lose a few future 1st round picks.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby UK » Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:38 pm

(Given the status of the draft) They should be bring back DF&Es or better yet, allow college kids to be drafted before they get near their 21st birthday for the next two drafts.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:55 pm

UK wrote:(Given the status of the draft) They should be bring back DF&Es or better yet, allow college kids to be drafted before they get near their 21st birthday for the next two drafts.


I like it.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:05 pm

^^ Yes please. In general, the MLBPA needs to get eligibility down to one season for NCAA interns under the next CBA but probably won't
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Fri Mar 27, 2020 1:00 am



5 rounds? The Cardinals will still get 20 picks somehow.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:49 am

Callis when ask if and how teams can prep for the draft:

I've talked to several scouting officials, and the consensus is that there will be no more game looks at college or high school players. There's talk of trying to put together combines for top prospects, but some executives think that many of the best players may decline to attend.

It's quite possible that teams already have all of the game and performance details they're going to get before the Draft, whenever it winds up being held. Between now and the Draft, they'll probably dig more into video than they would in a normal year. While that's not optimal, all teams face the same situation.

Tigers GM Al Avila, whose club owns the No. 1 overall pick for the second time in three years, told reporters that Detroit already has compiled hundreds of scouting reports and would be prepared to draft immediately if needed. Scouting executives I've spoken to said their teams would be ready whenever they're told to draft.

"Is this ideal? Of course not," a scouting official with an American League club said. "But we've all seen players and built some kind of database on most of them."


Sounds about right, even the public coverage of this draft was crazy heavy compared to year's past and the first round names are still the same ones going back to last Spring if not further. Shrink it to 10 rounds, figure out who is down to sign for cheaper than it's already been, and this should be a cake walk compared to getting the actual season played
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:00 pm

On top of that, teams and agents expect fewer high school players to sign this year, with fewer opportunities and less money to go around.

“What is MLB trying to do?” asked one agent. “Get as many athletes into the game as possible? What’s going to happen when you have five rounds? Kids are going to play basketball.

“For amateurs to just always be the sacrificial lamb in the draft or international draft. Like, guys, it’s one thing after another over the last decade on this, to overcompensate.”


https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories ... gning-day/
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:26 pm

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/in-the-time ... eur-draft/

Longenhagen and earlier Ken Rosenthal suggest slot and pool money will be the same as 2019...Pick 16 had a slot value of $3,745,500 in 2019

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An agent I spoke with yesterday thinks MLB will continue to operate in ways that funnel talent toward NCAA baseball. It’s a free source of player development and provides more reliable data to teams, which they can lean on as a means of evaluation, which, in turn, also allows them to shrink scouting departments to further cut costs.


Covid-19 only sped up what's been in the works for say a decade, but yeah this blows and will continue to blow
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