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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Thu Jan 09, 2020 5:49 am

Feel however you want to feel, there is no way you get to post other people's freely available content and then claim domain over who gets to comment and what gets said
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Thu Jan 09, 2020 5:51 am

Regular Show wrote:Again, it doesn't matter if it's "original content" or something else in my post. I want zero interaction between us here and I want you to completely ignore my posts.

Trust me, my PMs to Raisin contain plenty of original content and my opinions on draft prospects and mock drafts and breakdowns...

Well, I guess I'm just going to keep discussing it privately then. Sorry guys


Again, you’re welcome to post or not post whatever you like. You are not welcome to dictate who can interact with the things you post. If that means you don’t end up posting about something, that’s okay. I’m also not sure that blackmailing your posts on the least trafficked forum is the leverage you think it is, but that’s really secondary to the absurdity of thinking you can bar someone from interacting with a post you make.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby javy knows my name » Thu Jan 09, 2020 5:52 am

Regular Show wrote:Again, it doesn't matter if it's "original content" or something else in my post. I want zero interaction between us here and I want you to completely ignore my posts.

Trust me, my PMs to Raisin contain plenty of original content and my opinions on draft prospects and mock drafts and breakdowns...

Well, I guess I'm just going to keep discussing it privately then. Sorry guys


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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby Regular Show » Thu Jan 09, 2020 5:54 am

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:
Regular Show wrote:Again, it doesn't matter if it's "original content" or something else in my post. I want zero interaction between us here and I want you to completely ignore my posts.

Trust me, my PMs to Raisin contain plenty of original content and my opinions on draft prospects and mock drafts and breakdowns...

Well, I guess I'm just going to keep discussing it privately then. Sorry guys


Again, you’re welcome to post or not post whatever you like. You are not welcome to dictate who can interact with the things you post. If that means you don’t end up posting about something, that’s okay. I’m also not sure that blackmailing your posts on the least trafficked forum is the leverage you think it is, but that’s really secondary to the absurdity of thinking you can bar someone from interacting with a post you make.


It's not blackmailing lol. It's getting agency back into my hands because your system here for blocking posters sucks. You need a better system for blocking posters from interacting with you here. I wish I could block my posts from being viewed by certain posters so this wouldn't even be a problem, but here we are...
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Thu Jan 09, 2020 5:58 am

Again, not how message boards work dude. If you think you’re entitled to customize the audience of who reads what you post, you’re looking for something that is not a public message board.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby Regular Show » Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:02 am

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:Again, not how message boards work dude. If you think you’re entitled to customize the audience of who reads what you post, you’re looking for something that is not a public message board.


I'll have to do some research, but I'm pretty sure there are public message boards that allow that option. I understand if Tim and the Mods don't want to add that option here, but I'm pretty sure it exists (and would be kinda nice). You guys aren't always the fastest at responding to trolls (like the horsefeathers poster above a few posts up with the stupid gif). This would give you a very effective option to deal with them.

Mods aren't doing a great job here, and the spoilered-gif crap Tom pulled in that other thread isn't cool.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby Tim » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:13 pm

Regular Show wrote:
Transmogrified Tiger wrote:Again, not how message boards work dude. If you think you’re entitled to customize the audience of who reads what you post, you’re looking for something that is not a public message board.


I'll have to do some research, but I'm pretty sure there are public message boards that allow that option. I understand if Tim and the Mods don't want to add that option here, but I'm pretty sure it exists (and would be kinda nice). You guys aren't always the fastest at responding to trolls (like the horsefeathers poster above a few posts up with the stupid gif). This would give you a very effective option to deal with them.

Mods aren't doing a great job here, and the spoilered-gif crap Tom pulled in that other thread isn't cool.

The board software is phpbb3 and I've never seen an extension to it that allows it to perform anything close to what you're talking about.

If you're suggesting that I take the time to investigate other frameworks entirely, change to one of those, integrate it to the rest of the site, port all the history, usernames, and such over to the other software...I'd suggest you think carefully how much time that will take. Then multiply that by about $150 per hour for programming contractors and then use the donate button to contribute that amount.

If you're not willing to put up the cost for that functionality here, I'd suggest adapting.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby ConstableRabbit » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:32 pm

Regular Show wrote:
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Regular Show wrote:I just want to clarify something. I'm barely posting here in this thread...

Some posters are curious why I'm not posting more in here, and they know the answer. I've been discussing the draft with Raisin for the past few months via PMs. It's quite lengthy and contains a large # of posts (I had to create a separate folder for everything).

I have one poster I especially despise here (they know who they are. Actually, everyone knows who you are lol). If that poster responds to what I wrote I really don't care to continue posting in here, and I'll just continue talking to Raisin privately.

This is another warning. Stop horsefeathering responding to my posts or I'll just go dark (to the detriment of the whole board). Just ignore what I wrote or post like I do for your posts in this thread. Again, it's not hard.

I have zero interest in discussing the draft or draft prospects with you here.


This isn’t how message boards work man. If you can’t stand someone, there’s a feature so you don’t see their posts available to you. You don’t get to limit who can reply to your posts, if that causes you to not post then that’s 100% up to you.


If you want me to participate in this thread then that is exactly how it will work. Otherwise, I will continue discussing it privately (which sucks for posters interested in what I think and have to say on the draft. It's not a small group).

Bye then? Although the poster references posts a lot and has some strong opinions, they are a large contributor to this forum, too. There was objectively nothing wrong with the reply above. This may be a good time for some introspection because your take is frankly bizarre.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby David » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:48 pm

Regular Show wrote:I just want to clarify something. I'm barely posting here in this thread...

Some posters are curious why I'm not posting more in here, and they know the answer. I've been discussing the draft with Raisin for the past few months via PMs. It's quite lengthy and contains a large # of posts (I had to create a separate folder for everything).

I have one poster I especially despise here (they know who they are. Actually, everyone knows who you are lol). If that poster responds to what I wrote I really don't care to continue posting in here, and I'll just continue talking to Raisin privately.

This is another warning. Stop horsefeathering responding to my posts or I'll just go dark (to the detriment of the whole board). Just ignore what I wrote or post like I do for your posts in this thread. Again, it's not hard.

I have zero interest in discussing the draft or draft prospects with you here.


dude what the horsefeathers is wrong with you
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby big ball chunky time » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:51 pm

this is the first good content of the offseason
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby David » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:52 pm

TomtheBombadil wrote:Feel however you want to feel, there is no way you get to post other people's freely available content and then claim domain over who gets to comment and what gets said


man you know someone is horsefeathering setting new boundaries of weird when gato suddenly looks like he's on the normal spectrum by a wide margin
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby Regular Show » Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:07 pm

For you, David:

Tom annoys me and I won't be posting in here going forward. (End of story)

Hurray!
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:18 pm

Since this guy's whole act is built on very publicly ignoring me without any kind of interaction, made clear many dozens of times already to I'm sure much less attention that he's wanted, it should be said that he's clearly reading my posts and responding to them. Maybe he doesn't read all of them and last night was just about trying to capitalize on opportunity. Still, no way does he know about 6/8 San Jacinto pitchers or the original content remark without reading my posts, at which point he chose to respond (long after the post was even made, which should further hint at his manufactured outrage and crocodile tears just being an act)
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby Regular Show » Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:21 pm

Yeah, you can talk to your new best friend David here. I'm done dealing with you lol
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby Tim » Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:23 pm

I feel like a middle school teacher here.

Enough.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:57 pm

Been waiting for someone to drop the Yelich or Bellinger comp on Veen, if for no reason because it's obligatory and an obvious sensational comp given his size/build/speed/power/position combo:

The BOARD has three 2020 prospects MLB draft prospects with 50 FVs, followed by seven with 45+ FVs. Do any of those seven seemed poised to move up or is it all team preference within that block. To that point, it's extremely early, but do you see any fits (rumored to be scouting, or stylistically) for the Jays at #5?

Kiley McDaniel - I'd say Zac Veen and Nick Gonzales probably have the best change to be a 50 FV by March/April. Veen has some Yelich starter kit qualities and will face good competition early and often in the Orlando area (he got on the radar when he took Matt Allan deep last year) and Gonzales isn't amazingly behind Torkelson/Martin as college bats, which is the main demographic that gets pushed up.


Really early obviously but - at least among HS players - pretty much locked into him, Howard, Abel, or this new guy Blitnik
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby Cubswin11 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:32 pm

Yeah I really like Veen, being a 6’4”+ lanky lefty it was only a matter of time for the Yelich/Bellinger comp.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:15 pm

Yeah, I think that frame sets Veen apart from the other HS OFers, namely Austin Hendrick, Pete Crow-Armstrong, and Robert Hassell.

Other steaming hot takes:

- Georgia HS OFer Isaiah Greene has a shot at adding to the top group of HS LHH CFs:

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- Think I've been sleeping on RHP Slade Cecconi out of Miami. As a freshman he was outstanding with a 20+ K-BB%, showed 4 pitches, pitched big in big games, made the Freshman All American team, and he's got a frame that could be more interesting and offer more velocity this spring. To a slightly lesser extent, I think I've been underrating Cole Wilcox though he's still got control and command issues that give him a little more reliever risk

- RHP Cade Cavalli out of Oklahoma hit 4 HRs and topped a 1.000 OPS in 84 PAs, was a semifinalist for the John Olerud award for two way players...Sat 96-98 at times last year even after coming back from some kind of right arm strain

- LHP Andrew Abbott out of Virginia seems like a legit LHRP prospect as those go. He showed big time potential as a freshman against Florida St during a multiple inning relief outing in some extra innings NCAA game followed by a strong CCBL

- LHP Jacob Palisch out of Stanford crushed the Cape this summer with a 38/5 K:BB in 35 IP among other good stuff, is in that Ryan Kellogg mold of 6'5" soft tosser who totally definitely will throw harder. Before the CCBL he had a mediocre sophomore season after a good freshman year

- RHP Gavin Williams out of ECU is a non-first college pitcher with a big curveball and was hitting 95, isn't so different from say Riley Thompson

- SS/IF Trei Cruz: Marwin Gonzalez? Casey Martin: JJ Hardy?

- OF Reese Albert out of FSU could be a breakout guy this spring worth. He did pretty well in the CCBL as a true freshman and has been a high Iso hitter in college. He's got a similar game to 2018 2nd rounder Jimmy Herron maybe, but a little bigger and younger also a LHH
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:12 am



This guy's going to end up one of my favorite HS bat prospects in some time
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby Cubswin11 » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:21 am

TomtheBombadil wrote:https://twitter.com/CarlosACollazo/status/1217536869912760322?s=20

This guy's going to end up one of my favorite HS bat prospects in some time

Man I hope he falls to us
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:14 am

Cubswin11 wrote:
TomtheBombadil wrote:https://twitter.com/CarlosACollazo/status/1217536869912760322?s=20

This guy's going to end up one of my favorite HS bat prospects in some time

Man I hope he falls to us


It’s wild - FG has Veen at 7 and BA at 26. BA knocked him down recently, saying it was because of swing-and-miss issues that popped up last summer.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:31 am

I had some interest in Norge Vera, not alot and probably mostly because of a random itch to land a Cuban talent preferably a SP prospect. Really the highest ceiling arm with Cuban roots right now might be in a US HS and draft eligible. BA had Victor Mederos in their latest top 30 or so, can't find the tweet but saw it, and yeah I think he can be a Grayson Rodriguez kind of riser. He and Mick Abel have two different body types but I think either is ideal for staying a high ceiling SP:

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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:38 pm

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Abel now over Kelly and in the top 5....Veen at 8 now....Howard at 13....Abel's posibly Rocker tier for me, one of the best HS SP prospects I can remember. Water gun to head and picking between he or Veen, legit I might take Abel. Just seems like the more rare one as a guy with all the tippy top of the rotation tools. Veen might be benefitting slightly from Yelich amd Bellinger being hot right now and those dims. Longenhagen comps the body more to guys like Jayson Werth and Cameron Maybin and I agree, not as loose/fluid as Yelich or Bellinger but there's still all of spring
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread

Postby Hrubes20 » Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:07 pm

Freddy Zamora blew his ACL and is out for the year before it even began. He was a borderline 1st rounder that could have seen his stock really rise with a good year.
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