2020 MLB Actual Draft Day(s) Thread

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Postby Regular Show » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:42 am

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:Damn, I wanted Abel.



Yeah, I was getting excited.
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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:43 am

TomtheBombadil wrote:Extremely acceptable pick, Howard is such a dude


I’m happy with it. He’ll stick at short, good floor for a prep kid.
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Postby Regular Show » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:44 am


Interesting. I like Ed Howard and the local media will be thrilled.
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Re: 2020 MLB Actual Draft Day(s) Thread

Postby Bertz » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:46 am

Very nonplussed by this. He wasn't my guy but isn't someone I will complain about a bit. I'm used to either being thrilled or pissed when the Cubs pick.
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Postby Derwood » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:47 am

MLB Network said he was committed to Oklahoma. What are the chances he signs?
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Postby Cubswin11 » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:49 am

Don’t love it, hopefully he can come in under slot a bit. Would’ve preferred Soderstrom, Mitchell or a pitcher.
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Re: 2020 MLB Actual Draft Day(s) Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:49 am

Ed Howard was ranked 20th by BA:

20 Ed Howard Mount Carmel (Ill.) HS SS

Ht: 6-2 | Wt: 185 | B-T: R-R
Commit/Drafted: Oklahoma
Age At Draft: 18.4

Howard is the top prep shortstop in a light high school class at the position and midwest area scouts should have good history with him considering he played alongside D-backs’ second-round pick Alek Thomas (2018) as an underclassman at Mount Carmel (Ill.) High. Howard wowed scouts as a junior in Perfect Game’s Jupiter WWBA tournament, showing high-level ability on both sides of the ball. While he has upside as a hitter, the polished part of Howard’s game comes from his glove. He’s a no-doubt shortstop at the next level as a solid athlete with reliable hands and a strong, accurate throwing arm. He moves fluidly in the middle of the diamond and has the ability to throw from all angles with excellent body control and a solid internal clock. In the 2020 class, he’s the clear-cut top prep defender at the position and has the potential to be a plus defensive shortstop in the big leagues . The one critique in his defensive game is that scouts would like to see better foot speed. He’s a solid runner, but not a burner by any means. Scouts will have to project more on Howard’s offensive game, particularly after not seeing him in games this season. He shows all the tools you want to see, with good bat speed, some bat-to-ball skill and a lithe, 6-foot-2, 185-pound frame that has plenty of room to add more muscle and impact ability. At present he’s more of a gap-to-gap, line-drive type hitter, but scouts want to see him refine his approach. He did a nice job of progressing throughout the summer in 2019 and showing he can make adjustments, but teams are still waiting for him to put it all together. While he is committed to Oklahoma, it’s rare for the top high school shortstop to not go in the first round, and a team that buys into his upside could jump on him in the middle or back half of the first round.
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Re: 2020 MLB Actual Draft Day(s) Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:51 am

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
TomtheBombadil wrote:Extremely acceptable pick, Howard is such a dude


I’m happy with it. He’ll stick at short, good floor for a prep kid.


There's Face of the Franchise potential here...Great intangibles and org fit, obviously has the tools to be a first division starting SS...There's some threat to Almora but nah, Howard has been a top player for his age for a long time
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Re: 2020 MLB Actual Draft Day(s) Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:51 am

Derwood wrote:MLB Network said he was committed to Oklahoma. What are the chances he signs?


The normal % of most prep kids picked in the 1st round, close to 0%.
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Re: 2020 MLB Actual Draft Day(s) Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:52 am

ESPN/Kiley had Howard at 34:

34. Ed Howard, SS, Mount Carmel HS (IL), Oklahoma commit, 45 FV: He had a strong summer with above-average tools and athleticism to get into first-round consideration, didn't get much of a chance to build on that this spring.
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Postby Regular Show » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:53 am



Lol
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Postby SpongeWorthy » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:53 am

the confidence to go by "ed howard" in the year of our lord 2020 is pretty cool
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Re: 2020 MLB Actual Draft Day(s) Thread

Postby Bertz » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:53 am

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:ESPN/Kiley had Howard at 21:

21. Ed Howard, SS, Mount Carmel HS (IL), Oklahoma commit, 45 FV: He had a strong summer with above-average tools and athleticism to get into first-round consideration, didn't get much of a chance to build on that this spring.


Here's Keith Law

15. Ed Howard, SS, Mount Carmel (Ill.) HS, Age: 18

Howard is one of the few true shortstops in the draft class at either the high school or college level, and that alone makes him at least a top two rounds guy, while the upside in his bat is probably going to make him a first-rounder. Howard is very projectable at 6-foot-2, 185 pounds, and is an above-average runner with very good hands, giving scouts no doubt he’ll stay at short in the long term. His bat speed is excellent and he rotates well for future power as he fills out. Howard did struggle at the end of the summer of 2019, and we don’t know if that was due to a sore shoulder or fatigue or just trouble with better competition — and he didn’t get to play this spring to answer any of that. In a draft with more polished shortstops, he might slip to the supplemental round and end up an overslot guy, but this year he seems likely to go somewhere in the back half of the first.
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Postby NonProfitCow » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:53 am

ummm, ok Boston
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Re: 2020 MLB Actual Draft Day(s) Thread

Postby Regular Show » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:54 am

WHOA... WHAT?!?

I like this kid (Nick Yorke) and I was going to mention him to Raisin as a possible guy to take in the later rounds in a normal draft, but he hurt his shoulder or his arm and scouts didn't get to see him at SS. The swing is awesome though.

I don't think he sticks at SS.
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Postby Named After Maddux » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:54 am

I really like the pick. There are some people very high on Ed Howard. It’s not a typical year where the top prep SS is an uber prospect, but this is very intriguing. Honestly I’m thrilled it’s not a Cade Cavalli or Chris McMahon.

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Re: 2020 MLB Actual Draft Day(s) Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:56 am

Fangraphs/Eric Longenhagen has him at 11 with a 45+ FV:

TLDR: Howard is one of the best shortstop defenders in this class, he hit against elite peers on the showcase circuit, and his frame suggests he'll grow into relevant power.

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Perhaps he would have come out of the 2020 blocks having already filled out and showing more raw power, but Howard answered most relevant questions the previous summer when he performed against the best high school pitching all summer on the showcase circuit. That pitching is much better than what Howard would have seen in Illinois this spring. Howard best squares up pitches at the bottom of the strike zone, and although he hasn't been tested regularly at the letters, he's shown flashes of being able to either lay off those pitches, or pull his hands in and find a way to get the barrel there, and even to catch that high pitch way out in front of the plate and hit it in the air to his pull side. Whether Howard is able to fo that against big league velocity is tough to predict, but he has promising feel to hit and an advance approach for a cold weather hitter, as well as perhaps the best defensive footwork in the entire class. He projects as an everday big league shortstop.
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Re: 2020 MLB Actual Draft Day(s) Thread

Postby Cubswin11 » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:56 am

TomtheBombadil wrote:
CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
TomtheBombadil wrote:Extremely acceptable pick, Howard is such a dude


I’m happy with it. He’ll stick at short, good floor for a prep kid.


There's Face of the Franchise potential here...Great intangibles and org fit, obviously has the tools to be a first division starting SS...There's some threat to Almora but nah, Howard has been a top player for his age for a long time

Yeah, was gonna say. Reading that BA blurb I got some Almora vibes
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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:58 am

MLB Pipeline (Callis/Mayo) had him at 15:

The starting shortstop on the Jackie Robinson West (Chicago) team that went to the finals of the 2014 Little League World Series, Howard has blossomed into the best prospect at his position in the 2020 high school class. He may not have the lofty ceiling of Bobby Witt Jr. or C.J. Abrams, prep shortstops who went in the first six picks of the 2019 Draft, but he's a steady player who could have solid tools across the board. He's set to become the first Illinois high school position player to go in the first round since Jayson Werth in 1997. Using a simple right-handed swing and a calm approach, Howard makes repeated hard contact. He has impressive bat speed and a projectable 6-foot-2 frame that continues to add strength, so he could develop average or better power. He has solid speed and uses it well on the bases. A smooth defender at shortstop, Howard definitely will be able to remain at the position. He can make all the plays with athletic actions, quick hands and a strong arm capable of making throws from a variety of angles. The Oklahoma recruit has a high baseball IQ and a knack for slowing the game down on both sides of the ball.
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Postby CubinNY » Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:00 am

I know nothing but I like the pick!
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Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:01 am

Too Many Shortstops, the Sequel!

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Postby Post Count Padder » Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:08 am

Seems like a good kid with loads of potential. Where does he rank in the system?
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