2016 Cubs Picks Thread

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Re: Cubs Picks Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:24 pm

Thomas Hatch (round 3) is a six foot tall right-hander, who missed all of last year with an elbow issue that did not require surgery. He is similar to Oakland A's comp round A pick Daulton Jefferies, in that both are smaller right-handers without big velocity, who profile as back-end starters due to excellent command and control and three average pitches. The Cubs have shown zero aversion to smaller pitchers for the past few years, so Hatch made a lot of sense. The physical opposite of Hatch would be Duncan Robinson (round 9), the right-hander from Dartmouth, although he is a very similar pitcher to Hatch in terms of his profile. Robinson is a command control pitcher, despite being 6'5''. He had a walk rate per nine under one this year as a senior, walking just seven batters all year.

The Cubs did take a few big names in the top-10, although they were all relievers or players I project as relievers: Bailey Clark (round 5), Chad Hockin (round 6), and Dakota Mekkes (round 10). Clark excelled in his first few starts for Duke this year before hitting a wall. He has the size to start at 6’4”. I think he projects as a reliever long term, based on his performance this year. There is a chance he could rebound back to the pitcher who many thought would be a possible first-round starter earlier in the year.
Hockin has never been a starter, not in high school or college. He did start two games his first two years in school, but even though he had his best statistical season this year, he did not get a chance to start. This was very unfortunate for him and his draft value. His brother was a second round pick for the Cleveland Indians and his grandfather is Harmon Killebrew. The bloodlines and the production are there to make him an interesting selection.

Mekkes closed a few games for Michigan State this year. He had the highest strikeout rates in the country, at 15.16 per nine, but also had a walk rate of nearly seven. He is a big guy but doesn’t throw hard. As a 10th-rounder, Mekkes is a good gamble as a pitcher whose strikeout rate was off the charts this year.

My favorite pick after the 10th was Trey Cobb (round 12), another undersized right-handed pitcher from Oklahoma State. The Cubs' area scout was able to land the top two pitchers this year from the Cowboys. Cobb posted a strikeout per nine over 11, with a walk per nine under four. There is a chance he will have to go to the bullpen. Cobb's numbers actually intrigue me more than Hatch’s, although Hatch has much stronger command and control and a workable third pitch. The Cubs won’t worry about Cobb's size, and I expect they will give Cobb a chance to start in the minors.


http://www.scout.com/mlb/scouting/story ... tral?s=321
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Re: Cubs Picks Thread

Postby stitchface » Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:19 pm

Cubs going to get around to signing people soon?
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Re: Cubs Picks Thread

Postby craig » Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:13 pm

6th rounder Chad Hockin signed.

One of my favorite picks. Has a chance to be an interesting fastball/slider reliever.

I'll be curious to see whether he's a slot guy, or may have been one of the overslots, along with Mekkes and Rucker?
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Re: Cubs Picks Thread

Postby TomtheBombadil » Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:25 pm

craig wrote:6th rounder Chad Hockin signed.

One of my favorite picks. Has a chance to be an interesting fastball/slider reliever.

I'll be curious to see whether he's a slot guy, or may have been one of the overslots, along with Mekkes and Rucker?


Yeah, as a pure relief prosepcts Hockin's got shades of former Twins reliever Jesse Crain. Fast arm, good fastball/slider, aggressive, smart enough to mix a changeup once in a while to show he's not generic/basic and even thoughtful...He could move fast if things go well.
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Re: Cubs Picks Thread

Postby craig » Sat Jun 25, 2016 6:21 pm

I assume Hatch will be pitching again today?
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Re: Cubs Picks Thread

Postby stitchface » Sat Jun 25, 2016 7:20 pm

Seems that that game just started.
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Re: Cubs Picks Thread

Postby CubInOK » Sat Jun 25, 2016 7:20 pm

craig wrote:I assume Hatch will be pitching again today?

It's Hatch today.
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Re: Cubs Picks Thread

Postby stitchface » Sat Jun 25, 2016 7:52 pm

CubInOK wrote:
craig wrote:I assume Hatch will be pitching again today?

It's Hatch today.


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Re: Cubs Picks Thread

Postby craig » Sat Jun 25, 2016 9:50 pm

Hatch gives up 4 runs in the first 2 innings and is taken out. So, his shutout streak is over. Trey Cobb, the Cubs 12th rounder, relievers him. Has allowed just 1 unearned run in his 5 innings thus far.
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Re: Cubs Picks Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:26 pm

Well, Hatch can now sign.
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Re: Cubs Picks Thread

Postby davell » Sun Jun 26, 2016 2:25 am

Hockin gets full slot(241K), per Mayo.
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Re: Cubs Picks Thread

Postby davell » Sun Jun 26, 2016 2:56 am

Ridings gets 120k, saving 53,800 from slot value.

Robinson gets 30k, saving 132300 from slot. Both, according to Mayo

297,100 saved altogether between Cruz, Ridings, and Robinson. With Mekkes and Rucker both expected to receive over slot. No idea if we can save anything on any of Hatch, Miller, or Clark. My guess is its a slim possibility on Miller. But I can see Hatch requiring over slot himself. Perhaps Clark as well.

At any rate, my guess is we don't have 100k extra to throw at any of the later round guys.
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Re: Cubs Picks Thread

Postby Vinestal » Sun Jun 26, 2016 2:13 pm

What are the chances they just shut Hatch down for the remaining season once he's signed just to rest him?
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Re: Cubs Picks Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Sun Jun 26, 2016 4:56 pm

Vinestal wrote:What are the chances they just shut Hatch down for the remaining season once he's signed just to rest him?


Pretty slim, unless he's hurt. They'll probably pitch him sparingly (1-2 inning outings once a week) in Mesa and/or Eugene, which is what they've done with most of their highly drafted college pitchers since the new signing deadline.
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Re: Cubs Picks Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:40 am

Guys signed so far per BA:

6: Chad Hockin (slot: $241,000; signed for $241,000)
7: Michael Cruz (slot: $186,000; signed for $75,000; $111,000 savings)
8: Stephen Ridings (slot $173,800; signed for $120,000; $53,800 savings)
9: Duncan Robinson (slot: $162,300, signed for $30,000; $132,300 savings)
13: Wyatt Short
16: Holden Cammack
17: Zack Short
19: Matt Swarmer
25: Trent Giambrone
27: Connor Myers
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Re: Cubs Picks Thread

Postby davell » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:42 am

Tyson Miller signed for 500K, 70,300 over slot value.
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Re: Cubs Picks Thread

Postby CubsWin » Sat Jul 02, 2016 9:09 am

No word from Yags on what Mekkes signed for but apparently he's in the fold. BA now has Cubs having signed:


RND PICK PLAYER POS
4 134 Tyson Miller RHP
6 194 Chad Hockin RHP
7 224 Michael Cruz C
8 254 Stephen Ridings RHP
9 284 Duncan Robinson RHP
10 314 Dakota Mekkes RHP
13 404 Wyatt Short LHP
15 464 Jed Carter RHP
16 494 Holden Cammack RHP
17 524 Zack Short SS
18 554 Marc Huberman LHP
19 584 Matt Swarmer RHP
20 614 Colton Freeman LHP
21 644 Sam Tidaback C
25 764 Trent Giambrone 2B
27 824 Connor Myers OF
29 884 Tyler Peyton RHP
32 974 Zach Davis OF

That leaves just 5 guys unsigned from their top 20 round selections.

Junior RHP Thomas Hatch (3rd)
Junior RHP Bailey Clark (5th)
Senior RHP Michael Rucker (11th)
Junior RHP Trey Cobb (12th)
Junior RHP Parker Dunshee (15th)

Yags has the Cubs with $226,800 in bonus overages but some of that will likely be taken up in the Mekkes signing.
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Re: Cubs Picks Thread

Postby davell » Sat Jul 02, 2016 8:02 pm

Clark gets 450k. Slot was 321,800.
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Re: Cubs Picks Thread

Postby CubsWin » Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:50 am

One of three things must be true...

1. The reported amounts Yags has reported thus far are off a bit.
2. Hatch has agreed to sign for about $20,000 under slot.
3. Hatch is going back to Oklahoma State and the Cubs would have to cut someone else loose, likely 9th round pick Duncan Robinson

If the signing bonuses for Mekkes and Clark are correct and Yags is also accurate, the Cubs are now $19,800 over their allotment with Hatch still unsigned.
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Re: Cubs Picks Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:51 am

CubsWin wrote:One of three things must be true...

1. The reported amounts Yags has reported thus far are off a bit.
2. Hatch has agreed to sign for about $20,000 under slot.
3. Hatch is going back to Oklahoma State and the Cubs would have to cut someone else loose, likely 9th round pick Duncan Robinson

If the signing bonuses for Mekkes and Clark are correct and Yags is also accurate, the Cubs are now $19,800 over their allotment with Hatch still unsigned.


You're actually allowed to go 5% over slot on your pool without penalty.
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Re: Cubs Picks Thread

Postby CubsWin » Sun Jul 03, 2016 1:31 am

CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
CubsWin wrote:One of three things must be true...

1. The reported amounts Yags has reported thus far are off a bit.
2. Hatch has agreed to sign for about $20,000 under slot.
3. Hatch is going back to Oklahoma State and the Cubs would have to cut someone else loose, likely 9th round pick Duncan Robinson

If the signing bonuses for Mekkes and Clark are correct and Yags is also accurate, the Cubs are now $19,800 over their allotment with Hatch still unsigned.


You're actually allowed to go 5% over slot on your pool without penalty.

Yags' number includes that 5%.
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Re: Cubs Picks Thread

Postby cwood218 » Sun Jul 03, 2016 2:43 am

CubsWin wrote:
CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
CubsWin wrote:One of three things must be true...

1. The reported amounts Yags has reported thus far are off a bit.
2. Hatch has agreed to sign for about $20,000 under slot.
3. Hatch is going back to Oklahoma State and the Cubs would have to cut someone else loose, likely 9th round pick Duncan Robinson

If the signing bonuses for Mekkes and Clark are correct and Yags is also accurate, the Cubs are now $19,800 over their allotment with Hatch still unsigned.


You're actually allowed to go 5% over slot on your pool without penalty.

Yags' number includes that 5%.


If Hatch is going back to college all they have to do is offer some % (I think it is 60%) and then they still get that slot money to spend right?
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Re: Cubs Picks Thread

Postby davell » Sun Jul 03, 2016 4:08 am

cwood218 wrote:
CubsWin wrote:
CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
You're actually allowed to go 5% over slot on your pool without penalty.

Yags' number includes that 5%.


If Hatch is going back to college all they have to do is offer some % (I think it is 60%) and then they still get that slot money to spend right?


No.
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Re: Cubs Picks Thread

Postby CubsWin » Sun Jul 03, 2016 4:08 am

cwood218 wrote:
CubsWin wrote:
CaliforniaRaisin wrote:
You're actually allowed to go 5% over slot on your pool without penalty.

Yags' number includes that 5%.


If Hatch is going back to college all they have to do is offer some % (I think it is 60%) and then they still get that slot money to spend right?

Never mind. I misunderstood. Yags' number doesn't include the 5%. My bad.
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