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Now that the trade deadline is over, it is time to start looking towards the 2014 draft. Going into August, the Cubs had the 9th worst record in baseball. Currently, there are 15 teams under .500, and all 15 have a shot at a protected top 10 draft slot. However, the Nationals don't scare me too much, so I'm going to narrow the field to 14. For much of the season, Houston and Miami have had the #1 and #2 spots sewn up, but the White Sox have come charging into the picture losing 6 in a row to finish July strong.

 

After the top 3, it's pretty much anybody's ballgame. It is going to be an interesting and volatile race for a top 5 draft pick in 2014. Case in point, the Cubs entered August in 9th place, but after just two days are currently sitting 6th. Unfortunately, that's a pretty meaningless ranking as 8 teams have 58 or 59 losses and one team is tied with the Cubs at 60.

 

August 2nd was a particularly good day for the Cubs. It started by them losing 6-2 to the Dodgers for their 60th loss. There were 12 games on the Fecal League schedule last night. In the list below, the Cubs benefit if the first team listed wins. Out of 12 games, we went 8-4, including the Cubs loss, 9-4. Considering that most of these games are under .500 teams against over .500 teams, to go 9-4 is a very good day.

 

PHI vs. ATL - Phillies lost. 50-59

COL vs. PIT - Rockies won. 52-59

SEA vs. BAL - Mariners lost. 50-59

CWS vs. DET - White Sox lost. 40-67

MIA vs. CLE - Marlins won. 43-65

NYM vs. KC - Mets won. 49-58

SFG vs. TB - Giants won. 49-58

MIN vs. HOU - Twins won. 46-60

MIL vs. WSH - Brewers lost. 46-63

SDP vs. NYY - Padres won. 51-59

 

The last game was between the Blue Jays and the Angels. They each had 58 losses going into the game, but the Jays and one more win than the Angels, so I guess if there was an outcome that benefited the Cubs more it would be if the Angels won.

 

LAA vs. TOR - Angels won. 50-58. The Blue Jays are 50-59.

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Fecal League Standings - 08/02/13

 

1. HOU...36-72 .333 --

2. CWS...40-67 .374 4.5

3. MIA....43-65 .398 7.0

4. MIL....46-63 .422 9.5

5. MIN...46-60 .434 11.0

6. CHC...49-60 .450 12.5

7. SFG...49-59 .454 13.0

8. NYM...49-58 .458 13.5

9. SEA...50-59 .459 13.5

10. PHI...50-59 .459 13.5

11. TOR..50-59 .459 13.5

12. LAA...50-58 .463 14.0

13. SDP...51-59 .464 14.0

14. COL...52-59 .468 14.5

 

8 teams are within 2 games of the Cubs. Their ranking will vary greatly throughout the next several weeks. This should be an interesting ride.

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Thanks for keeping track. hoping for a lot of loses the rest of the way. next years draft is gonna be a stacked at the top.
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Thanks for keeping track. hoping for a lot of loses the rest of the way. next years draft is gonna be a stacked at the top.

The Cubs are 5.5 games back of Miami in 3rd. If the Marlins keep winning (3 in a row, 6 in their last 10), the Cubs have a shot at that pick, but #1 and #2 seem out of reach. They could finish anywhere from 3rd to 14th. That's a big variance.

 

There are 53 games left for the Cubs, Marlins and Brewers. It's a little early for magic numbers but what the heck. The number of Cubs losses and Marlins wins needed for the Cubs to pick 3rd is 59. For the 4th pick, it's 56. (The Cubs have the tie-breaker on every team except Houston.) Magic numbers work a little differently if you're not in 1st place, of course...

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[expletive] hate this [expletive]
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Gotta admit, I've been a big supporter of this the last 2 years, but we're not nearly bad enough to where we can get Rodon or Hoffman, so it doesn't matter to me this year. I'm hoping for 72-75 wins and a top 10 pick, so if we splurge in FA, we'll still get a damn good player in the draft. Obviously its early, but I think this draft is shaping up much like the one in 2011. So, as long as we're protected, we'll get a bigtime guy.
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Yea any hope for the Cubs being even in the top 3 has been gone for a while now, imo. I just want them to stay in the top 10 for pick protection.
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Yeah, I'm interested in what spot they end up for a variety of reasons, but the daily tracking and the outright celebration of losses from a team that's not all that bad is off-putting. To each their own and all that, but this is stupid.
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Yeah, I'm interested in tracking it, but we're at the point where an implosion of the big league team is probably worse for the long-term success.
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Yeah, I'm interested in tracking it, but we're at the point where an implosion of the big league team is probably worse for the long-term success.

 

Why? This team is full of players (minus a few pieces) that won't be around when the team is successful enough to win and be in the playoffs consistently. The success or lack thereof, of this team has little impact on the long term. I'd rather be terrible than mediocre, that's always been my stance. I don't think you have to be mediocre before you can be good. This is a conversation that seems to happen every year. Do you guys really believe this team was built to win? Sorry, I never saw that. This season is just a piece of the puzzle of building a winner. Aside from Castro, Rizzo and Shark there's really not much on this team to root for or hope in so what's wrong with rooting for a higher pick in the draft?

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You don't have to be mediocre before you are good, that is correct. Everything else is not right.
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You don't have to be mediocre before you are good, that is correct. Everything else is not right.

I guess I feel like losing the rest of the way does more for our long term success than winning. That's probably the most simple way to put it.

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Gotta admit, I've been a big supporter of this the last 2 years, but we're not nearly bad enough to where we can get Rodon or Hoffman, so it doesn't matter to me this year. I'm hoping for 72-75 wins and a top 10 pick, so if we splurge in FA, we'll still get a damn good player in the draft. Obviously its early, but I think this draft is shaping up much like the one in 2011. So, as long as we're protected, we'll get a bigtime guy.

 

This draft isn't as good as 2011.

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You don't have to be mediocre before you are good, that is correct. Everything else is not right.

I guess I feel like losing the rest of the way does more for our long term success than winning. That's probably the most simple way to put it.

 

That is also not right. The difference in a couple spots in the draft order pales compared to the importance of the success of the players who are currently on the MLB roster.

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We have 19 games left with the top 14, 6 games against the Phillies, 3 against the Padres, 3 against the Marlins and 7 against the Brewers.
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Yeah, I'm interested in tracking it, but we're at the point where an implosion of the big league team is probably worse for the long-term success.

No one said it would take an implosion of the big league team to get as good of a draft pick as possible. They're not mutually exclusive.

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You don't have to be mediocre before you are good, that is correct. Everything else is not right.

I guess I feel like losing the rest of the way does more for our long term success than winning. That's probably the most simple way to put it.

 

That is also not right. The difference in a couple spots in the draft order pales compared to the importance of the success of the players who are currently on the MLB roster.

You're wrong too.

 

The difference isn't between a couple of spots in the draft order. There are so many teams so close together that the difference is between 10 spots in the draft order. And the Cubs can lose enough games (and the other teams win enough games) without compromising the individual success of any one player on the roster. I thought that was obvious...

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You don't have to be mediocre before you are good, that is correct. Everything else is not right.

I guess I feel like losing the rest of the way does more for our long term success than winning. That's probably the most simple way to put it.

 

That is also not right. The difference in a couple spots in the draft order pales compared to the importance of the success of the players who are currently on the MLB roster.

You're wrong too.

 

The difference isn't between a couple of spots in the draft order. There are so many teams so close together that the difference is between 10 spots in the draft order. And the Cubs can lose enough games (and the other teams win enough games) without compromising the individual success of any one player on the roster. I thought that was obvious...

 

Replace "couple" with 5, 10, 20 spots in the draft order, the point is the same. There are lots of current Cubs who are important to next year's roster(and the years beyond), the difference in their draft position pales in importance to how they collectively perform.

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So the perfect scenario would be for all the current key players on the Cubs to have season-ending injuries that would have no bearing on their long-term health, then the team can completely tank and can get in position to draft Rodon or Hoffman. Sounds fool-proof. =D>
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I hope we draft 14th at best.

 

Any particular reason you picked that number?

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