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Re: 2017 Draft Thread

Postby davell » Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:26 pm



BA's Monday morning mock. And WOW, at how many teams are cutting deals. Has us with Schmidt at 27 and Allen at 30. Implying a slight discount on Schmidt and over slotting Allen a bit.

I'd take Schmidt and Allen and be ecstatic.
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Postby Tim » Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:32 pm

Yes, please.
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Mon Jun 12, 2017 2:11 pm

davell wrote:https://twitter.com/BaseballAmerica/status/874250384851832832

BA's Monday morning mock. And WOW, at how many teams are cutting deals. Has us with Schmidt at 27 and Allen at 30. Implying a slight discount on Schmidt and over slotting Allen a bit.

I'd take Schmidt and Allen and be ecstatic.


I like that and I like the idea of getting Schmidt at a slight discount when you think he's a likely top 15 pick.
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Mon Jun 12, 2017 2:17 pm

davell wrote:https://twitter.com/jimcallisMLB/status/874220100752216065

Both mocks have some odd things going on, which is actually more apt to happen, than the typical chalk mocks we've seen mostly....

Mayo has us with Allen/Carlson, Callis has us with Houck/Rasmussen.


I don't think Mayo's mock makes sense financially. Allen will probably require a slight overslot and Carlson a sizable one.

Callis' mock should allow for savings for the second round but I'd rather take my overslot in the first to ensure the Cubs actually select the guy.

Neither Mayo nor Callis have Schmidt in the first.
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread

Postby CaliforniaRaisin » Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:09 pm

Griffin Canning:
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread

Postby Hrubes20 » Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:20 pm

Per the twitters, Daulton Varsho reportedly had a terrific workout for the Cubs. I remember somebody had us taking him as a big underslot in the 1st. Law? I'd be slightly disappointed with that pick, given how terrible the reports are on his arm behind the plate.

And sign me up for the Schmidt/Allen mocks.
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Postby Tim » Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:49 pm

Hrubes20 wrote:Per the twitters, Daulton Varsho reportedly had a terrific workout for the Cubs. I remember somebody had us taking him as a big underslot in the 1st. Law? I'd be slightly disappointed with that pick, given how terrible the reports are on his arm behind the plate.

And sign me up for the Schmidt/Allen mocks.

I feel Varsho would be like Delta House accepting Flounder because he was legacy.
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Postby Tryptamine » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:40 pm

Tim wrote:
Hrubes20 wrote:Per the twitters, Daulton Varsho reportedly had a terrific workout for the Cubs. I remember somebody had us taking him as a big underslot in the 1st. Law? I'd be slightly disappointed with that pick, given how terrible the reports are on his arm behind the plate.

And sign me up for the Schmidt/Allen mocks.

I feel Varsho would be like Delta House accepting Flounder because he was legacy.


Yeah, I mean even his upside doesn't sound great. Jason Kendall without the ability to hit for average. The rest of the draft would have to be pretty amazing to make up for that pick.
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:46 pm

This is interesting, from 538:

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College pitchers have not been such a good value in the Top 100 picks recently. College hitters remain awesome though, all hail college hitters.
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread

Postby Cubswin11 » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:59 pm

Can't wait for Harold Reynolds to proclaim Greene and McKay are both going to be all-star level hitters and pitchers tonight amongst a million other nonsensical statements.
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread

Postby UK » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:01 pm

Fwiw, I only gave Varsho a marginal (47), 4th round.
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread

Postby davell » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:42 pm

UK wrote:Fwiw, I only gave Varsho a marginal (47), 4th round.


I just hope that if we do take him, its for around half of slot.
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread

Postby CyHawk_Cub » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:44 pm

Kinda figured the Varsho in the 1st rd scenario was kinda mehhh when I saw a couple meatballs at bleacher nation advocating it.
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread

Postby Hrubes20 » Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:23 pm

UK wrote:Fwiw, I only gave Varsho a marginal (47), 4th round.


I talked to a guy this morning about Varsho who have seen him personally, and he told me that he's much closer to 30th in this class than he is to 60. Apparently the bat is a lot better than what little I could find to read about online. One guy I trust told me that he would consider placing a 70 on his raw power (still about 55 in-game). That's significantly better than what the interwebz would have me believe. Thinks he's a 55 hit guy as well. Said the arm was "pitiful" but that he received the ball "adequately". Above average runner that could play LF if need be, which he thinks is likely. Honestly, that package sounds a bit similar to what Schwarber was coming out.

It's only one guy, but he's watched a lot of baseball in that region. I trust his report.
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:43 pm

The Workloads of 2017's Top Draft Prospects

Canning comes out of this looking most worrisome, with honorable mention to Lange and Houck.
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread

Postby Hrubes20 » Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:52 pm

Transmogrified Tiger wrote:The Workloads of 2017's Top Draft Prospects

Canning comes out of this looking most worrisome, with honorable mention to Lange and Houck.


Probably not a surprise that his pre-draft MRI results are bad.
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread

Postby davell » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:03 pm

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Re: 2017 Draft Thread

Postby davell » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:29 pm

Longenhagen has us with Melendez at 27.

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