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abuck1220 Iowa Cubs

abuck1220

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I don't like abuck's plan as it allows people to draft a guy in the ML draft when he could spend most of the year in the minors and there's no risk to the team that drafts him.

 

it's just one guy...cespedes. he got a $30 mil contract and he's 27. he's basically a FA...much different than soler.

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If Soler hasn't signed with a team by our Prospect Draft, I'd say he should just be eligible for the 2013 Prospect Draft and not be allowed to be a waiver pickup like a player eligible for the draft who went undrafted.

 

agreed.

 

anyone have a problem with just stating darvish and cespedes are eligible for the major league draft? and they can be put in your minors if they, for some reason, don't break camp with the team?

 

What's wrong with a simple rule? I thought you didn't like rules with exceptions?

 

i don't like rules with 50 million exceptions. this would be 2 exceptions.

 

i don't really care about cespedes. if everyone wants to make him eligible in the minor league draft, fine with me. darvish is a no brainer for the mlb draft.

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They should all be in the ML draft so someone can decide if they're worth the risk that they start the year in the minors.

 

It's one exception this year but likely more in future years.

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I vote all international FAs are eligible for the major league draft, but there are complications:

 

1) What happens if an international FA doesn't sign with a team until after the draft starts (the Soler rule)? Does he become a free-for-all on waivers when his record gets created?

 

2) What happens if an international FA doesn't get drafted in the major league draft, but is eligible for the minors (Concepcion)? Waivers or minor league draft?

 

3) If an international FA is drafted in the major league draft and doesn't make his big league club, is he eligible for the minor league roster (Cespedes)?

 

These aren't major issues. Any IFA that isn't drafted in the ML draft is eligible in the prospect draft. Everyone expects Soler to be signed soon, so he should be available like the rest.

 

#3 is a big reason for my proposal. You have to stash him on your bench as long as he's in the minors. It prevents people from taking guys like Soler in the ML draft. But it allows each team to decide what level of risk they're comfortable with for guys like Cespedes who will probably start in the minors.

 

I don't like abuck's plan as it allows people to draft a guy in the ML draft when he could spend most of the year in the minors and there's no risk to the team that drafts him.

 

I agree. Basically if you have a last-round pick, there's very little incentive NOT to grab someone like Soler and then stash him in the minors for a couple of years. Chances are the guy you would have picked would just be a bench bat or some fringy pitcher, and those guys are a dime a dozen on the waiver wire. Top 50 prospects are much harder to come by.

 

I like your plan. If a guy is in his first season of roadkill eligibility and came over as an IFA, he can be drafted in the major league portion of the draft, but has to stay in the majors. I think this kind of forces people to follow the spirit of the two drafts - major league draft is for players who will contribute points to your team this year; minor league draft is to allocate new talent coming into US pro baseball who won't be major league contributors this year.

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From Japan:

Norichika Aoki, LF - 30, Milwaukee

Wei-Yin Chen, SP - 26, Baltimore

Yu Darvish, SP - 25, Texas

Hisashi Iwakuma, SP - 30, Seattle

Tsuyoshi Wada, SP - 31, Baltimore

 

Cuba is a little trickier, since they're not recorded together at all, but...

Yoenis Cespedes, OF - 26, Oakland

Gerardo Concepcion, SP - 19, Chicago Cubs

Jorge Soler, OF - 19, Chicago Cubs

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Jorge Soler, OF - 19, Chicago Cubs

 

did you stop following this after reading the dave van dyck story?

Call it wishful thinking.

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So do we need some kind of poll or commissioner ruling to determine what will be done with players like Darvish, Cespedes, Soler (if he signs), etc? All the keeper rosters are now legal so once we get this sorted we should be able to start the draft.
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So do we need some kind of poll or commissioner ruling to determine what will be done with players like Darvish, Cespedes, Soler (if he signs), etc? All the keeper rosters are now legal so once we get this sorted we should be able to start the draft.

 

 

I agree. We need the word from on high. Is Tim around? Or, who is acting as commish in Tim's place?

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From Japan:

Norichika Aoki, LF - 30, Milwaukee

Wei-Yin Chen, SP - 26, Baltimore

Yu Darvish, SP - 25, Texas

Hisashi Iwakuma, SP - 30, Seattle

Tsuyoshi Wada, SP - 31, Baltimore

 

Cuba is a little trickier, since they're not recorded together at all, but...

Yoenis Cespedes, OF - 26, Oakland

Gerardo Concepcion, SP - 19, Chicago Cubs

Jorge Soler, OF - 19, Chicago Cubs

I should have caught up on this thread first.

 

Looking at this list, I think it's pretty much common sense. Soler and Concepcion are only minor league draft eligible. Everyone else can be picked in the major league phase but must be kept on the major league roster and kept over the offseason as major leaguers if they are selected there. Future seasons they could then be moved to the minors.

 

Easy enough? Let's get drafting. :D

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