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Postby champaignchris » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:39 pm

TBS Playoffs Insider wrote:one thing we dont talk about enough is how the mariners won the griffey trade


Got 4 all star caliber seasons from Mike Cameron and 2 more almost all star caliber seasons from Randy Winn (by way of Antonio Perez) in exchange for one great season of Griffey and a barely above replacement level rest of his career.

But hey, the Reds were eventually able to trade Griffey to the White Sox for Nick Masset.
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Postby SouthSideRyan » Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:40 am

The Randy Winn trade was really Piniella for Randy Winn.
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Postby Rob » Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:00 pm

SouthSideRyan wrote:The Randy Winn trade was really Piniella for Randy Winn.


Which was insane. Winn had finally figured it out and was damn good in his last season with the Devil Rays. It'd be roughly equivalent to trading Javy Baez after this season to acquire Matt Williams or something.

Also, Piniella sucked.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby d_money » Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:11 pm

I’m going to the VB’s game today. Gonna bring some bad juju for them. You can thank me in advance.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby sneakypower » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:01 pm

can anyone guess the current NL leader in SLG

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and it's not even close
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby jersey cubs fan » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:05 pm

sneakypower wrote:can anyone guess the current NL leader in SLG

hint
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and it's not even close

the ghost of kris bryant?
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

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jersey cubs fan wrote:
sneakypower wrote:can anyone guess the current NL leader in SLG

hint
Spoiler: show
and it's not even close

the ghost of kris bryant?


i love kris bryant but think how cool a bizarro kris bryant would be. black atheist who loves to get drunk and occasionally gets extra base hits
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Cubswin11 » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:09 pm

sneakypower wrote:can anyone guess the current NL leader in SLG

hint
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and it's not even close

It has to be either Babe Aguilar or Babe Muncy, right?
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby jersey cubs fan » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:12 pm

treebird wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:
sneakypower wrote:can anyone guess the current NL leader in SLG

hint
Spoiler: show
and it's not even close

the ghost of kris bryant?


i love kris bryant but think how cool a bizarro kris bryant would be. black atheist who loves to get drunk and occasionally gets extra base hits

an atheist isn't the opposite of mormon, a bachelor is the opposite of mormon. Because a mormon marries lots of ladies and a bachelor marries none.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Rob » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:30 pm

jersey cubs fan wrote:
treebird wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:the ghost of kris bryant?


i love kris bryant but think how cool a bizarro kris bryant would be. black atheist who loves to get drunk and occasionally gets extra base hits

an atheist isn't the opposite of mormon, a bachelor is the opposite of mormon. Because a mormon marries lots of ladies and a bachelor marries none.


You're both wrong. A nomrom is the opposite of a mormon.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:38 pm

Rob wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:
treebird wrote:
i love kris bryant but think how cool a bizarro kris bryant would be. black atheist who loves to get drunk and occasionally gets extra base hits

an atheist isn't the opposite of mormon, a bachelor is the opposite of mormon. Because a mormon marries lots of ladies and a bachelor marries none.


You're both wrong. A nomrom is the opposite of a mormon.

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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Derwood » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:09 pm

Do you know Oakland is ten games over .500? Go ahead, look it up
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Banedon » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:15 pm

Derwood wrote:Do you know Oakland is ten games over .500? Go ahead, look it up


No, but I'm completely unaware of much about the AL, and I'm barely aware of happenings outside of the division.
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Postby big ball chunky time » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:46 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:
sneakypower wrote:can anyone guess the current NL leader in SLG

hint
Spoiler: show
and it's not even close

It has to be either Babe Aguilar or Babe Muncy, right?


my guess was suarez
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Rob » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:11 pm

Ding Dong Johnson wrote:
Rob wrote:
jersey cubs fan wrote:an atheist isn't the opposite of mormon, a bachelor is the opposite of mormon. Because a mormon marries lots of ladies and a bachelor marries none.


You're both wrong. A nomrom is the opposite of a mormon.

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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby bddavidson » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:28 pm

Sorry if this is a dumb question but I was thinking about walk off walks today and was wondering about what, if anything, has to happen to make the game officially over.

Does the batter have to touch first base?
Does the runner on third have to touch home base?

If the batter were to be mobbed by his teammates in celebration before he reaches first could he be considered to have been running outside the base paths and therefore out?
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:30 pm

bddavidson wrote:Sorry if this is a dumb question but I was thinking about walk off walks today and was wondering about what, if anything, has to happen to make the game officially over.

Does the batter have to touch first base?
Does the runner on third have to touch home base?

If the batter were to start to be mobbed by his teammates before he reaches first could he be considered to have been running outside the base paths and therefore out?


I don't have the legalese answer, but I assume that all that needs to happen is for the runner to cross the plate. The game ends the moment that happens, and I'm struggling to think of a way where the person who took a walk could be ruled out before that happens. And even then that would only matter if there were two outs.
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Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:32 pm

I believe that all of the runners that could be gotten out via force outs need to reach their respective bases, and the winning run needs to touch the plate.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby bddavidson » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:36 pm

I guess the follow up would be what happens if the runner on third say joins his teammates at the mound celebrating before he touches home (assuming two outs)?
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby sneakypower » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:37 pm

Cubswin11 wrote:
sneakypower wrote:can anyone guess the current NL leader in SLG

hint
Spoiler: show
and it's not even close

It has to be either Babe Aguilar or Babe Muncy, right?

correct; more HR than Harper, too

Indians DFA'd him and gave Edwin Encarnacion $65M (possibly in reverse order), to be barely replacement level this year- and they're a very smart team! Stearns seems like he might be one of the best in the game
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Transmogrified Tiger » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:38 pm

bddavidson wrote:I guess the follow up would be what happens if the runner on third say joins his teammates at the mound celebrating before he touches home (assuming two outs)?


I am not sure. The only remotely plausible circumstance I can think of for that is if the pitcher starts cussing out the hitter on ball 4 and incites a brawl.
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:51 pm

I'm struggling to find the rule, but I believe the batter has to reach first and runner has to cross the plate. I do believe umps can call the batter out if he does not reach first, but that would only potentially matter with 2 outs
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby Ding Dong Johnson » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:53 pm

rule 5.08(b)
Rule 5.08(b) Comment: An exception will be if fans rush onto the field and physically prevent the runner from touching home plate or the batter from touching first base. In such cases, the umpires shall award the runner the base because of the obstruction by the fans.


http://mlb.mlb.com/documents/0/8/0/2682 ... _Rules.pdf
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Re: General Baseball Chit-Chat Thread

Postby mul21 » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:55 pm

JudasIscariotTheBird wrote:I believe that all of the runners that could be gotten out via force outs need to reach their respective bases, and the winning run needs to touch the plate.


There are no force outs available in a walk situation, so this can't be right.
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